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2016/06/24 15:51:56
Subject: Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
MIni MIehm wrote: My friends, regardless of anything else, the pound is crashing.
For the love of God, buy Forgeworld.
How much can you save out of curiosity?
I'd also say that anybody who plans on taking advantage of this advice should do so quickly as the pound and other worldwide currencies will stabilise. The pound dropping after Brexit was expected, the Brexit itself was uncertain though. I was surprised when I woke up this morning, happily so as I voted out.
The GBP was down from about from USD1.50 to USD1.30 first thing this morning. It's recovered to about USD1.36 this afternoon. So your looking at a circa 20% saving over yesterday if you're in the US assuming the banks/credit card companies are passing on the same level of reduction.
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2016/06/25 01:32:21
Subject: Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
Kid_Kyoto wrote: A lot of the UK mini companies ahve been on facebook promoting this unexpected 'sale price' for US buyers.
I think I'll be hitting up Ramshackle and maybe Hasslefree for some long overdue orders this week
Not so funny if you live in the UK and want to buy outside.
The exchange rate drop is big when you look at it over the course of 1 week, but when you expand your horizon to the past 6 months it isn't a hell of a lot worse than it has been. The average over the past 6 months compared to the USD looks to be about 1.42, it's currently trading at 1.36, so it's currently only down 4.2% compared to that.
It just looks worse because the GBP had been recovering for the past few weeks, and with brexit it lost the ground it had been gaining.
If you're a UK business who relies on buying stuff from overseas, the much more gradual fall over the past 2 years has probably kicked you in the balls more than brexit has.
It's all just reactionary fear at this point, we'll have to see how things pan out over the next few months and years.
Macroeconomics is one of those fields where it can always tell you apparently why something happened, but is pretty bad at predicting the future.
MIni MIehm wrote: My friends, regardless of anything else, the pound is crashing.
For the love of God, buy Forgeworld.
How much can you save out of curiosity? I'd also say that anybody who plans on taking advantage of this advice should do so quickly as the pound and other worldwide currencies will stabilise. The pound dropping after Brexit was expected, the Brexit itself was uncertain though. I was surprised when I woke up this morning, happily so as I voted out.
The GBP was down from about from USD1.50 to USD1.30 first thing this morning. It's recovered to about USD1.36 this afternoon. So your looking at a circa 20% saving over yesterday if you're in the US assuming the banks/credit card companies are passing on the same level of reduction.
I think you need to check your maths on that one.
1.3 from 1.5 is a 13% saving, not a 20% saving. 1.36 compared to 1.5 is a 9.3% saving. And if you look at it over the last few months rather than the last day, it's even less again.
If you buy lots of FW or UK products, you can thank the past 2 years worth of gradual GBP decline for the cheap prices more than anything.
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2016/06/25 02:20:40
Subject: Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k - DOW III
2016/06/25 03:56:49
Subject: Re:Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
Greetings folks. Today I want to take a small break from talking about toy soldiers and talk about something real.
As most of you will know, in one week's time, the UK will be holding a referendum on whether or not we should stay as part of the European Union.
There's been a great deal of misinformation and scare-mongering from both sides of the debate, and a lot of people don't seem to have any idea about the facts, never mind what to do with the information.
Today I want to try and convince you why you should VOTE REMAIN. Instead of bombarding you with facts and figures (which I can do if you want something specific), I'm going to give you an emotional reason of personal experience.
Icarus Miniatures wouldn't exist without the EU. Really it's as simple as that!
Some of you will already know parts of this story, but I'll tell it again in full so you get the whole picture.
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I began seriously considering Icarus as a business in 2014 - I had just moved back to North Wales from Cardiff and I was looking for work.
Unfortunately, the only job I could find at the time was as a team member in Argos. My contract was for 10 hours a week, and I worked on average around 16 hours. However, because of the shift structure, I still found myself working 4/5 days a week.
This continued for almost a year. I had moved back North, in with my parents, with the hope of saving enough money to do something more. But I ended up having far less money than I'd had in Cardiff. This lead to some pretty serious bouts of depression, and I can honestly tell you I was not in a good place, emotionally.
Almost a year later, I took a trip to Careers Wales to see a jobs advisor because my attempts at finding other work myself were unsuccessful. The woman I spoke to pointed my in the direction of Jobs Growth Wales, a scheme that is funded by the European Social Fund (as is Careers Wales itself).
Through JGW I was able to secure a full-time job as a marketing Manager for a food company.
It's because of this that I was able to put enough money aside to even consider starting Icarus Miniatures.
Once I eventually left that secure job to focus on Icarus full time, I attended a variety of workshops and courses, funded by the EU, that gave me a lot of the skills needed to run a business.
