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Anyone try Radium Jezail on their Dragoons?

LOL, I put one together with one before realizing I want them in my rangers instead. Relentless means you can still mve and fire it, which would make it ok but then, not being able to assault negates it in my eyes as you want to be the one assaulting.

Wait, what other unit can use the Radium Jezzail? I thought it was Dragoon-only. Or is the same bit used for the jezzail and something else?

Sorry. I got the arquebus and jezzail's names mixed up.

1,024 electro-lashes for blasphemy!

 SisterSydney wrote:
Wait, what other unit can use the Radium Jezzail? I thought it was Dragoon-only. Or is the same bit used for the jezzail and something else?

Right now, I'm only looking to use the skittarri as allies with troops for the fancy guns and crawlers for anti-ait help shooting.
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I'm thinking a couple of Vanguard sniper squads, a squad of three Onagers with a 1 Phospher, 2 Neutrons, all with extra Stubbers, and a solo Onager with Icarus Array and Manipulator, to fill out the points for an AdLance at 1850.

SJ

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
I'm thinking a couple of Vanguard sniper squads, a squad of three Onagers with a 1 Phospher, 2 Neutrons, all with extra Stubbers, and a solo Onager with Icarus Array and Manipulator, to fill out the points for an AdLance at 1850.

SJ

if you're going snipers pay the extra points and go with rangers for the added range to the basic weapons.

BrianDavion wrote:

 jeffersonian000 wrote:
I'm thinking a couple of Vanguard sniper squads, a squad of three Onagers with a 1 Phospher, 2 Neutrons, all with extra Stubbers, and a solo Onager with Icarus Array and Manipulator, to fill out the points for an AdLance at 1850.

SJ

if you're going snipers pay the extra points and go with rangers for the added range to the basic weapons.

Going with Vanguard is to save points.

SJ

But... you're saving two points a model at the cost of having 18" basic guns that will hardly ever be able to hit the same target as the arquebuses. Rangers start with 30" guns, they'll be able to all hit the arquebus target much of the time.

not to mention precision shots in and of themselves which can add to the sniper theme and effects.

From the few games I've seen of these guys thus far (haven't gotten to play against them yet), the army seems to be a little awkward.

In lower points games with smaller boards, they seem to do really very well and the Imperatives seem to flow rather well throughout the game where the Skitarii player is using their high BS straight away and then transitioning to the WS buffs as the game progresses.

The problem is that in larger games, really over 1000pts, the lack of transports or alternate deployment methods just makes the infantry too damn easy to kill, and the army ends up being reliant on spamming the heavy walkers as much as it can instead.

It feels like it was really primarily meant as an allied force or part of a larger codex that just got cut down to half size to make a release date without really being completed.

Havnt seen them in action, but that was my take on it reading through the codex. Lucky for me, thats exactly what I plan on using them for, adding fluffy/cool looking variety to my allies pool for my guard.

Yeah, as allies they appear like they'll be pretty solid and bring some useful abilities and unique look to the table. Just as they're own army they're really only like a third of a codex

axisofentropy wrote:
I'm convinced that Ruststalkers are the bee's knees IF you can protect them with an assault vehicle, even if that's a Land Raider. With haywire grenades, Fleshbane, and AP2 they're a threat to literally every unit (except those damn Necron wraiths.) And the Zealot mask is an obvious choice if your squad is larger than 5.

Tell me what I'm missing and why they're actually risky. Is it because they'll always be caught out in the open after ripping up units?

but they only get AP2 after the survive a round of combat. Any real combat unit is going to wipe the floor with them before they get to use their fancy AP2 weapons. Anything with powermauls can really screw with their day.

They get AP2 in the first round of combat as well, but only on 6s to Wound.

 Vaktathi wrote:
From the few games I've seen of these guys thus far (haven't gotten to play against them yet), the army seems to be a little awkward.

In lower points games with smaller boards, they seem to do really very well and the Imperatives seem to flow rather well throughout the game where the Skitarii player is using their high BS straight away and then transitioning to the WS buffs as the game progresses.

The problem is that in larger games, really over 1000pts, the lack of transports or alternate deployment methods just makes the infantry too damn easy to kill, and the army ends up being reliant on spamming the heavy walkers as much as it can instead.

It feels like it was really primarily meant as an allied force or part of a larger codex that just got cut down to half size to make a release date without really being completed.

Agreed here, a full ally cohort of skitarii typically ends up running me about 1000 points, which is 3 infantry squads, and 2 elites. Right now I really like the sound of allying with the Steel Host formation, as it can really bring the pain and be survivable with AV14, while the Skitarii can bring some versatility.

Aren't they one of the armies of the Imperium? If so then the core rulebook wraps them all up as battle bros. When you make mixed armies that are battle bros then they will share the all rule results as allied units like warlord traits and such. Allies of convenience will treat each other as seperate armies and for the sake of rule implementation their units still fall under the category of enemy as far application of various rules are concerned and not allied units and so won't share the benefits of the primary warlord. To me I think they might be another theme flavoured sub army for the Asra Militarium.

I kinda wish the Skitarii release was where we saw the appearance of Knights, as opposed to their release in their own, individual book. The seem to have a lot of synergy with the army and can shore the army up a bit when you're going up in points.

I've been contemplating a small, 1000pt army with a single knight and the rest of the points dedicated to rangers and walkers.

 Accolade wrote:
I kinda wish the Skitarii release was where we saw the appearance of Knights, as opposed to their release in their own, individual book. The seem to have a lot of synergy with the army and can shore the army up a bit when you're going up in points.

I've been contemplating a small, 1000pt army with a single knight and the rest of the points dedicated to rangers and walkers.

Both fluffwise and looking at the release, they are meant to be run together, with the Skitarii working as a small arms guard to the knight.

I like the cover, not shelled out for the rules yet.

The rumor, by the way, is that there will be Cult Mechanicus codex later this year. That would be very cool


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 Alex Kolodotschko wrote:
I like the cover, not shelled out for the rules yet.

ALWAYS judge a book by it's cover. And the ending. It's all that counts. Bwahahahaha!

The next month, even.