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 Kirasu wrote:

 Steve steveson wrote:

 Kirasu wrote:
I gotta wonder if those supporting the overpriced GW tools have actually used *other* tools by different companies?

GW tools have been serviceable but there is absolutely no reason to buy them over better high quality tools unless you enjoy wasting money (Sorta how I feel about those who buy models directly from the GW store).

Yes I have. They are plenty good enough. They are more expensive but I would argue about getting better quality. Most tools don't have rubber padding. That's what I got the drill. I got the saw because it works out cheaper than buying saw, handle and driving to a hobby shop when GW is in town. Same with buying models from GW. Not many B&M stores in the UK do discount and unless you are buying a reasonable size order postage destroys the discount.

I suppose I should preface my statements with "In the united states" because we an incredible amount of choices and GW has very little impact in where we can shop.

I think Australia is much the same, not as much range as the US, but still plenty of stores where you can get similar but better quality tools than GW sells at lower prices.

On the rubber handle thing: It can be nice, but I actually own both a new GW pin vice and an old GW pin vice from before they had the rubber handle. The old one is heaps better, the collet holds the drills better and is easier to tighten, and as you use it, the drill is less likely to get stuck and start spinning in the collet or inadvertently loosen or slip. It also feels much more substantial.

The rubber handled pin vice sits in my draw doing nothing because it's simply not as well made.

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
We need to wait and see exactly what the new tool set has in it before making any firm judgements

no guarantee it will be the old tools we all love/hate/couldn't care less about

if they really have gone all out for quality they might be decent enough for the price (although it's one I wouldn't personally pay except for a really high quality file)

Maybe they are just covered with skulls

 Blacksails wrote:
Knife is overpowered.

EXAULTED HEHEH

 Kroothawk wrote:
I can confirm the following Euro prices:
Knife 20€ (was 12.50 €)
Drill 22 € (was 13 €)
Clippers 24 € (was 12.50 €)
File Set 15 €
Sculpting Tool Set 20 €
Flash Remove Tools 13 € (was 10.50 €)
Tool Set 117 €

GW again went for the traditional doubling of prices for comparable new products.

I use this, best quality blades I've ever used and costs about half
http://www.olfa.com/ArtKnivesDetail.aspx?C=6&Id=95
WTH GW? Comparing (and buying) miniatures is harder because subjetivity plays a good part of how we feel about price but tools is pure utility, there are better known brands than GW's tools at cheaper prices...
Little Timmy might not realice how overpriced a cutter is but I'm sure Timmy's dad does.

M.

22Euro? really?
Even professional stuff is cheaper
http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70089999

Those prices are...steep to put it lightly. I got a pair of side cutters for jewelry in the hobby section of wal-mart for $5, and they cut quite well enough for me. GW's new prices make me wonder if I'm not over-valuing their model line as well. $30 for a pair of tiny side cutters? I can get American-made tools for cheaper.

If the GW blog does not take the opportunity to call the release "April Tools Day" I will be displeased.

This looks like a nice tool set http://www.micromark.com/ship-modelers-tool-set,7768.html

I thought GW had given up on files as they took too long to degrade, and therefore made less cash...hence why they moved to re-branded emery boards.


You know the sad thing? I bought a pack. *Facepalm*

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
If the GW blog does not take the opportunity to call the release "April Tools Day" I will be displeased.

I laughed at that. And now I'll be disappointed too.


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 LazzurusMan wrote:
I thought GW had given up on files as they took too long to degrade, and therefore made less cash...hence why they moved to re-branded emery boards.


You know the sad thing? I bought a pack. *Facepalm*

Emery boards were basically only for fixing the Finecast models. The old files were mostly for use on metal, but since they were phasing that out ("were" meaning they never finished) they discontinued them because demand wouldn't be as high anymore.

