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Monday (7/28) revealed miniature @ http://dwarfkingsquest.com/



I'm hoping these dungeon cobble stone bases are included and not just tarted up advertising pieces by the Mantic painting team.

Interesting.

If they are, they replace mantic's typical integral mini-base, which is good.

We will have to ask during the campaign.

I wonder if those are 25mm or 20mm bases.

One snappily dressed skeleton too! I like.

That would be quite wonderful if the figures all end up having those textured bases.

Looks good! I hope the bases are included. We have heard that these are 'minimal assembly' miniatures - Practically any boardgame I can think of would already have the miniatures attached to the bases, so I'm guessing might well be the case with these too?

Does anyone know what route Mars Attacks took, might be some indication?

 Pacific wrote:
Looks good! I hope the bases are included. We have heard that these are 'minimal assembly' miniatures - Practically any boardgame I can think of would already have the miniatures attached to the bases, so I'm guessing might well be the case with these too?

Does anyone know what route Mars Attacks took, might be some indication?

Mars Attacks has integral bases the size of a regular 25mm circle base, fully expect the DKQ minis to have integral square bases the size of a normal 25mm square base as well

 tgmoore wrote:
Monday (7/28) revealed miniature @ http://dwarfkingsquest.com/



I'm hoping these dungeon cobble stone bases are included and not just tarted up advertising pieces by the Mantic painting team.

That's a good looking archer. I hope there are 2 different designs (I'd be delighted with 3, but would be amazed), then I'd get rid of my existing Mantic hybrids and start trying to make units out of them (hopefully we'll be able to add singles on the pledge manager).

Nice skeletal archer! I have a big mantic undead army already, but I'd be happy to add more to it. I hope those bases are 20mm, same as all the other undead though. And I hope they scale properly.

We'll see. I expect the material to be a little irritating. But I'm mostly interested in the game and tiles- I have enough fantasy miniatures to populate dungeons myself if I need to.

Base size is standard KOW manic supplied base for the unit type in KOW - Ronnie said multiple times/places these will fit in your KOW units easily.

Not hard to see how the KS could feature add ons like "20 skeleton archers" to get fantasy generic/KOW backers.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Base size is standard KOW manic supplied base for the unit type in KOW - Ronnie said multiple times/places these will fit in your KOW units easily.

Not hard to see how the KS could feature add ons like "20 skeleton archers" to get fantasy generic/KOW backers.

KoW plastic minis have a small circular base moulded as part of the miniature (which they can stand on their own, as in the Orginal DKH) that fits into a matching circular slot on larger 20mm or 25mm square bases. What that means is no premade cool cobblestone base. It would be a lot of work to saw each miniature off of its moulded on round base and mounting (pinning is probably best but you could get away with super gluring) on either a homemade or aftermarket cobblestone base.



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This play test photo with Ronnie Renton, ?, and Jake Thornton was posted on the Mantic Blog. If you go to the orginal link and zoom in to the left of Ronnie Renton's arm (blue shirt) you can clearly see a sprue that has what looks to me like dungeon floor tiles and arches.

http://manticblog.com/2014/07/29/drum-roll-please/

They're playing on card though, and have repeatedly ruled out plastic floor tiles

NTRabbit wrote:
They're playing on card though, and have repeatedly ruled out plastic floor tiles

Agreed and I'd prefer card too. But there is no stopping this hype train! Choo CHOO! I am not familiar with the Sci-Fi terrian sets maybe they are from that?

They are.

 tgmoore wrote:

This play test photo with Ronnie Renton, ?, and Jake Thornton was posted on the Mantic Blog. If you go to the orginal link and zoom in to the left of Ronnie Renton's arm (blue shirt) you can clearly see a sprue that has what looks to me like dungeon floor tiles and arches.

http://manticblog.com/2014/07/29/drum-roll-please/

That's just one of the Deadzone terrain sprues.

If mantic could make their deadzone/mars attacks terrain which all lay flat as dungeon floor opposed to walls, that would be awesome. I don't see why they would rule out plastic tiles when that is something they can actually do pretty well.

nkelsch wrote:
If mantic could make their deadzone/mars attacks terrain which all lay flat as dungeon floor opposed to walls, that would be awesome. I don't see why they would rule out plastic tiles when that is something they can actually do pretty well.

