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SOLD SOLD SOLD!!!
all my money is yours

To date, the Warzone Kickstarter is the only one I've thrown money at. This very well may be the next.

I would like to ask a little behind the scenes question though - were some new sculptors/writers hired for this, and will it otherwise change the timelines for future Warzone stuff? I'd like to see both games get their due.

This should be popular, will be racing to back this.

Certainly an interesting project

but the big question (if you want to actually game with this) is how long they've got the licence tied down for (1 year, 2, 5, 10?)

Products licenced from big movie studios tend to be pretty short term (and if successful tend to end up with raised licence fees possibly leading to the licence not being renewed)

 Brother SRM wrote:
To date, the Warzone Kickstarter is the only one I've thrown money at. This very well may be the next.

I would like to ask a little behind the scenes question though - were some new sculptors/writers hired for this, and will it otherwise change the timelines for future Warzone stuff? I'd like to see both games get their due.

What's the connection to Warzone? Forgive my ignorance...

My first reaction: wow: !!

I hope they follow the Dark Horse comics with this, rather than the movies, although perhaps it won't matter that much - some of the concepts in the film were quite cool, aside from the film itself being a steaming pile of toss.

 RiTides wrote:

 Brother SRM wrote:
To date, the Warzone Kickstarter is the only one I've thrown money at. This very well may be the next.

I would like to ask a little behind the scenes question though - were some new sculptors/writers hired for this, and will it otherwise change the timelines for future Warzone stuff? I'd like to see both games get their due.

What's the connection to Warzone? Forgive my ignorance...

Prodos is behind the recent re- re- re-release of Warzone.

If I were interested in AvP minis and if it does turn out to be an AVP mini/game KS, I'd be wary of backing it. After all, many people still haven't gotten their Warzone KS minis yet. And resurrecting a system means a lot more than making a KS release and calling it a day. Remember, if they do neglect WZR, they may as well abandon the next game as well...

Of course, this is all unsubstiantiated hate because I'm jealous of their financial success

Any chance someone can post up a pic for those of us work blocked?

They beat me to it. I so wanted to make a AVP skirmish game. Oh well, ya snooze ya looze

I'll be getting in on this one for sure.. thank goodness for credit cards.

 Fishboy wrote:
Any chance someone can post up a pic for those of us work blocked?

It's an Imageshack link, so I wouldn't think it'd be blocked, but rehosted for your convenience:

Perfect and thanks!!!

Regarding Warzone fulfillment, here's the relevant text from an update posted the day before this thread was started:

Warzone: "Update on Status wrote:I am happy to announce that over 75 of our packages have made it out the door, so are with pledgers already and some of the models have even been painted!

We are continuing the process and focus on shipping and still expect the vast majority of parcels to be out this month.

All the Models (except Heavies) are now in production including Nozaki and the Hatamoto. The Addon packs are being printed now and the Heavies and Sculpture are in process. (See the Update file below).

I'll be Very interested in hearing how the model quality is from those who were in on that campaign, and of course hearing if they really do fulfill the "vast majority" of pledges this month. It would give me a lot more confidence in dealing with them, since previously I'd never heard of this company before.

The Warzone page says there are "plastic" troops, does anyone know specifically what is used for them- PVC I'd assume (like Privateer Press)? Please update with any knowledge on that since it will likely be very relevant here

It's all resin,

they tried plastic (of unknown type) but weren't happy with the quality it gave them

Hand-cast resin like McVey's / Kingdom Death's boutique models? Or "plesin / restic" like Privateer Press' models?

not restic....

as to whether the resin they're using is hand cast or spin cast I'm not sure

(and I've not got my few bits from this KS to make any judgements on quality yet.... the pictures of what we've been told is the stuff look good so far though

I am still waiting for my pledge, so I cannot comment on the type of resin, but from what the Prodos guys have said, it is not going to be like the one FW uses. It is supposed to be more flexible. There is minimum a month more (I hope not much more) until I get my pledge, so when I do get the minis in my hands I will be able to tell you more

To be more specific we use urethane plastic for our models, no restic, no pure resin. (in general liquid plastic)

In therm of quality, here are some youtube reviews :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfRCLP-urDI

and
http://toomuchmetal.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/warzone-resurrection-kickstarter-arrives.html

and

http://ishisimperium.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/warzone-ressurection-is-here.html?spref=fb

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKEg4O6IUjw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GplB-hsq0o

Wow, the quality looks amazing. When will a few models be available for sale so I could place a test order?

 judgedoug wrote:
Wow, the quality looks amazing. When will a few models be available for sale so I could place a test order?

Go to warzonegame.com we are on the final stages of preorder at the moment, but if you ordered you should expect your order dispatched within the next 2-4 weeks

I'm sceptic. Maybe they are starting to many projects. I hope they won't bankrupt like Target Games did. I'm not going to support this project, I play to many games now.

