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People asking why am I not playing tyranids or eldar. Somehow every male player thinks that I should either play one or the other.

The next close one is people being late for games. If I take a bus , then a train and can be on time, then someone who lives on the same street as the shop we play in, should be able to do it too.

Makumba wrote:
People asking why am I not playing tyranids or eldar. Somehow every male player thinks that I should either play one or the other.

The next close one is people being late for games. If I take a bus , then a train and can be on time, then someone who lives on the same street as the shop we play in, should be able to do it too.

So you're a woman? Eh, changes nothing.

But Tyranids don't exactly strike me as the most feminine of armies. Or any gender really given that they're a sexless swarm of repto-bugs.

I'd have expected them to think you ought to play the Sisters, and of course; both Eldar varieties.

In all honesty, the only thing that ever made me think "I wish this person would go away" is when a guy picked up my codex and started flipping through it after he asked and I said no. (We were using it to mark the edge of our kill-team game board, I normally would have let him)

 Kain wrote:

Makumba wrote:
People asking why am I not playing tyranids or eldar. Somehow every male player thinks that I should either play one or the other.

The next close one is people being late for games. If I take a bus , then a train and can be on time, then someone who lives on the same street as the shop we play in, should be able to do it too.

So you're a woman? Eh, changes nothing.

But Tyranids don't exactly strike me as the most feminine of armies. Or any gender really given that they're a sexless swarm of repto-bugs.

I'd have expected them to think you ought to play the Sisters, and of course; both Eldar varieties.

'nids were kind of cute back in the early years, from what I've seen of some of the models. Have you ever seen a Zoat?

They're certainly not now, and being cute wouldn't be why I play them.

As much as I enjoy occasional random off-topic conversation (usually 40k related) it bugs me when it happens in a group and we're trying to play a big game. Ok, there's 5 of us at the table, we've got 6k points going around respectively, and it's already taking us an hour to go through a turn. We're looking up rules we haven't used because they're weird situations, some of are relatively new/coming back to the game, and some of us are playing with units we haven't used before. Can we not go into random conversation for another 10 minutes?


Also, if you've come into the shop more 3 times, with your army, how hard is it to buy a freaking dice cube? Hey, I forgot my dice, a pen, or my book is one thing, but you keep coming back without dice? How hard is it to buy freaking dice?

I love battlescribe on my phone for making quick lists for when somebody wants to play a game, but man, I wish I could print it out :(

I can't stand Gibbling (chess term) for that guy who walks up to your table and gives advice to you or your opponent. Drives me nuts. "Oh no don't move there you going to be with-in charge range of his Nobz" Or the guy who wants to see your list before he makes his own so he can tailor his army..

I usually write up a list on the spot, unless the game is planned in advance. Not for any "tactical" reasons, only because I bring multiple armies and don't know what I'm going to play. Instead of bringing a 500, 750, 1000, etc point list for every army, I ask my opponent if he has a preference as to what to play against (no point having lists for Eldar, if they want to try going against Nids) and how many points. The closest thing to an advantage I garner from this is I usually know what race I'm going up against, but not the specifics.

Now if a game is planned in advance (such as for our Veterans Nights) then I have a list ready to go before I leave the house.

 Kain wrote:

Makumba wrote:
People asking why am I not playing tyranids or eldar. Somehow every male player thinks that I should either play one or the other.

The next close one is people being late for games. If I take a bus , then a train and can be on time, then someone who lives on the same street as the shop we play in, should be able to do it too.

So you're a woman? Eh, changes nothing.

But Tyranids don't exactly strike me as the most feminine of armies. Or any gender really given that they're a sexless swarm of repto-bugs.

I'd have expected them to think you ought to play the Sisters, and of course; both Eldar varieties.

Hey, I play Chaos Marines.
I feel like I am the only one on the planet doing so without being as male as the models.

