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Meh… my chapter…no my chapter…
NO MY CHAPTER MAAAAAAAAAAAMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
Bagh!

I look forward to new 3+ models and bits… because I’m not into the $600.00++ army builds and competitive play anymore I have the luxury of just buying what I want to chop on…

Mark my words this is going to cause massive BS between every Fluff historian, would be expert, Cry Baby, Codex Creep boohoo-er, “my army list is outdated cause I bought the most powerful flash in the pan” “why won’t they Make Rules for my Blood Ravens, my Omega marines… My Mentors!!!!! MKIV bolters are better than MKV… MKVIII armor came out during the Blablabla…..
This is going to be fun!

40K is space marine driven… watching the Crack heads squabble over the crumbs and argue over the most insignificant, irrelevant, frivolous and trifling, crap over the next month or so… great fun.

Dark Angel players with “now my codex sucks…” Black Templars “I want special scouts and 12 man squads….”
If you buy an Army and that army relies on one characters rules to make it function and you go over the top with your build and that Army Now is completely Null and Void because of 2 simple 20 word paragraph rule changes…

I don’t feel sorry for you.

if you’re a player who’s been in the game as long as me since 2nd or 3rd edition and you know this happens with every new edition, the creep, the rules swaps, the obsoleting of specialized armies…

I feel even less sorry for you.

Advice#1 New buyers and Old Power gamers, Build an army that can survive codex changes by following the K.I.S. rule or be ready to Spend another 600.00+++ in 3 years….

Someone already mention the great leader George W. Bush and our current fantastic Leader Barack H. Obama. This is going to be Good…

 MetalOxide wrote:

As a Chaos player, I disagree, I am delighted that the Emperor's lap-dogs have got a new codex, my Plague Marines will gleefully stomp the new units of the feeble loyalists and relish converting the new units to Nurgle, turning them into vessels of glorious corruption and pestilence.

DATASHEETS FOR THE DATASHEET GOD!

You My Man Have your Head screwed on All kinda of straight! my thought exactly...

I see Kanluwen with the DA getting screwed thing... Again!... Lol. Who cares they have Plasma Terminators and you can ally the rest...

oh it's starting it's Starting!!! Popcorns Almost Done!!!!!

 5deadly wrote:
Dark Angel players with “now my codex sucks…” Black Templars “I want special scouts and 12 man squads….”
If you buy an Army and that army relies on one characters rules to make it function and you go over the top with your build and that Army Now is completely Null and Void because of 2 simple 20 word paragraph rule changes…

I don’t feel sorry for you.

if you’re a player who’s been in the game as long as me since 2nd or 3rd edition and you know this happens with every new edition, the creep, the rules swaps, the obsoleting of specialized armies…

I feel even less sorry for you.

Advice#1 New buyers and Old Power gamers, Build an army that can survive codex changes by following the K.I.S. rule or be ready to Spend another 600.00+++ in 3 years….

Or just continue to play older editions.

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

The only question I think anyone could ask without incurring the Bryll is; "How awesome is this new GW product, A; Awesome, B; Really Awesome, C; Totally Awesome?"


On the plus side, my initial "I have a bit of sick in my mouth" reaction to the idea of "mini-dreadnaughts/super-termies" is receding slightly, if they are based on some of those concepts. However, the existence of those concepts does raise the possibility that they're the actual source of this rumour, rather than anything tangible.

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

 Bildsturmer wrote:

 5deadly wrote:
Dark Angel players with “now my codex sucks…” Black Templars “I want special scouts and 12 man squads….”
If you buy an Army and that army relies on one characters rules to make it function and you go over the top with your build and that Army Now is completely Null and Void because of 2 simple 20 word paragraph rule changes…

I don’t feel sorry for you.

if you’re a player who’s been in the game as long as me since 2nd or 3rd edition and you know this happens with every new edition, the creep, the rules swaps, the obsoleting of specialized armies…

I feel even less sorry for you.

Advice#1 New buyers and Old Power gamers, Build an army that can survive codex changes by following the K.I.S. rule or be ready to Spend another 600.00+++ in 3 years….

Or just continue to play older editions.

Yeah or INQ28 or just focus on making fantastic models. if the new Skirmish is GWs Brand name INQ28 I'll play that...

 BryllCream wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

I actually agree with that statement. Complaining about things that don't exist yet is like complaining that someone's imaginary friend is a blue dragon. It doesn't really get you anywhere and it makes you look kind of silly because you're complaining about something that isn't real.

Once rumors become reality then the real bitching can properly begin because then the actual truths of the release will be known and everyone will actually have ammunition for their arguments.

