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 Daedleh wrote:
I got one of the defective Forgeguard sprues and can confirm that they're absolutely top quality.

Your second sentence completely qualifies this one, but it's a good thing you're not running for political office right now; otherwise we'd be hearing this line quoted out of context on countless television ads.

 Barzam wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be a lot harder to pull off organic shapes? Isn't that why they used the zombies as a test run? If they can pull those off well - and they did - why the reluctance over the Enforcers which should have been easier for them to produce? Especially considering that I don't think it's even the same factory that produced the Men-At-Arms.

They haven't yet built up a reputation for consistent quality. Instead, they have a reputation for ...let's call it uneven quality and questionable Quality Assurance (and I'm not talking about my complaints in the last page or two)


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 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
And to be fair we do not get photos of GW models prior to release either (or are even told what is going to be released).

Of course, we're not paying for GW kits upfront, sight unseen months or years before their release, and GW has that aforementioned reputation for consistent quality in their plastics. (even if some of the designs are soulless or questionable).

 pretre wrote:
Considering the improvement we've seen in materials and items since MaA, I'm not worried.

If all of mantics stuff had been constantly good since the KOW starter I would agree with you. Thing is consistently quality is not Mantic's strong point. So I can understand why people are worried.

 Azazelx wrote:

 Barzam wrote:
Isn't it supposed to be a lot harder to pull off organic shapes? Isn't that why they used the zombies as a test run? If they can pull those off well - and they did - why the reluctance over the Enforcers which should have been easier for them to produce? Especially considering that I don't think it's even the same factory that produced the Men-At-Arms.

They haven't yet built up a reputation for consistent quality. Instead, they have a reputation for ...let's call it uneven quality and questionable Quality Assurance (and I'm not talking about my complaints in the last page or two)

This might be irrational, but I do get worried that the overseas company they're getting their sculpts from will decide that Mantic is "too picky" when it comes to sculpt quality and refuse to work with Mantic in the future, or at least refuse future contracts with the presumable "We don't pay until we're happy" clause or something to that effect, sending Mantic back to square one as they search for a new alternative or take a crapshoot on the unwilling company.

Does anyone have more experience with iterations of product lines overseas? I honestly have no idea if Mantic seems to be having an unusual amount of trouble getting what they want out of the contracted company, or if their troubles are really basically par for the course.

I would be curious Dark Prince how common it is and if its the company thats the problem, Mantic themselves or more likely a mix of both.

 darkPrince010 wrote:

This might be irrational, but I do get worried that the overseas company they're getting their sculpts from will decide that Mantic is "too picky" when it comes to sculpt quality and refuse to work with Mantic in the future, or at least refuse future contracts with the presumable "We don't pay until we're happy" clause or something to that effect, sending Mantic back to square one as they search for a new alternative or take a crapshoot on the unwilling company.

Does anyone have more experience with iterations of product lines overseas? I honestly have no idea if Mantic seems to be having an unusual amount of trouble getting what they want out of the contracted company, or if their troubles are really basically par for the course.

You'd hope that the company working with Mantic would instead see it as a great opportunity to expand their business and customer base by providing quality work. Hopefully not with delays akin to WGF, but more competent/quality HIPS manufacturers can only be a good thing for our hobby and the industry.

 Azazelx wrote:

 darkPrince010 wrote:

This might be irrational, but I do get worried that the overseas company they're getting their sculpts from will decide that Mantic is "too picky" when it comes to sculpt quality and refuse to work with Mantic in the future, or at least refuse future contracts with the presumable "We don't pay until we're happy" clause or something to that effect, sending Mantic back to square one as they search for a new alternative or take a crapshoot on the unwilling company.

Does anyone have more experience with iterations of product lines overseas? I honestly have no idea if Mantic seems to be having an unusual amount of trouble getting what they want out of the contracted company, or if their troubles are really basically par for the course.

You'd hope that the company working with Mantic would instead see it as a great opportunity to expand their business and customer base by providing quality work. Hopefully not with delays akin to WGF, but more competent/quality HIPS manufacturers can only be a good thing for our hobby and the industry.

Oh, I completely agree, and I think if this company can get into a "groove" of quality (Where Mantic doesn't need to hover over them like a mother hen for 6+ months, but instead see one, maybe two samples that show the quality desired), we can start to see a boatload of nice cheap plastics in the future. Hell, if this company can provide the example, or even eventually spread the talent to other companies, we might be able to see HIPS modelling from overseas from other companies as well. I don't mind resin/restic for my gaming models, but I will happily discard all other material options in order to get my mitts on a sprue-plastic option.

Anyone still waiting on their Mars Attacks KS delivery?

It has been on sale on the shelves of 3 different local stores in my city for over a month now, hoping I don't have to wait another month for it to arrive.

Fairly happy with the miniature quality currently, but the KS grindstone definitely needs sorting out properly so there is enough time to ship to backers completely before retail release.