Okay, I have seen the new tools in WD.
They are now in stylish cardboard boxes to underline their premium price.
It's two files, both pointed, one side flat the other round.
Sculpting tools are three, two metal and one plastic.
Knife, drill, cutter and flash remover are steel with aluminium handles, aluminium is tin bits coloured. Looks not too bad (no skulls).
Knife is now retractable design with 5 identical blades.
Drill looks similar to before, but with those metal handles, 6 drills.
Cutter has longer handles than before, handles in skeleton design with said tin bitz colour. Jaws overlap a bit like with scissors.
Complete toolset is limited to 1000 globally, so ...

Not saying that they are worth that much money, but there certainly will be some people buying this. Not me though.

For a few seconds there I thought GW corporate was getting their own codex.

I've never been a fan of retractable knives, I like to have the blade nice and firmly in the handle. My favourite knives are actually the Testors ones where you have a scalpel blade embedded firmly in a plastic handle, they're just a bit frustrating when you snap off a tip and have to buy a whole new knife, not terrible expensive though so you can buy them in bulk.

A limited edition toolset? Are people really going to snap them up?

Also putting tools into cardboard boxes just strikes me as either (a) a waste of packing material and (b) a way to hide exactly what you're getting.

I don't think I've ever seen tools in a carboard box unless they come with a case, and own a lot of tools.

I actually laughed out loud at these. More than happy with my DIY shop tools.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I've never been a fan of retractable knives, I like to have the blade nice and firmly in the handle.

Try the Olfa knives. Not even a tiny bit of wiggle. I like the rubber coated one, but I also have a few of these for working on my fish pond and they're both really great, and the blades both interchangeable, rustproof, and are fairly cheap.

Hooo boy. I wonder if someone was dropped of the table as a baby. I got a complete citadel toolkit as a bonus on an ebay auction I won. the little hobby drill is kinda nice, I'd give say 10€ for that one. But everything else?
- The vice is just horrible. It can't be firmly attached to the table and the suction grip doesn't work on most surfaces.
- The Knife is pretty generic. Nothing, that can't be achieved by a disposable scalpel, cutter, or similar you get for less than 1€.
- The clipper, files and sculpting tool are bland and generic. You can use them, they do their job, but they aren't exactly sonic screwdrivers to begin with. Any clipper from an electronics store will do just as good, the files are standard issue and the sculptiong tool can be replaced easily with a lot of things out of a dentist's toolbox or other sculpting tools from a hobby shop. The case is nice to have I guess, if you use to paint at your FLGS and to store your tools at home, but for the later it takes up a lot of space and doesn't provide anything, an old shoebox wouldn't do.

The big question is will FW offer a resin version with differently shaped blades for 4x the cost? And will a new imperial armour books cover their stats? Or will they provide the '10,000 yeas earlier.... ' version made out of flint?

Whoever orders these, can you message me? I need to get rid of a few bridges ASAP.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
I've never been a fan of retractable knives, I like to have the blade nice and firmly in the handle. My favourite knives are actually the Testors ones where you have a scalpel blade embedded firmly in a plastic handle, they're just a bit frustrating when you snap off a tip and have to buy a whole new knife, not terrible expensive though so you can buy them in bulk.

I have a couple of those knives. Blade in a cheap black plastic handle. And yes, the very tip snaps off easily, but I find that they tend to snap off just far enough that the knife tip becomes useful to drill out barrels.

New tools:

ChrisB wrote:
New tools:

People let this be a joke.......

PT Barnum was right, it seems.

ChrisB wrote:
New tools:

HA!

Looks like GW decided to let the Germans engineer their premium H.H.Hobby tools. Really going for that "sports car" approach.

They are a nice color though.

I'd only really want the mold line remover as I have 10+ year old other versions of the other tools, but I bet they'll only be available in a super expensive limited edition bundle...

 Blacksails wrote:
Knife is overpowered.

I giggled very hard at this.

A note on the mould line remover, it is excellent for making holes in thin plastic (i.e; tank armour) and it has no other functional use. You'd be silly to use it to remove mould lines.

Needs more skulls tbh, I'd pay at least a quid more per skull.

The new pin vices looks extremely painful to use.

Lucky I have the old one which is high-quality.

Best hobby tools in the world?

Can anyone challenge that claim?

Huh.

More like "Precision Re-Branded to be the Most Expensive Hobby Tools in The World"!