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True. Mostly it's funny as an implementation of it would be yet another thing that GW supposedly left in history, but dredges up again in a quest to change something with each edition as a smokescreen for not polishing other things that already exist. It would be labelled as an "innovation to the Force Org system".

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I'm curious to see what kinds of lists people would assemble.

Let's assume that you need 25% min of troops and max 25% of the rest. Let'sfurther assume that the FOC is tossed out beyond this.

Finally, let's say 1500 points. That means at least 375 pts in Troops, no more than 375 in any other category.

What does *your* list look like under those conditions?
   
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Wakshaani wrote:
I'm curious to see what kinds of lists people would assemble.

Let's assume that you need 25% min of troops and max 25% of the rest. Let'sfurther assume that the FOC is tossed out beyond this.

Finally, let's say 1500 points. That means at least 375 pts in Troops, no more than 375 in any other category.

What does *your* list look like under those conditions?

Largely the same actually. 3 Exorcists is exactly 375 (with no upgrades) and I usually take at least 3 squads of Sisters so not much would need to change in my army.
   
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What about linking the other slots to Troops? One HS for a Troop for example? One HQ per two Troops.

Dedicated Transport counts as that Troop's 'support' unit.

Some units get extra rules. Eldar Jetbikes - "May only be supported by Fast Attack", Chaos Cultist - "May not provide a Support unit" etc.
   
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Wakshaani wrote:
I'm curious to see what kinds of lists people would assemble.

Let's assume that you need 25% min of troops and max 25% of the rest. Let'sfurther assume that the FOC is tossed out beyond this.

Finally, let's say 1500 points. That means at least 375 pts in Troops, no more than 375 in any other category.

What does *your* list look like under those conditions?


Guard would be impossible to build , more then 25% are in HQ/Heavy support . Fast attack would be ok , if only 2 vendettas were taken .
   
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Makumba wrote:
Wakshaani wrote:
I'm curious to see what kinds of lists people would assemble.

Let's assume that you need 25% min of troops and max 25% of the rest. Let'sfurther assume that the FOC is tossed out beyond this.

Finally, let's say 1500 points. That means at least 375 pts in Troops, no more than 375 in any other category.

What does *your* list look like under those conditions?


Guard would be impossible to build , more then 25% are in HQ/Heavy support . Fast attack would be ok , if only 2 vendettas were taken .


In the old codex my HQ was rarely above 200 points at 1500. 375 is plenty. It would prevent taking 6 leman russ in your HQ, which is exactly the point. The HS section could be a problem though.

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pask+LR +coteaz and your already almost passed the HQ limit and you still need a senior officer or yarik for the no cover order.
And if someone takes knight main , the same happens. Senchel +coteaz+senior officer bring you over 25%.

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Makumba wrote:
pask+LR +coteaz and your already almost passed the HQ limit and you still need a senior officer or yarik for the no cover order

Then do not bring both Pask + Coteaz. Oh, but wait, not including two completely unrelated special character in your army list would be very unfluffy ! Every IG army ever needs to be lead by that specific Inquisitor !
I think Coteaz not being always included by default is a feature rather than a bug of this system.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Makumba wrote:
pask+LR +coteaz and your already almost passed the HQ limit and you still need a senior officer or yarik for the no cover order

Then do not bring both Pask + Coteaz. Oh, but wait, not including two completely unrelated special character in your army list would be very unfluffy ! Every IG army ever needs to be lead by that specific Inquisitor !
I think Coteaz not being always included by default is a feature rather than a bug of this system.


Exactly my thoughts!

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GorillaWarfare wrote:
Makumba wrote:
Wakshaani wrote:
I'm curious to see what kinds of lists people would assemble.

Let's assume that you need 25% min of troops and max 25% of the rest. Let'sfurther assume that the FOC is tossed out beyond this.

Finally, let's say 1500 points. That means at least 375 pts in Troops, no more than 375 in any other category.

What does *your* list look like under those conditions?


Guard would be impossible to build , more then 25% are in HQ/Heavy support . Fast attack would be ok , if only 2 vendettas were taken .


In the old codex my HQ was rarely above 200 points at 1500. 375 is plenty. It would prevent taking 6 leman russ in your HQ, which is exactly the point. The HS section could be a problem though.

I think IG will need exceptions or a different % split. Now that tanks are in HQ, 25% is probably a bit small. A 3 tank HQ squadron STARTS at 390pts (for bare Eradicators).

If instead of elites/HS/FA we went with a core/special/rare system, IG could have a lot of their tanks in "special" instead.

Alternatively just give them a different % split, that's often the way it's been in previous editions of WHFB.
   
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I think a % based system would inevitably piss all of you off. But it would balance the game if done right.

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 Njal Stormpuppy wrote:
I think a % based system would inevitably piss all of you off. But it would balance the game if done right.

I'd say a percentage system like WFB where it also limits you in certain slots with a limit on what you can take in there depending on the points level would do it.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Njal Stormpuppy wrote:
I think a % based system would inevitably piss all of you off. But it would balance the game if done right.

I'd say a percentage system like WFB where it also limits you in certain slots with a limit on what you can take in there depending on the points level would do it.


Yup, just like that. It would allow flexibility and balance

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