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 Skinnereal wrote:
Terrain is great for 3D printers. Layer-lines aren't a problem when the model is laid horizontally.
Also, detail is usually less than on a person or vehicle.
Buildings would go well. You can printed vents, air-con units, etc.
Hills and things though, scratch-build instead.


...and what if you print models horizontally either? Can it solve anything?

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I've had no hands-on with a printer, but I expect printing a model on its back could work.
Vertical lines might be less of an issue than the more obvious horizontal.

I was meaning that printing a hut from the ground up would look like it was built that way. People aren't, and look odd with bands around them.

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I'm indifferent enough towards GW that if my opponent showed up with unassembled plastic sprues covered in the blood stains of the redshirt he stabbed to steal them from, I'd probably just shrug and still play.

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 AtomicEngineer wrote:

But....isn't warhammer a hobby of patience? I thought the whole point was taking your time, building your force and painting them up to a good standard to play. Its not about speed, its not a race to the finish its the ride. Its waiting for the new release, getting it and taking your time to finish it. Having the ability to just sit and watch a computer print out a copy of an official product months in advance takes something away from the fun of going down to your local to pick up your new model.


That assertion raises a lot of questions. What about people who get armies off Ebay, or who get them commission painted? Heck, what about people who don't like painting, or who are good at it, but paint at a really slow pace? Or would people who paint really fast have to wait to properly appreciate their miniatures before putting them on the table?

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Ive been scratchbuilding for years, but ive recently got a £400 3d printer, so I thought Id see if it was possible to print a land raider


Its not perfect, bit its also possible to remove some of the lines using an acetone vapour bath.
It did also take 9 hours, but only cost a few quid in materials.

 
   
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Depends. Can I tell what it is and can I tell what all the weapons are? If yes, go for it. If no, come back when you're better at 3d printing.

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That depends. What 3d printed models are we talking about? Were they designed by the players? Did they just print several parts to get a unique look for their models? If so, sure, I wouldnt have a problem with it. But if it's a printed copy of somebody else's models (be it GW or somebody else's without their permission) then no. It's the same as recasting in my book, which I consider stealing. Me playing against them would mean I condone or willing to look away such behaviour, which I do not. So no, not at all.
   
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 montrano wrote:
Ive been scratchbuilding for years, but ive recently got a £400 3d printer, so I thought Id see if it was possible to print a land raider


Its not perfect, bit its also possible to remove some of the lines using an acetone vapour bath.
It did also take 9 hours, but only cost a few quid in materials.


More power to your elbow, that one looks quite smart.

Is the Marine just for scale or being intentionally run over?

   
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 montrano wrote:
Ive been scratchbuilding for years, but ive recently got a £400 3d printer, so I thought Id see if it was possible to print a land raider


Its not perfect, bit its also possible to remove some of the lines using an acetone vapour bath.
It did also take 9 hours, but only cost a few quid in materials.


I'm actually more interested in a better look at that Nurgley Minotaur looking thing in the background, or at least an ID?

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Is it to scale and WYSIWYG? Sure, no qualms.

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 Azreal13 wrote:
 montrano wrote:
Ive been scratchbuilding for years, but ive recently got a £400 3d printer, so I thought Id see if it was possible to print a land raider


Its not perfect, bit its also possible to remove some of the lines using an acetone vapour bath.
It did also take 9 hours, but only cost a few quid in materials.


I'm actually more interested in a better look at that Nurgley Minotaur looking thing in the background, or at least an ID?


I think the marine just happened to be on my desk at the time, but I spun him round to be run over.

The model in the background is the maxmini great plaguebringer
http://maxmini.eu/miniatures/greater-plaguebringer-miniature

 
   
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Ah, cool, thanks, it was good a I asked because it took me to the Maxmini site and reminded me of all the cool stuff they make!

Also, the fact you have a £60+ model in frame with a 3D printed Land Raider suggests you haven't printed the Land Raider just for finanical reasons, would that be fair to say?

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If there is a new unit out and I or someone else wants to try it I don't care if they use a piece of paper with the unit name on it stuck onto a base with a some idea of height etc. I've done this many times. I have a large model collection and it's all painted, but I play games, the modeling is an added dimension that is totally up to each player. 3D printed models are a great idea, I just hope it doesn't lead long term to them focusing profiteering on black library were they have complete control on the IP.

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As far as Im concerned, they can 3D print everything they wanna print. play it. No problem. As long as they look decent, who cares, EXCEPT GW?

This wouldnt even be a discussion if GW had been more far sighted and more market share oriented. But they arent. So i love their game, I wanna keep playing it and if someone needs to do that in order to play, so be it.

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 Jancoran wrote:
As far as Im concerned, they can 3D print everything they wanna print. play it. No problem. As long as they look decent, who cares, EXCEPT GW?

This wouldnt even be a discussion if GW had been more far sighted and more market share oriented. But they arent. So i love their game, I wanna keep playing it and if someone needs to do that in order to play, so be it.


Just wait until 3D becomes really commonplace. Once everyone and their neighbour starts throwing around custom models that aren't even copies of GW but stuff that looks similar enough for WYSWYG, they'll be asked quite a lot of questions why their 100g of plastics costs 50€ while you can get a kilogram of 3D print plastics for 12€.

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Oh it's of no concern now. the Pandoras box has been opened and GW has opened it personally.

So since they dont value market share like they should have, they must now contend with this. And Im fine with that. If they become nothing more than a publisher of rules, boy... That stock price is going to plummet. better get out now while you can.

BTW i am not a GW hater. I love their models, love their game and plan to play it for a rEALLY long time if i can. So I am more stating fact than being damning. They really have brought this on themselves.

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Can't agree more. With THESE rules, GW ain't gonna make a killing.
The setting is nice, but that allone will keep black library afloat, nothing else.

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Fine with me! GW is expensive, i can understand why people try to find cheaper solution!

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