As a Salamander player, I cant fething wait!

Ive always been a budget player (at least as much as possible in this hobby) but I have a feeling that mentality may go out the window next month......

ClockworkZion wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Because there totally was not precedent in how Dark Angels got treated the last time there was a C: SM after Dark Angels.

I don't see rumors about DA losing anything to the Marines this time though.

Really the bitching boiled down to the fact that they wanted the toys the Marines were getting, but don't want to share the ones they have. It was pathetic to see.

For me it was the shock factor. I was like "aww man that is so cool and that makes rhinos better and that gives them better AA. We (DA) didn't get this.". Then after cooling down, and someone mentioning allies (didn't even cross my mind cause I haven't really used them), I went " Well my codex is perfectly balanced for 6th and has it's own cool stuff and gimmicks. The sky isn't falling and this situation isn't at all the same as the last time. So now I can start on that custom chapter I was designing fluff for awhile back, and ally in with my DA thus stealing all the new shinies for them."

Allies is an even more cool concept now. Because now I can play the cool new marine stuff without losing my favorites the DA, but instead amplify them. I stand behind a lot of what I say, but DA getting screwed from the new C:SM drop isn't one of them (thank you allies). Sometimes you just need a kick in the pants by a bunch of random people to get your head on straight.

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

I actually agree with that statement. Complaining about things that don't exist yet is like complaining that someone's imaginary friend is a blue dragon. It doesn't really get you anywhere and it makes you look kind of silly because you're complaining about something that isn't real.

I'd agree too, until you look at the root of that quote tree, and find that Bryllo is once again, shall we say, exaggerating for effect? I actually suggested..

azreal13 wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:
I wonder how much the tactical box is going to go up in price over the current one. I'm pretty sure the sternguard are going to be the same price per model as the other 5 man plastic elite boxes like BA Sanguinary Guard, Dire Avengers and the two Necron plastic elite boxes. The space marine within a space marine kit will probably be sizable and be something like the Bloodcrushers or the Tau Crisis suits.

I'd guess we are looking at an increase from £23 to £30 for a 10 man box, going to a 5 man box doesn't quite feel right.

To which Grimtuff responded

Grimtuff wrote:
Tripling in price since their release 15 years ago. Had to happen sometime.

So, tripling of price, yes, but over 15 years, and, I believe a recut sprue?

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.

 BryllCream wrote:
For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

There are a few Imperial Guard troopers and Ork Boyz out there who think that halving the box contents isn't such a difficult move to believe...

 Ironwill13791 wrote:


For me it was the shock factor. I was like "aww man that is so cool and that makes rhinos better and that gives them better AA. We (DA) didn't get this.". Then after cooling down, and someone mentioning allies (didn't even cross my mind cause I haven't really used them), I went " Well my codex is perfectly balanced for 6th and has it's own cool stuff and gimmicks. The sky isn't falling and this situation isn't at all the same as the last time. So now I can start on that custom chapter I was designing fluff for awhile back, and ally in with my DA thus stealing all the new shinies for them."

Allies is an even more cool concept now. Because now I can play the cool new marine stuff without losing my favorites the DA, but instead amplify them. I stand behind a lot of what I say, but DA getting screwed from the new C:SM drop isn't one of them (thank you allies). Sometimes you just need a kick in the pants by a bunch of random people to get your head on straight.

And you Do have your Head Screwed on Straight man! Bring what you want Now.... want DA and SW do it. want Exodites mix Dark n Light until grey.... it's pretty open so no one should really be that worried...

Lets watch the fire works.. anytime now it'll be 5 man squads for $40... But it's the norm now, it's like complaining about the price of gas or milk. You’re really just complaining to complain.

with the Ally rule you can do so many things now... I kinda want to play again.

 NickTheButcher wrote:
As a Salamander player, I cant fething wait!

Ive always been a budget player (at least as much as possible in this hobby) but I have a feeling that mentality may go out the window next month......

I did 1500 points of them during 3rd burning down the House! I did the brown skin with blonde hair looked like an army of Dennis Rodmans. Fire on Green.

 azreal13 wrote:


I'd agree too, until you look at the root of that quote tree, and find that Bryllo is once again, shall we say, exaggerating for effect? I actually suggested..

azreal13 wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:
I wonder how much the tactical box is going to go up in price over the current one. I'm pretty sure the sternguard are going to be the same price per model as the other 5 man plastic elite boxes like BA Sanguinary Guard, Dire Avengers and the two Necron plastic elite boxes. The space marine within a space marine kit will probably be sizable and be something like the Bloodcrushers or the Tau Crisis suits.