 BrotherHaraldus wrote:

 Kain wrote:

Makumba wrote:
People asking why am I not playing tyranids or eldar. Somehow every male player thinks that I should either play one or the other.

The next close one is people being late for games. If I take a bus , then a train and can be on time, then someone who lives on the same street as the shop we play in, should be able to do it too.

So you're a woman? Eh, changes nothing.

But Tyranids don't exactly strike me as the most feminine of armies. Or any gender really given that they're a sexless swarm of repto-bugs.

I'd have expected them to think you ought to play the Sisters, and of course; both Eldar varieties.

Hey, I play Chaos Marines.
I feel like I am the only one on the planet doing so without being as male as the models.

My wife plays some CSMs as well.

So I've found the genders of two Dakkaites in one day; impressive.

At my flgs we have a power gamer type who runs a Farsight enclaves list. If the tide starts turning against him he starts bogging the game down horribly. He wants to see every die roll, starts double checking every rule he could abuse, or thinks I am abusing. Worst of all I'll make a move with a crone or flyrant and he will challenge the distance I moved after I have moved the model. This essentially give him free reign to make me move the model back as far as he wants. I have mitigated the last bit to an extent by telling him I didn't move the full 24" (even if I did, but I'm not cheating and he is trying to) so it can't have been to far. I have also noticed he snatches his dice up very quickly on critical rolls. Which leads me to believe he is cheating. I trust other people to be honest in these games and I even have a tray I roll my dice in and I will place it in front of my opponent when rolling. So I find it suspicious when the dice are back in his hand before I could have had the chance to look.

Imnewherewheresthebathroom wrote:
At my flgs we have a power gamer type who runs a Farsight enclaves list. If the tide starts turning against him he starts bogging the game down horribly. He wants to see every die roll, starts double checking every rule he could abuse, or thinks I am abusing. Worst of all I'll make a move with a crone or flyrant and he will challenge the distance I moved after I have moved the model. This essentially give him free reign to make me move the model back as far as he wants. I have mitigated the last bit to an extent by telling him I didn't move the full 24" (even if I did, but I'm not cheating and he is trying to) so it can't have been to far. I have also noticed he snatches his dice up very quickly on critical rolls. Which leads me to believe he is cheating. I trust other people to be honest in these games and I even have a tray I roll my dice in and I will place it in front of my opponent when rolling. So I find it suspicious when the dice are back in his hand before I could have had the chance to look.

That's some A-grade TFG behavior right there.

Imnewherewheresthebathroom wrote:
At my flgs we have a power gamer type who runs a Farsight enclaves list. If the tide starts turning against him he starts bogging the game down horribly. He wants to see every die roll, starts double checking every rule he could abuse, or thinks I am abusing. Worst of all I'll make a move with a crone or flyrant and he will challenge the distance I moved after I have moved the model. This essentially give him free reign to make me move the model back as far as he wants. I have mitigated the last bit to an extent by telling him I didn't move the full 24" (even if I did, but I'm not cheating and he is trying to) so it can't have been to far. I have also noticed he snatches his dice up very quickly on critical rolls. Which leads me to believe he is cheating. I trust other people to be honest in these games and I even have a tray I roll my dice in and I will place it in front of my opponent when rolling. So I find it suspicious when the dice are back in his hand before I could have had the chance to look.

Yeah, dice shennanigans shouldn't be tolerated at all. I have seen people roll dice intentionally into terrain to try and get smelly c. If its what they want, fine, if not, "Oh, that's smelly c...reroll!" Dropping dice 10 cms from the table in hope that it won't roll.

These are my real pet peeves. Fortunately, these issues are almost always cleared up if you call the player out on them directly. As in, "Either show me those dice rolls, or reroll them all."

Yes, seeing someone look down in their hand,
poke the one die around,
roll it straight down "just so".
This is called "natural rolling" and people seem to think it is not cheating just makes them VERY lucky.
I have dice towers, I say use them.
Or at the very least roll lots of dice with one different colored one to ensure no dice cheating.

