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I know that the emperor destroyed Horus but, there has been cases when even though the "body" of chaos follower is gone, their soul is shot in the warp and then they "come back (demon prince). The same thing could of happened to Horus even though it might of taken much longer for him to return since he was killed by the emperor.

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Nope. Once your soul is in the Warp, unless you already have the Eternal Warrior or Ever-Living trait, you get devoured. There are more Gods of Chaos than just the Great Four, and some of those other Gods don't care who you used to work for, you're a very small fish in a very big pond.

In Horus' case, the Emperor destroyed his very soul.

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Yeah, the Emperor totally destroyed Horus, he is not coming back. Ever.
Like Psienesis said, the Emperor destroyed Horus' soul.
   
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Horus was redeemed at the end. He didn't belong to them any more.
   
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"Redeemed" in the sense that even his soul was obliterated, sure.

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SerQuintus wrote:
Horus was redeemed at the end. He didn't belong to them any more.


I seriously hope that isn't ret-conned in.

Horus was defiant until he was destroyed.

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He wasn't so much redeemed as he realised what he'd done. He was still vulnerable to being possessed by the gods again though and finishing the Emperor off.
   
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 kronk wrote:
SerQuintus wrote:
Horus was redeemed at the end. He didn't belong to them any more.


I seriously hope that isn't ret-conned in.

Horus was defiant until he was destroyed.

The Bill King story which has been canon for almost 20 years says otherwise.

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Well then I'll just sit here corrected and drink my tea.

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I think "redeemed" is the wrong word entirely. He might have felt remorse or contrition, but that is not the same thing as being a "good guy" again.


redeemed
Compensate for the faults or bad aspects of (something): "a disappointing debate redeemed by an outstanding speech".

Do something that compensates for poor past performance or behavior.


... Horus did nothing at all like this, and, indeed, never got the chance to.

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He did feel regret and repent it all at the last minute, but redemption is in deeds, not thought.

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Whether or not he was repentant, the gods couldn't save him because the Emperor destroyed his soul. Even Chaos' version of the story from the Chaos Space Marines codex (which doesn't have Horus repenting) has the gods abandoning Horus because after the Emperor blasted away the soul, there was nothing left to save.
   
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Horus had served his purpose and they wanted to make room for their next pawn.

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Because Chaos doesn't want to win. They want an eternity of carnage.

Chaos actually loses if they win.

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Chaos won the Horus Heresy. It couldn't have gone better for them.

With both the Emperor and Horus out of the way, it was free to fill up the galaxy with "an eternity of carnage and slaughter and the laughter of thirsting gods" totally unopposed.

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If I remember rightly they withdrew from Horus once they felt the might of the psychic attack the Emperor was building to smite Horus. Normally they cannot be harmed on the mortal plain but with much power invested in Horus they risked damage should they stay present. Their absence allowed Horus to realise what he had done. Felt remorse not redeemed however he had fallen far too far.

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Well, that was an interesting metaphysical point Ugly Green Trog. Thanks!


And furthermore I would say that the Chaos gods are purfidious, and fickle easily casting away their playthings when they become broken or boring. Loyalty to their followers is not something they have much regard for.

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'Cause he'd done what they wanted him to do. The logical problem with the premise of the question is that it assumes the Chaos Gods are a monolithic entity, there are actually four of them and they don't like each other much. Once Horus was struck down, the Chaos Gods checked over the situation, saw that the Emperor was pretty badly wounded, chuckled to themselves, and given that the possible expenditure of power could have been pretty significant immediately had a four-way prisoner's dilemma where the Chaos Gods who helped Horus would be at a disadvantage against those who didn't unless they all did, and since the Chaos Gods don't trust each other...

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SerQuintus wrote:
Horus was redeemed at the end. He didn't belong to them any more.



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...because there was nothing left to save. The Emperor obliterated Horus' body and, indeed, his very soul.

 
   
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People say that the soul of Horus was destroyed but this begs the question whether any of the primarchs had a soul since they were basically lab rats created by the Emperor.

   
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Well obviously they do, since the Emperor destroyed it.

We could infer that in 40k that a soul is what nearly all sentient beings possess, with the obvious exceptions being pariahs.

All the primarchs demonstrated varying levels of psychic power, and we know that the strength of a soul has a direct connection with psychic ability.

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