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What if that picture was a replacement for the battle fortress

 44Ronin wrote:
If you can't handle randomness then don't take the random units, it's that simple.

DId you actually read what I just wrote? I don't have a problem with random. Random isn't the problem. Random with the potential to make a unit worse with no corresponding drop in points is the problem.

I don't want to return to the boretastic, dull and characterless 3rd ed Orks with a lack of fun options

'Options' does not equate to 'random stuff that the player has no control over, and that may put his army at a disadvantage'

 insaniak wrote:

 44Ronin wrote:
If you can't handle randomness then don't take the random units, it's that simple.

DId you actually read what I just wrote? I don't have a problem with random. Random isn't the problem. Random with the potential to make a unit worse with no corresponding drop in points is the problem.

The risk is proportional to the reward component, it is not balanced with points.

Eg., double sixes on a shokk attack gun... how much is that effect worth in points when it gives immediate removal of the target?


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In other words,

What's the point of the risk/reward mechanic, if the points value is skewed to protect the player from the risk?

 Agent_Tremolo wrote:

 Deunstephe wrote:
It's going to be the equivalent of a Dreadknight or a Knight Titan - I'm guessing Dreadknight, since Orks don't have any oval-base walkers yet.

What if it was a regular walker? I'd find it odd if they gave transport capacity to a MC... Squiggoths have it, but they are one of those wonky FW units so they might get a pass.

I'd rather have it as a strange MC than ANOTHER troop transport. We still don't know what other weapon options/wargear it has, so I think it's better to class it as a MC instead of a walker. There could be a supa-skorcha, or a second CCW and some sort of mega-boosta to speed it along the board and take out whoever you're fighting. Both the Riptide and Wraithknight are Jump Monstrous Creatures, and the Dreadknight can wade to the enemy to tear them a new one, so either this thing deep-strikes or gets a mega-boosta. If it's just another slow, cumbersome walker then we've just got a big meatshield with troop capacity that won't be worth the cost, both in points and big bucks.

I would kill for old school Splatta Kannons !!

I had a game, fielding 4 Splatta Kannons, where GORK and MORK were on my side. Did not roll a misfire, on at least the first half dozen jumps. My opponent sat there helpless as my Splatta Kannons bounced around murdering huge chunks of his army. What made it even more EPIC was the last Splatta Kannon scattering back into my own army, doing serious damage to my forces as well.

Good Times...

I weeped when 3rd edition took away all the fun stuff, the weirdboyz, and the Orks ability to shoot straight.

 Grimskul wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 oldone wrote:
Hey I feel like this is sort of related but I've got the 7th ed book and I was looking through it, and I notice the ork pages in the background book with this image which looked off to me for ages and I know why, it's a mek in mega armour with a kustom force field on the back. Is it possible hint?

ZOMG, 2+ armour AND giving off a 5+ cover (potentially 5+ invuln. in the next book) save? Sweet Mork that would be bootiful. I am crying green tears of WAAAGHness if this is true.

With "Ignores Cover" being so rampant I'll be highly disappointed if it doesn't give an invulnerable save.

As for heads on models, unless he's a clamshell on his own I'd hold out the possibility of alternate heads in a kit. Then again it's not like they can't offer a couple different heads in a clamshell either.

Watch it cost like, fifty points, if it gives a 5+ invulnerable save. I mean, if it doesn't get nerfed to only protect the models within the bubble.

All these Ork changes are looking interesting. It'd be nice to see some Greenskins on the table in my area again, rather than all Guardsmen/Eldar, all the time.

So, the Gorkanaut - going to be the Ork version of a Knight Titan, or a bigger Ork Dreadnaught?

Given that it already costs 50 points in the Ork book for only a 5+ cover save I would take it in a heartbeat.

I obviously need to reread the Ork book; I was under the impression that it cost 35pts.

Man, I remember I used to want to start an Ork army... maybe this book will encourage me to do so.

Had a skim through some of the pages and I don't think it has been mentioned but the box that is stood up to the top right of the gorkanaut could possibly be a new kit, can anyone identify it? Looks a bit like the old metal nazdreg style meganobz

Crazyterran wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

Crazyterran wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:

 Grimskul wrote:

 oldone wrote:
Hey I feel like this is sort of related but I've got the 7th ed book and I was looking through it, and I notice the ork pages in the background book with this image which looked off to me for ages and I know why, it's a mek in mega armour with a kustom force field on the back. Is it possible hint?

ZOMG, 2+ armour AND giving off a 5+ cover (potentially 5+ invuln. in the next book) save? Sweet Mork that would be bootiful. I am crying green tears of WAAAGHness if this is true.

With "Ignores Cover" being so rampant I'll be highly disappointed if it doesn't give an invulnerable save.

As for heads on models, unless he's a clamshell on his own I'd hold out the possibility of alternate heads in a kit. Then again it's not like they can't offer a couple different heads in a clamshell either.

Watch it cost like, fifty points, if it gives a 5+ invulnerable save. I mean, if it doesn't get nerfed to only protect the models within the bubble.

All these Ork changes are looking interesting. It'd be nice to see some Greenskins on the table in my area again, rather than all Guardsmen/Eldar, all the time.

So, the Gorkanaut - going to be the Ork version of a Knight Titan, or a bigger Ork Dreadnaught?

Given that it already costs 50 points in the Ork book for only a 5+ cover save I would take it in a heartbeat.

I obviously need to reread the Ork book; I was under the impression that it cost 35pts.