The grabbing of miniatures without asking for permission is a top problem. Funny how in my experience at least half the time those that do not ask break something, say nothing, set it down and walk away.

I have been reading this thread and I have seen a lot of good information on what not to do.What would you recommend for the new guy. As a disclaimer I don't smoke I bathe regularly and brush my teeth on a consistent basis . I feel I am a gracious winner and looser. The game is supposed to be fun after all. I have been playing some games at home with my son to get a feel for the game I have yet to play a game at the local game shop. I want to make the right impression. I have a small Tau army and some Space marines and my own codex's so it looks like I am starting in the right direction anyway. I think my stuff will be painted pretty fairly I won't make the cover of the next White Dwarf but it is more then just primer. Like most things I suppose you get out of it what you put in it.

 mredzadventure wrote:
I have a Tau army

Well, there's your problem.

Other than that, as long as you're conscious of how others perceive you, you'll be fine.

 mredzadventure wrote:
I have been reading this thread and I have seen a lot of good information on what not to do.What would you recommend for the new guy. As a disclaimer I don't smoke I bathe regularly and brush my teeth on a consistent basis . I feel I am a gracious winner and looser. The game is supposed to be fun after all. I have been playing some games at home with my son to get a feel for the game I have yet to play a game at the local game shop. I want to make the right impression. I have a small Tau army and some Space marines and my own codex's so it looks like I am starting in the right direction anyway. I think my stuff will be painted pretty fairly I won't make the cover of the next White Dwarf but it is more then just primer. Like most things I suppose you get out of it what you put in it.

When you've made a dice roll, leave the successful rolls where they are and pick out the fails. People hate it when you do the opposite

There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

Not many and it tends to be suspect as it's easier to cheat that way.

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

Not many and it tends to be suspect as it's easier to cheat that way.

This is a problem? This is all we do in my local.

This is like the time I found out some people wipe sitting down.

I do it either way as I do a quick scan of the dice and judge whether more have failed or succeeded and then I remove the smaller amount (more successes? remove fails, more fails? remove successes) I've never been ridiculed for doing it that way (though that could be because of the few seconds I leave them there before removal)

 Sheokronath wrote:


This is like the time I found out some people wipe sitting down.

Wait, some people wipe standing up?

I have so many questions, I don't know where to begin.

Hoverers. If it isn't your game, NO table talk. Jerkface!

Bring your FAQ and rule book.

Chicks asking me for my phone number mid-game. Ladies, I'm taken. Too bad!

People who pick up successes first when picking up dice after results are rolled are literal monsters. I hate that so much.

Oh also, I hate people calling things gay, and saying the word homophobic slur about things. I've called more than a few people out on it and it always creates this absolute horrific look on their face that I'd tell them to not use those words in my presence.

I'll relate my experience of going into a FLGS for the first time in a while. So I am perusing the new stuff as I hadn't seen any 40k models in a while and the salesperson comes up and we start talking about armies etc.. I said I was leaning towards Chaos and Necrons. I ask about Dark Eldar as I used to play that army. So he goes on this huge rant about how "gay" and refers to them in a derogatory terms. It's like seriously, the first time I go into a store in like 10 years and that happens.

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

makes rolling faster , because you can roll them again without needing to pick dice of proper color for normal weapons , hvy , special etc.

It is like always rolling 3 or 4 dice in warmachine at first people think that your boosting or cheating , but it is done to save time for a separate roll on spiral or grid chart.

Playing against very young opponents. I've done my share of demo games at a GW store in the past and I find it's just frustrating as they get interested in other things, walk off, etc. More so when you know that other folks want to use the tables. I just feel like it's not the right setting to teach such a game to new young players.

