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 Rotgut wrote:
Getting back on topic so the thread isnt locked.

Go Gotrex and Felix!

It will be 2 armies that are scheduled to be majorly updated in 2014 I know that VC and dwarfs are both planned for this period and the starter usually coincides or kick starts one of the armies in the box. It won't be VC and Dwarfs but it could very well be one of them. Maby Brets and VC?


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 kenshin620 wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:


Straight up daemons might freak out parents that have small children. Undead would just have a weird mechanic but overall i don't think they're too horrifying in most aspects to small children. The black coach, black knights/hexwraiths and the coven throne/mortis engine models might freak them out a little but it's much better than straight up daemons.

Doesnt seem to bother the 40k crowd about "freakyness"

For crying out loud the sword of the chaos lord just screams "I will devour the souls of your loved ones!"

Spoiler:

Not for little children? WHAT!? The frickin commissar had his coat forcefully sewn into his flesh by massive daemon marines a huge star of chaos burned onto his chest with a metal rod. The hell brute is a man shoved into a machine to be haunted by daemon screams until it turned him into a blood soaked violent lunatic. I don't think you can comment on GW making this "child suitable"...

Since when are VC due to be updated in 2014? They got an update in 2012 and I haven't seen any rumors to that effect.

I can't imagine it. I think they'll get all the armies up to 8th at least. I mean Dwarf rules seem like a real mess compared to new army books.

I'm really scared that they'll take away all that awesome customizability from the Dwarves.

No no no you misunderstand me vampire counts aren't meant to receive a major update, I've heard rumours that 2014 will hopefully see a new zombie kit and new vampire model in finecast.

BaconUprising wrote:
No no no you misunderstand me vampire counts aren't meant to receive a major update, I've heard rumours that 2014 will hopefully see a new zombie kit and new vampire model in finecast.

No one wants another finecast vampire though. They want a multipart plastic kit like all the cool kids get.

Vampires already have a crap ton of monopose characters.

Oh. Where did you hear that? I can believe the zombie kit but not the finecast vamp. Thought they were moving away from finecast now.

Only repeating what I heard...

 Tangent wrote:
Oh. Where did you hear that? I can believe the zombie kit but not the finecast vamp. Thought they were moving away from finecast now.

Really? Why would they be moving from finecast? Just curious from a business perspective.

BaconUprising wrote:
Only repeating what I heard...

I know - I asked where you heard.

@Duke - Cuz it sucks? Plus all the kits that could've been finecast but aren't.

Empire v Chaos. Traditional and a pretty decent choice to boot.

I haven't heard anything about them gravitating away from finecast but I agree it utterly sucks! Opening the archaon box and finding his sword is bent and flimsy and his torso has air bubbles in it is quite gutting.

BaconUprising wrote:
I haven't heard anything about them gravitating away from finecast but I agree it utterly sucks! Opening the archaon box and finding his sword is bent and flimsy and his torso has air bubbles in it is quite gutting.

The long standing "rumor" that has been more or less confirmed by a few design team members is that Finecast is a stop gap until all lines can be made 100% plastic. I think we are still a few years away from that, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way it goes(I'd prefer it).

Supposedly High Elves are getting a plastic Teclis and another mage instead of Finecast releases.

The cost of finecast is only low in the short term. Molds constantly have to be remade, and employees have to manually do the production. With plastic injection, once the mold is paid off the short term cost evaporates and you are left with an extremely low overhead for that item(basically the cost of plastic and packaging). Injection molds last for years on end before needing to be retooled, and they can be run 24/7 with no real labor(someone to monitor the machine to make sure it doesn't blow up, but that's about it).

Proof that Finecast is not meant to be a permanent solution can be evidenced by most of those products becoming direct order only. They now have to QC every single cast that gets packaged, adding to the overhead on those items.

It's not a viable product for long term production. It may be fine for a few select items like bits backs and SC's, but for units and vehicles it's a terrible method.

 Aerethan wrote:
The long standing "rumor" that has been more or less confirmed by a few design team members is that Finecast is a stop gap until all lines can be made 100% plastic. I think we are still a few years away from that, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's the way it goes(I'd prefer it).

I thought I had heard that it was sorta confirmed by the design team but I couldn't remember where exactly so I didn't want to mention it. But now that you have, it's band wagon time!