I'd guess we are looking at an increase from £23 to £30 for a 10 man box, going to a 5 man box doesn't quite feel right.

To which Grimtuff responded

Grimtuff wrote:
Tripling in price since their release 15 years ago. Had to happen sometime.

So, tripling of price, yes, but over 15 years, and, I believe a recut sprue?

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.

Indeed. It was a simple statement of (a hypothetical) fact. No complaining to be seen. Ol' Brylly just wants a reason to attack us "butthurt brigadeers".

I fully see them doing 10 Tactical for £30. Mainly to keep the heavy weapons in the box, as if they put them in a 5 man box, how many illegal squads are the kiddies going to make?

 BryllCream wrote:

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

If you are responding to an individual post, it's often a good idea to quote it rather than to make a blanket statement about everyone involved in an aspect of the discussion.

I don't see why, at this point, GW would depart from the way they are pricing their various 40k releases. 10 man troop choice for X, 5 man elite boxes for Y. Large robots like killa kans or tau crisis suits for Z.

So I expect to see the plastic sternguard and vanguard at the same price as Dire Avengers and the Necron Immortals.

However, when there's good demand for something, you can push the price a bit. Space Marines sell so well, I bet they could include a few more options per kit and justify going slightly higher than the existing prices on their 10 model and 5 model kits.

 5deadly wrote:

 Ironwill13791 wrote:


For me it was the shock factor. I was like "aww man that is so cool and that makes rhinos better and that gives them better AA. We (DA) didn't get this.". Then after cooling down, and someone mentioning allies (didn't even cross my mind cause I haven't really used them), I went " Well my codex is perfectly balanced for 6th and has it's own cool stuff and gimmicks. The sky isn't falling and this situation isn't at all the same as the last time. So now I can start on that custom chapter I was designing fluff for awhile back, and ally in with my DA thus stealing all the new shinies for them."

Allies is an even more cool concept now. Because now I can play the cool new marine stuff without losing my favorites the DA, but instead amplify them. I stand behind a lot of what I say, but DA getting screwed from the new C:SM drop isn't one of them (thank you allies). Sometimes you just need a kick in the pants by a bunch of random people to get your head on straight.

Lets watch the fire works.. anytime now it'll be 5 man squads for $40... But it's the norm now, it's like complaining about the price of gas or milk. You’re really just complaining to complain.

 NickTheButcher wrote:
As a Salamander player, I cant fething wait!

Ive always been a budget player (at least as much as possible in this hobby) but I have a feeling that mentality may go out the window next month......

I did 1500 points of them during 3rd burning down the House! I did the brown skin with blonde hair looked like an army of Dennis Rodmans. Fire on Green.

Agreed with the comment regarding price. To add a couple things:

1. The hobby is expensive as it is anyway
2. How many tac squads do people need to buy? Existing SM players will likely only have to get models for the new weapon options. New/future/or players that DO need whole squads may be screwed but could always stock up on them now.....

Point being that this isn't the first time GW has increased prices like this. Is it really that surprising? Not that long ago I could get a land raider for $55 now its $75.

What would be sad/hilarious would be if they made combat squads the level you choose and buy at and then go to 5 marine boxes like the Grey Knight troop choice boxes.

1 Troop choice = 2 combat squads bought separately.

With Grey Knights being special hopefully they won't bring the 5 marine box to the codex marines.

 azreal13 wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

I actually agree with that statement. Complaining about things that don't exist yet is like complaining that someone's imaginary friend is a blue dragon. It doesn't really get you anywhere and it makes you look kind of silly because you're complaining about something that isn't real.

I'd agree too, until you look at the root of that quote tree, and find that Bryllo is once again, shall we say, exaggerating for effect? I actually suggested..

azreal13 wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:
I wonder how much the tactical box is going to go up in price over the current one. I'm pretty sure the sternguard are going to be the same price per model as the other 5 man plastic elite boxes like BA Sanguinary Guard, Dire Avengers and the two Necron plastic elite boxes. The space marine within a space marine kit will probably be sizable and be something like the Bloodcrushers or the Tau Crisis suits.

I'd guess we are looking at an increase from £23 to £30 for a 10 man box, going to a 5 man box doesn't quite feel right.

To which Grimtuff responded

Grimtuff wrote:
Tripling in price since their release 15 years ago. Had to happen sometime.

So, tripling of price, yes, but over 15 years, and, I believe a recut sprue?

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.

Gas price in 1998: ~$1.03
Gas price in 2013 (15 years later): ~$3.15

Tripling of price over 15 years. Hmmmm....