I'm still waiting

Think they said it should be finished shipping by the middle of next month.

There's a ton of stuff on my make paint and play pile at the moment so I don't mind not having it yet does suck not having my goodies before retail tho.

I think they're shipping the packages with the GSR now? I would have expected and update to that effect but meh. I just hope they include an extra baggie of helmets like they're supposed to but I guess I can missing parts them like anything else if it comes to it, can't put them on till Ive painted anyway.

I'm still waiting, but the GSR is meant to be in mine, plus we tend to get ours last down here

I'm gonna have two of those bad boys. I figured one would get lonely, and two can bro-fist and shrink a larger horde of tiny humans

Kind of wondering if anything in my collection will be able to stand to them in terms of height, they're big. I guess if nobody else can match them, numbers and heavy firepower should do it.

Really looking forward to running the scenario where Edwyn rushes out to 'slay' the GSR.

 scarletsquig wrote:
Anyone still waiting on their Mars Attacks KS delivery?

It has been on sale on the shelves of 3 different local stores in my city for over a month now, hoping I don't have to wait another month for it to arrive.

Fairly happy with the miniature quality currently, but the KS grindstone definitely needs sorting out properly so there is enough time to ship to backers completely before retail release.

The base box has been at my local store for the last month as well in the US. I'm a bit surprised that they haven't finished fulfilling their KS obligations.

Well the base box has been done for a good while. The kickstarter fulfillments (potentially) have things that probably won't be released for awhile. Not to start that argument again or anything.

More of a logistics thing being that it's difficult/expensive to disperse rewards as they complete to keep backers 100% ahead I guess. I can afford to be patient at this point so it isn't bothering me. I understand the sentiment though.

 GrimDork wrote:
I'm gonna have two of those bad boys. I figured one would get lonely, and two can bro-fist and shrink a larger horde of tiny humans

Oh good, glad to see I wasn't the only one

I'm looking forward to putting it on my Shelf of Robits and other Fantastic Mechanical Men, my seemingly pointless but doing it anyway it's my time and money stop judging me project to own and catalogue for size all the Dreadnought-ish sized robot minis I can find, to compare with all the others.

I still don't have my MA stuff. I'm curious where it is, but not concerned yet.

Got mine. Giant bugs FTW!

Didnt they say the end of October? Got over a week yet then right?

Nothing in my grubby paws yet, that's for sure.

Of course I had a big Bloodshed on the Battlefield order with multiple robots and all sorts of extra add ons. Would have been nice to get this when I had time to sit and play it in the summer, like we were supposed to get it.

On the other hand, it's not like I don't have 5 or 6 KS games that need playing and painting on my dining room table currently.

I was able to piggyback on another fine user's pledge so I could get some nice terrain for Pulp City and, of course, a GSR - also for Pulp City!

 scarletsquig wrote:
Anyone still waiting on their Mars Attacks KS delivery?

It has been on sale on the shelves of 3 different local stores in my city for over a month now, hoping I don't have to wait another month for it to arrive.

Fairly happy with the miniature quality currently, but the KS grindstone definitely needs sorting out properly so there is enough time to ship to backers completely before retail release.

Still waiting.

 BobtheInquisitor wrote:

 scarletsquig wrote:
Anyone still waiting on their Mars Attacks KS delivery?

It has been on sale on the shelves of 3 different local stores in my city for over a month now, hoping I don't have to wait another month for it to arrive.

Fairly happy with the miniature quality currently, but the KS grindstone definitely needs sorting out properly so there is enough time to ship to backers completely before retail release.

Still waiting.

Why hello there fine user!

(Dammit Mantic, hurry up already!!!)

Come on people, those who have their items with the shiny new stuff are slacking.

Lets seem some pictures of painted bugs and giant robots! :p

Am I right in thinking it's just the main game which is being delivered for the MA kickstarter, right? Notall the other stuff from the add ons?

Nothing for me yet, but I did get a shipping notice last week. Hopefully I'll have my stuff soon.

Got some Giant bugs and scenery in the mail yesterday, Pleasantly surprised with the material I must say.

Waiting for my 2 GSR, 3 Trucks, 3 Saucers, 6 bugs and ~120 infantry, not to mention a table's worth of urban terrain.

Nothing here yet. No shipping notice, and still not a word on my DZ replacement/missing stuff getting shipped, either.

No intention of paying for Wave 3 additions until they manage to deliver on the other items first.

Are people getting shipping notices? I don't recall receiving any for any of the last n+1 Mantic kickstarter shipments.

It seems more and more likely that I'm not going to boost my pledge for Dwarf King's Kickstarter. Well, not past $10 for the Fighting Fantasy-style books, anyway.

I got a UPS shipping notice for DZ wave two, don't recall for wave one and those emails are all gone. Didn't receive shipping notice of my wave one missing parts, they just arrived in an envelope one day.

Expecting a shipping notice for MA, but not gotten one yet, and AU does tend to be last.