Because they tested it, and apparently couldn't get them to lay flat once the dungeon reached a decent dize

That's why they need to make mousepad tiles.
You explore more bits as you lay down the next tile-pad(s).
Characters with a map or magic aid will allow you to peek at the next two tile-pad and to select the one you prefer to use.

In that image all the components are either KOW or the old Dwarf game.

My guess is that the figures are on a square base that glues on top of the current bases. No reason at all why the base of the pre assembled figures has to be round and to fit in with KOW it just needs to be the right size - they could do the base moulded like a dungeon floor and any gaps can be filled easily by people. Alternately, given we know the EB for this will be extra limited models as opposed to pricing - I would expect this to be a backer number or time limited as opposed to preset and this would also stop the Mantic KS trend of pledging £1 and getting the same benefits as people who pledged the full amount months before....

Mouse mat tiles were covered at the Open Day by Ronnie, so unless they have a change of heart then they are still a no due to cost, weight, no double sided printing, don't join up well, printing quality due to material.

I am so ridiculously excited for this. Can't wait.

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Alternately, given we know the EB for this will be extra limited models as opposed to pricing - I would expect this to be a backer number or time limited as opposed to preset and this would also stop the Mantic KS trend of pledging £1 and getting the same benefits as people who pledged the full amount months before....

It's not. Confirmed by Stewart.

 Azazelx wrote:

 TwilightSparkles wrote:
Alternately, given we know the EB for this will be extra limited models as opposed to pricing - I would expect this to be a backer number or time limited as opposed to preset and this would also stop the Mantic KS trend of pledging £1 and getting the same benefits as people who pledged the full amount months before....

It's not. Confirmed by Stewart.

Do you have a link as even people on the mantic forums still seem to think its eb figures not price.... http://forum.manticblog.com/showthread.php?8693-Dungeon-Saga-Dwarf-King-s-Quest/page2

Posted on facebook on 25th July (sorry can't direct link)

Ben Stones Still planning on a bonus for backers within the first x days, as opposed to usual early bird system?
26 July at 01:46

Mantic Games Nope - normal early bird system
26 July at 02:11

I emailed Stewart last week and he told me direct. I posted it here somewhere as well.

I like the idea of Dwarf Kings Quest, but I'm realizing that it will take an impressive showing on Mantic's part to get me to back this, especially if the set spot buy in is $100.

After playing miniatures games for twenty years I have put together small collections of skeletons, zombies, dwarfs, orcs, etc. Even though these new skeletons look great, it would hurt the value for me if half the figures are undead.

As time has gone by I have come to have more specific desires for my new figures. Now I look for more unusual, or unique styled models. I backed the new SDE mostly because of the variety of plant monsters of which I currently have few. If DKQ is a generic fantasy starter game I will likely pas even though I'm sure it will do well.

Bases are 25mm, integral to the miniature so no gluing needed and they come textured.

It will be discounted Early Bird pledge level. It was mooted at the open day about including a figure for a weekend or something but it will be the standard amount of limited number, discounted pledge levels.


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Also, the painted wizard has been released...

 Black Nexus wrote:
Bases are 25mm, integral to the miniature so no gluing needed and they come textured.

It will be discounted Early Bird pledge level. It was mooted at the open day about including a figure for a weekend or something but it will be the standard amount of limited number, discounted pledge levels.


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Also, the painted wizard has been released...

If the bases are 25mm for everything then it will impact ease of things like the Undead being used in KoW armies.
Most infantry models in KoW (Orcs and some other infantry excepted) are on 20mm bases.

Would seem like an odd choice.

Odd for Kings of War, but not so odd for boardgame figures - 1 inch squares are pretty much the defacto standard for boardgame grids

I'd have thought the bases being slightly smaller than the grids for most minis would be good though.

Squares on the tile are 25x25mm. First and foremost the figures are designed for the game hence the base sizes.

Doesn't take much to trim them, anyway.