 5deadly wrote:

Dark Angel players with “now my codex sucks…” Black Templars “I want special scouts and 12 man squads….”
If you buy an Army and that army relies on one characters rules to make it function and you go over the top with your build and that Army Now is completely Null and Void because of 2 simple 20 word paragraph rule changes…

I don’t feel sorry for you.

I've been keeping my mouth shut all thread, but the ignorance on display here is astounding. The amount of condescending bull you squeezed into just a few sentences blew my mind.

You think Black Templar players are upset because some specific BT build might be invalidated? And you think if it happens it's their own fault because they went "over the top" with a list that required "one character" to make it function? Dude, try invalidation of their entire army, from all their special traits right down to their basic weapons loadout on their standard marines. And their only fault was buying a codex they liked and believing GW when they said they weren't Squatting any more armies (they might not truly be Squatted, but depending on how the rules shake up it could be close enough for some people).

The assumption that being included in the main space marine codex guarantees the loss of their unique differences is just as misguided.

The last book allowed White Scars players to field a complete bike army with the use of outflanking, not exactly straight out of Guilliman's playbook.

Being in Codex Space Marines does not automatically doom you to Codex Astartes compliance.

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

There are a few Imperial Guard troopers and Ork Boyz out there who think that halving the box contents isn't such a difficult move to believe...

Didn't an exec say that marine Tactical boxes made up a majority of their sales? Or a large amount anyway. Halving the content of their flagship box would be a bold move, their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units.


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 azreal13 wrote:

ClockworkZion wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

What's the matter? You okay?

Don't you think the price of a new product being sold is part of the discussion of the release of that product?

Of course it is. But deciding that they are going to double the price, and then knock them for it, makes literally no sense. Wait until we have actual details before whinging about them.

For the record if they do double in price then i will not buy a single tactical box. But I'm fairly confident they won't, £20 for 5 tactical marines would take the piss.

I actually agree with that statement. Complaining about things that don't exist yet is like complaining that someone's imaginary friend is a blue dragon. It doesn't really get you anywhere and it makes you look kind of silly because you're complaining about something that isn't real.

I'd agree too, until you look at the root of that quote tree, and find that Bryllo is once again, shall we say, exaggerating for effect? I actually suggested..

azreal13 wrote:

 frozenwastes wrote:
I wonder how much the tactical box is going to go up in price over the current one. I'm pretty sure the sternguard are going to be the same price per model as the other 5 man plastic elite boxes like BA Sanguinary Guard, Dire Avengers and the two Necron plastic elite boxes. The space marine within a space marine kit will probably be sizable and be something like the Bloodcrushers or the Tau Crisis suits.

I'd guess we are looking at an increase from £23 to £30 for a 10 man box, going to a 5 man box doesn't quite feel right.

To which Grimtuff responded

Grimtuff wrote:
Tripling in price since their release 15 years ago. Had to happen sometime.

So, tripling of price, yes, but over 15 years, and, I believe a recut sprue?

But the strawman holocaust in Notts continues apace.

I don't see what you're trying to say here? I was addressing speculation on future price rises, which the posts directly above mine specifically mentioned.

 BryllCream wrote:
... their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units..

Again, the nearly doubling in price of Imperial Guard and Ork basic troops belies this idea.

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
... their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units..

Again, the nearly doubling in price of Imperial Guard and Ork basic troops belies this idea.

I do not disagree with the facts of your post Insaniak, but I do want to point out that Imperial Guard no longer are restricted to two squads and a command minimum for a single Troop choice.

If the only Troop choice still was the single Platoon? I would have been a lot more frustrated with the move to the 10 model box from the 20 model box.

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
... their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units..

Again, the nearly doubling in price of Imperial Guard and Ork basic troops belies this idea.

And if you want to look even more recently, hello Dire Avengers!

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
... their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units..

Again, the nearly doubling in price of Imperial Guard and Ork basic troops belies this idea.

If we're using that logic then there are far more boxes that did not double in price than did. I could take Deamon Flamers as an example and claim that GW were lowering prices and I'd be flamed into oblivion, you can't take two isolated price increased and claim that that is a trend that GW are adhering too when they simply are not.

Some boxes have gone up in price a lot more than others, yes. But you have no reason whatsoever to assume that Tactical Squads will be one of the ones that does so to a drastic amount. It would be perfectly sensible to presume that they will go up by the average price increases - let's say 10%, since no one has any figures I may as well pull one out of my arse. That'd make a tactical squad £25.30. Fairly expensive yes, but not "omgwtf" expensive like Land Raiders or Valkyries.

 BryllCream wrote:

I don't see what you're trying to say here? I was addressing speculation on future price rises, which the posts directly above mine specifically mentioned.