Showing up to tournaments and getting paired with the "easy win" for the first third to half of the tournament. I show up to them for harder games against savvy generals. It's not really fun for me or my opponent if it's a one sided match in the least. I had a guy concede 1.5 turns into the game at my last tournament. :/

Not knowing basic rules at a tournament (BRB or Codex). When someone who doesn't play your army knows your army better than you, why are you there?

I think the most frustrating thing I have ever had happen was in 5E and I was in a competitive game against a Tau player. I had him backed to his board edge and was lined up to assault him into oblivion and suddenly "Oh my, look at the time, gotta run!" All while slow playing me to death. It took 2 hours to get to top of turn 3. D:

Thankfully i've not experienced dice-rolling shenanigans in my local scene.

We have a pretty good bunch of guys down at my local club. Most are social gamers, who all know eachother, enjoy some banter and bring along friendly 'themed' lists most nights (unless cheese has been prior discussed).

Then we had an Eldar/DE player show up for a couple of months, always looking for pick-up games with his stompiest, non-FOC complying, fluff breaking, deathstar abomination,
(Eldrad, Asurmen, Karandras and Vect in a squad of dire avengers w/ Exarch). Aside from the obvious issues with that, he continued to make, break and change rules as he liked, and would do the same every week, making the same 'mistakes'. He stopped showing up after a while, and this is the first i've thought about him since. He won't be missed.

mredzadventure - I like to think there's a heirarcy of priorities in playing 40k in a social setting;

1. Respect your opponent
2. Have fun
3. Follow the rulebook
4. Play to win

Ie, Don't have fun if you can't respect your opponent. Have fun over following the rulebook, it's more important you enjoy your game than get everything perfect. Don't break the rules to win your games.

In tournament play, following the rules is #1

Dear people who let rip farts after clearly indulging a high sulphur diet.

Frak you, go outside or to the bathroom and don't try to pass around the blame. No seriously, that is disgusting. Same goes for the people who just burp whenever, wherever.

From, Kain.

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

I used to do that when I played orks. Since the hits usually outnumbered the misses by a large margin. Of course I always got my opponents consent first and made sure he saw the results before I started picking up dice.

I have made people re-roll critical rolls before when they have picked up the dice before I could see them. Even going so far as to bring a judge over on 2 occasions. Keeping in mind that I was actively watching them roll and they still managed to roll out of my line of sight and pick them up again before I could move to see them....

 gardeth wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

I used to do that when I played orks. Since the hits usually outnumbered the misses by a large margin. Of course I always got my opponents consent first and made sure he saw the results before I started picking up dice.

I have made people re-roll critical rolls before when they have picked up the dice before I could see them. Even going so far as to bring a judge over on 2 occasions. Keeping in mind that I was actively watching them roll and they still managed to roll out of my line of sight and pick them up again before I could move to see them....

I just usually apply what I call the 'one-second rule', meaning to wait a full second to let my opponent see the rolls before picking up whatever I need to pick up the least of.

Brother Michael wrote:

 gardeth wrote:

 Ailaros wrote:
There are people who pick out successes?

Wierd.

I used to do that when I played orks. Since the hits usually outnumbered the misses by a large margin. Of course I always got my opponents consent first and made sure he saw the results before I started picking up dice.

As an ork player, I can confirm that this saves a ton of time.

As for pet peeves, I don't really have any, aside from the obvious B.O and waac player. I know that I can be a sore loser when it comes to 40k, and i can be annoying by not paying attention at time. (Not on a smartphone as I don't own one, but I often zone out perusing my codex)

My biggest peeve is people who don't tell you what units are equipped with when the unit does not comply with WYSIWYG. One example I can think of is drop-podding Sternguards close to a Riptide, and the guy proceeds to then tell me that it has the Interceptor upgrade. Stuff like that really annoys me

My second biggest one, as someone who enjoys playing with the Heresy rules, is people saying 'I refuse to play against you because forge world is OP. Now excuse me whilst I take out my five Wave Serpents and Seerstar...'