And then earlier this year, I was able to secure a business loan, through an EU based scheme, so that I could keep bringing awesome miniatures to your tabletop.
At every step of this process going from lifeless worker bee, to the owner of a company that creates happiness, the EU has been instrumental to making sure I succeed.
If it wasn't for the EU schemes I was lucky enough to make use of, you wouldn't be reading this today, Icarus Miniatures wouldn't exist, and I have no idea what route my life would have taken. It's not an exaggeration to say that accessing those schemes and moving forward with them saved my life.
But being a part of the EU still helps Icarus Miniatures day-today.
As part of the single market, I can send high quality resin miniatures to gamers across Europe, and they don't have to worry about being slapped with customs charges.
If the UK leaves the EU, all of that might change. If our position in the common market changes and those customs charges being to come in, it will cost EU customers extra to buy an Icarus Miniature. At the moment most of our sales are only a few models at a time, but the value would still mean they could have up to 15 euros customs charges placed on them.
I certainly wouldn't pay almost twice as much to get my hands on a shiny new mini, and I don't expect the majority of European customers to do the same.
But the problem is 70% of Icarus' trade comes from overseas, with most of that coming from EU countries. I can't afford to lose out on nearly half of my overall customer-base. Icarus Miniatures likely wouldn't survive it. We're too young of a company to have the capital reserves to survive a drought like that while ramping up business elsewhere.
And I'm sure there are plenty of small uk-based mini companies that would be in the same situation as us.
So if you're not sure how to vote next Thursday, please, please vote to Remain so that we can keep bringing you miniature goodness!
And please share this around if you know someone that could benefit from an emotional reason not to leave!
Much love and happy gaming.
Anto
Can't say I'll be buying from Pegasus any time in the near future (not that I even knew they existed)
"We have lost the element of surprise, and they do not fear us. Perhaps they will appreciate our devotion to the Emperor and our ruthless efficiency."
2016/06/25 12:46:02
Subject: Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
Kid_Kyoto wrote: A lot of the UK mini companies ahve been on facebook promoting this unexpected 'sale price' for US buyers.
I think I'll be hitting up Ramshackle and maybe Hasslefree for some long overdue orders this week
Not so funny if you live in the UK and want to buy outside.
The exchange rate drop is big when you look at it over the course of 1 week, but when you expand your horizon to the past 6 months it isn't a hell of a lot worse than it has been. The average over the past 6 months compared to the USD looks to be about 1.42, it's currently trading at 1.36, so it's currently only down 4.2% compared to that.
It just looks worse because the GBP had been recovering for the past few weeks, and with brexit it lost the ground it had been gaining.
If you're a UK business who relies on buying stuff from overseas, the much more gradual fall over the past 2 years has probably kicked you in the balls more than brexit has.
It's all just reactionary fear at this point, we'll have to see how things pan out over the next few months and years.
Macroeconomics is one of those fields where it can always tell you apparently why something happened, but is pretty bad at predicting the future.
Its been going down more visible for a year now? for many reasons, one of the major ones being the Brexit uncertainty.
No one knows the future but something tells me if you put yourself in a weaker position someone stronger will have a jab at you. Depends on how prepared you are for that.
I have seen deep recession and austerity measures in my lifetime but UK on the last decades has not. I hope I'm wrong but with the weak politician clowns in the UK and apparent animosity from EU things seem to be headed that way. Also this country is now divided.
Recession can be good for some things but for the most part is just too painful for the medium working class and dramatic for vulnerable small business.
Miniatures business that rely heavy on shipping worldwide its not particularly bright either and outsourcing services overseas will be less appealing too.
According to Annie on Twitter, it's going to be quite rough for Bad Squiddo Games :(.
"Our fantasy settings are grim and dark, but that is not a reflection of who we are or how we feel the real world should be. [...] We will continue to diversify the cast of characters we portray [...] so everyone can find representation and heroes they can relate to. [...] If [you don't feel the same way], you will not be missed"
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2016/07/05 21:18:31
Subject: Brexit - what would it mean for GW and others?
My guess is that GW (not FW) already insured themselves from possible changes like these by simply making prices in Euros a bit higher than they would be in quid (directly converted to euros).
FW on the other hand...
Euro to GBP on 15.12.12 was like 1: 0.72. Now it's 1: 0.85. Oh happy days, oh joyful days. Until FW decides to do a nightly price increase again
No madam, 40,000 is the year that this game is set in. Not how much it costs. Though you may have a point. - GW Fulchester 
The Gatling Guns have flamethrowers on them because this is 40k 