Man, I remember I used to want to start an Ork army... maybe this book will encourage me to do so.

The 35 points you're thinking about is the Big Mek. But yeah, I'm just hoping that it will give us more options to play with than just focusing on shootas, lootas and wagons.

Found this on the UK website:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=6082663

I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.

Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set.

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik.

 Squidbot wrote:
I think there are five configurations of Big Gunz on the way.
There may well be a larger meganob, with buzz saws rather than klaws. Possibly with Nazdreg/Specialist Big Mek in same box.

Theory; the new (Restyled AOBR) Warboss with Squigg could be Warlord Grukk as mentioned in the Dark Millenium book from the 7th set.

Mad Dok with Narthecium hand could be Grotsnik.

If theres a possibiltity at 5 differnt big gunz maybe one will be a kinda AA weapon, that would be kinda neat. with the new reported grot models that have been seen i think they are the ones that would be with the gunz not a new set in their own right.

also liking the big new walker but would like to see some better pic's.

The video confirms ORKS are getting things now and is this the first time they have openly said it in the videos?.

nflagey wrote:
Found this on the UK website:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=6082663

I'm so excited, I'm like a dizzy snotling.


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Omg omg omg omg yes.

Don't like the big walker but, with some kunnversions itll be dope to the max.

That video is AWESOME. I'm so pumped I just punched the wall yelling WAAAAGGHHH.
My hand hurts now and it was sort of stupid but it was worth it man i'm so pumped.

My Mek NailBrain is gunna git SAVVY wid his burna!

Not sure about those legs, especially for a transport, but with some treads on the sides instead of legs it would kind of give a steam gargant vibe.

I love the Gorkanaut (Or possibly Morkanaut). Can't wait to paint that fat boy.

What's up with GW's (sudden?) fascination with treads?

[EDIT]crosspost with above.

Look half a page above you, bud.

 Mantle wrote:
Had a skim through some of the pages and I don't think it has been mentioned but the box that is stood up to the top right of the gorkanaut could possibly be a new kit, can anyone identify it? Looks a bit like the old metal nazdreg style meganobz

I zoomed in on the top right hand corner of the Dakkanaut picture to find that there is something there.

Flash Git, Meganob, Nob with Cybork body?

 JeffVimes wrote:
Pictures

Like 4 posts up.


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 BlaxicanX wrote:
What's up with GW's (sudden?) fascination with treads?

They're not treads, they're feet.

Ugh. I really really like that model, and I really like the idea of having my Big Mek and a retinue of Cybork Nobs pop out of it and start breaking things, but £65 puts it way out of my price range, and it seems to complex for me to be able to feasibly scratch build it

I love the way that they orked up the index.

Still not sure about the legs on the gorkanaut. The new angle makes it look like it could possibly stand up a bit to actually move and that pose is just it squatting down to deploy the passengers. There also could possibly be something that looks a little like a small wheel on the side of the belly...

I like the jaw plate, but I'm not fond of the rest of the head. Hopefully there will be an alternative option.

Traktor Kannons, Bubble Chukkas and the Hand of Mork would all make good options for anti-air weapons. I'm hoping for something which uses the Graviton or Strikedown rules.

 ceorron wrote:

 Mantle wrote:
Had a skim through some of the pages and I don't think it has been mentioned but the box that is stood up to the top right of the gorkanaut could possibly be a new kit, can anyone identify it? Looks a bit like the old metal nazdreg style meganobz

I zoomed in on the top right hand corner of the Dakkanaut picture to find that there is something there.

Flash Git, Meganob, Nob with Cybork body?

Someone mentioned earlier that it was a box of wolf guard terminators.

 ceorron wrote:

 Mantle wrote:
Had a skim through some of the pages and I don't think it has been mentioned but the box that is stood up to the top right of the gorkanaut could possibly be a new kit, can anyone identify it? Looks a bit like the old metal nazdreg style meganobz

I zoomed in on the top right hand corner of the Dakkanaut picture to find that there is something there.

Flash Git, Meganob, Nob with Cybork body?

Definitely several blue pixels and some purple-ish blue pixels if you ask me. Could be anything, really.

nflagey wrote:
Found this on the UK website:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=6082663

13 seconds. At least GW doesn't waste our time as much with this one.

I think that should sort out thre pixel problem...



Can we go back to orks please

Cheers

 Kosake wrote:

 ceorron wrote:

 Mantle wrote:
Had a skim through some of the pages and I don't think it has been mentioned but the box that is stood up to the top right of the gorkanaut could possibly be a new kit, can anyone identify it? Looks a bit like the old metal nazdreg style meganobz

I zoomed in on the top right hand corner of the Dakkanaut picture to find that there is something there.

Flash Git, Meganob, Nob with Cybork body?

Definitely several blue pixels and some purple-ish blue pixels if you ask me. Could be anything, really.

No! It is a murderer!

 boredbeard wrote:
I think that should sort out thre pixel problem...



Can we go back to orks please

Cheers

Yeah it's the Wolf Guard on the right. Case closed people, case closed. When is CSI on next we need those photo imaging skills. LOL

 wana10 wrote:
Not sure about those legs, especially for a transport, but with some treads on the sides instead of legs it would kind of give a steam gargant vibe.

Old Ruzzbots are a lot better design with their tracks, IMO. I might build mine like that

Gorkanaut looks horrible... Such a letdown :(

Also, the price makes me furious, I'd better just get the good old Stompa for 5 bucks more.

What happend to the other rumored releases?