Pak0 wrote:
I'm sceptic. Maybe they are starting to many projects. I hope they won't bankrupt like Target Games did. I'm not going to support this project, I play to many games now.

I am a bit skeptical about the ability of a relatively brand new company to handle 2 major intellectual properties, however so far they have handled Warzone very well. We do not have rule books yet but the quick start rules they created are fun and intuitive and make a great game, I am hopeful that (Aliens) vs/& (Predator) *whichever* IP it is turns out just as good as Warzone.

Am I the only person looking at the Warmill ship corridors/interiors, and thinking what it would look like painted as the colony habitat on LV-426?

To be honest even if the game sucks I will still probably have to buy the mins just to keep my son happy

What I really, really, really want to know is whether this is officially licensed.

Warzone was official, right? I'd be surprised if a company did one official line and another unofficial right after... but confirmation would be great, of course.

Mutant Chronicles is nowhere near the level of this, however. Among other things, this franchise is foundational in the same sense as SW or Dune. You can line-toe on the big boy licenses, a la genestealers for umpteen years now. This thread, where the products are knowingly teased as AvP would be a great exhibit in an infringement trial, however. If I was marketing for a company like Prodos, I would be clear from the start if I didn't have the license for that very reason.

primalexile wrote:

Pak0 wrote:
I'm sceptic. Maybe they are starting to many projects. I hope they won't bankrupt like Target Games did. I'm not going to support this project, I play to many games now.

I am a bit skeptical about the ability of a relatively brand new company to handle 2 major intellectual properties, however so far they have handled Warzone very well. We do not have rule books yet but the quick start rules they created are fun and intuitive and make a great game, I am hopeful that (Aliens) vs/& (Predator) *whichever* IP it is turns out just as good as Warzone.

Yeah, it does seem a wee bit early. That said, despite delays, their handling of Warzone has been quite awesome so far and they are already sending out initial orders for it. So give another few months to fulfill Warzone and this wouldn't seem too out of place. Especially if it is something more self-contained (something Space Hulk-esque even) than a full wargame line. I'd almost definitely hope for a Kickstarter on this one though, that, and this is definitely one where I'd love to see them go for polystyrene since I can see this being a big draw for almost any sci-fi gamer (I will have a hard time resisting getting some Colonial Marines if the price is right).

So after seeing how they've gone through Warzone, I am not too worried here. I just wonder when they'll have time to sleep. If they run a KS, it will likely do quite well (and probably be ideal so it doesn't cut in to WZ too much). Since they mostly hire freelancers, a new game line shouldn't really impact a previous one in this case, so long as they price everything out well and don't overstep their budget in either line.

RiTides wrote:Warzone was official, right? I'd be surprised if a company did one official line and another unofficial right after... but confirmation would be great, of course.

Yup, Warzone was done 100% through Paradox, the owner of the rights to all things Mutant Chronicles/Warzone. And the relatively tight-lipped nature of this one has me thinking they may have another license on their hands. It was the same deal back in February when they were winding up to announce Warzone. They couldn't divulge too much because everything had to be OK'd by the guys they were licensing from (likely 20th Century Fox in this case). So most likely this is just a signal that they were given the green light to start hinting at us.

Either way, if this is another license, that is pretty ambitious right out of the gate. I wish 'em luck if it is.

But either way, I hope any potential KS for this is a ways off because I am so bloody broke right now. So please, Prodos, give me a chance to heal my poor bank account.

I've been wanting half-decent Aliens minis for awhile now- If this is a kickstarter I may go in pretty big just for them. The Predator and Marines I could care less about.(Although I do remember enjoying the Predator novels)

 Pierzak wrote:
If I were interested in AvP minis and if it does turn out to be an AVP mini/game KS, I'd be wary of backing it. After all, many people still haven't gotten their Warzone KS minis yet. And resurrecting a system means a lot more than making a KS release and calling it a day. Remember, if they do neglect WZR, they may as well abandon the next game as well...

Of course, this is all unsubstiantiated hate because I'm jealous of their financial success

Meh, as long as the figures are great, it could be worth backing on the basis of the figures alone. Warzone is a line of figures pretty strongly linked to one series of rules. However, there's a long line of Alien and Colonial marines figures (both licensed and "not") as well as many different rulesets that have been heavily influenced by Aliens.

For my $, cupporting an Aliens kickstarter is much more dependent on the figs than rules. There's plenty of options for rules, but there hasn't been a line of plastic figs (not couting clix) that capture this subject matter.

There have been alot of metal and resin options though...
Xenomorphs
http://dawnofthelead.com/2010/10/19/alien-miniatures-a-review/
Colonial Marines
http://dawnofthelead.com/2011/03/25/colonial-marine-miniatures-a-review/
Predators
http://dawnofthelead.com/2010/08/11/predator-miniatures-a-review/

Despite all those, I think that a cohesive range of models, in plastic, and as accurate to the subject matter as only a licensed product can be, has the potential to surpass all of the options presently available. I will be watching with considerable interest.