So this is addressing speculation?

BryllCream wrote:So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

That's not "addressing speculation" that's complaining about people speculating. The post immediately above this was Grimtuff's which was quoting mine.

Again, you're defending against perceived attacks that aren't there by strawmanning like a Victorian farmer at harvest time (or something.) Like usual.

If you weren't specifically addressing our points, then as has been out to you already, its best to quote the posts you're responding to, or people will simply assume that its the one directly above.

Dire Avengers are the latest. I can really see Tac Squads being next.

 azreal13 wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:

I don't see what you're trying to say here? I was addressing speculation on future price rises, which the posts directly above mine specifically mentioned.

So this is addressing speculation?

BryllCream wrote:So we're knocking GW for price increases that haven't even happened/may not ever happen? Awesome.

Can we also knock GW for causing the apocolypse and sinking the Belgrano?

That's not "addressing speculation" that's complaining about people speculating. The post immediately above this was Grimtuff's which was quoting mine.

Again, you're defending against perceived attacks that aren't there by strawmanning like a Victorian farmer at harvest time (or something.) Like usual.

If you weren't specifically addressing our points, then as has been out to you already, its best to quote the posts you're responding to, or people will simply assume that its the one directly above.

So you *do* think that it's legitimate to bash GW for price increases that haven't happened and that we don't know will happen? Just so we're clear. And to try and address actual content rather than "lol bryllcream y you strawknight".


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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Dire Avengers are the latest. I can really see Tac Squads being next.

Well it would suck if that was the case. Tactical squads are very big sellers in a way that Dire Avengers are not. The starter set stayed cheap, I think tactical squads will too. But I wouldn't put my house on it.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Dire Avengers are the latest. I can really see Tac Squads being next.

Whoa HB.

At least Tactical Squads are getting the New Gravity Gun Accessory Sprue in their box.

 BryllCream wrote:
If we're using that logic then there are far more boxes that did not double in price than did. I could take Deamon Flamers as an example and claim that GW were lowering prices and I'd be flamed into oblivion, you can't take two isolated price increased and claim that that is a trend that GW are adhering too when they simply are not.

I'm not saying that it's a trend. I'm saying that it wouldn't be particularly surprising, based on previous actions.

Some boxes have gone up in price a lot more than others, yes. But you have no reason whatsoever to assume that Tactical Squads will be one of the ones that does so to a drastic amount. It would be perfectly sensible to presume that they will go up by the average price increases - let's say 10%, since no one has any figures I may as well pull one out of my arse. That'd make a tactical squad £25.30. Fairly expensive yes, but not "omgwtf" expensive like Land Raiders or Valkyries.

If it stays with the 10-man box, I would expect it to increase to around the £30 to £35 mark, given that the last couple of army releases have seen prices lifted worldwide to come more in line with Australian pricing.

Your £25.30 would be more likely for a 5-man box, since that's about the price of the 5-man Combat Squad box in Australia now.

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
If we're using that logic then there are far more boxes that did not double in price than did. I could take Deamon Flamers as an example and claim that GW were lowering prices and I'd be flamed into oblivion, you can't take two isolated price increased and claim that that is a trend that GW are adhering too when they simply are not.

I'm not saying that it's a trend. I'm saying that it wouldn't be particularly surprising, based on previous actions.

You don't think that tactical squads being their best selling box, in the most popular army, that's specifically aimed at newcomers, is important? Dire Avengers presumably went up in cost because they were selling so few that the line simply wasn't profitable as it was - hence why the other eldar boxes did *not* go up in price, as they presumably were. Tactical Squads are insanely popular, which is why increasing the price would be so risky.

If it stays with the 10-man box, I would expect it to increase to around the £30 to £35 mark, given that the last couple of army releases have seen prices lifted worldwide to come more in line with Australian pricing.

Your £25.30 would be more likely for a 5-man box, since that's about the price of the 5-man Combat Squad box in Australia now.

I didn't follow price increases in sixth. I don't know what the average increase in price of troop sections in Demons, Chaos, Tau and Eldar but I suspect it's not the 30-40% you're speculating.

 insaniak wrote:

 BryllCream wrote:
... their pricing strategy seems to be keeping troops reasonably priced, while charging top dolla for the more powerful/rare units..

Again, the nearly doubling in price of Imperial Guard and Ork basic troops belies this idea.

fething this, I'm sorry but $30 USD for 10 guys? Yea I get it, we have some bits in there, like vox packs, flamers, and some grenades, but thats it. Guardsmen kits are good, but not 30 dollars good. 3 dollars per guardsman is highway robbery.