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**Glaiceana**

azreal13 wrote:
Glaiceana wrote:

On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean? Seen people say it a lot, does it mean their army has a lot of cliche models? Or that it just isn't a good list?

To try and give a more concise answer..

Cheese is using something which is legal within the rules, but not exactly sporting. It normally occurs via either fielding multiple units which are too powerful for their points cost, or exploiting a particular set of rules interactions. Two common examples would be Imperial Guard fielding many fliers, or daemons being able to give a unit a 2+ re-rollable invulnerable save.

What an individual deems cheesy tends to vary with their approach to the game (ie 'casual' players generally cry cheese a lot more often than 'competitive' players)

It is generally a byproduct of GW's wooly rules writing and lax play testing, so it is most prevalent, but not necessarily limited to, Warhammer and 40K.

Ah, thank you for explaining.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Glaiceana wrote:
On a sort of side note, when someone calls someone's army "cheesy", what does that actually mean?

Calling an army cheesy is a form of cognitive dissonance ie. "I lost, therefore the army I fought was broken in some way and that caused me to lose. I did nothing wrong."

Only if you decide the list is Cheesy after its defeated you.

Whereas declaring a list Cheesy based on the min-maxing of units you perceive to be broken and OP, before you play it is not. I've not played Trip-Tide Tau lists or 4 Heldrake lists but I still think they sound cheesy.

**Eilif**

Wow, stories like this make me glad to game with a club at member's homes. If someone pulled any meanness, unsportsmanlike behavior, ranting, or throwing, they would quickly be ejected and not invited back.

3 years of this gentlemanly gaming has quite spoiled me.

**KTG17**

You know, this reminds me of something just the opposite, in that same gaming group I mentioned above, we had a game back in 40k 2nd edition between two of us playing Ultramarines, against two others playing Chaos. We were playing with a bunker, and my friend showed up with I gak you not, 4 Bloodthirsters. We always kept our armies secret till game day, so we never knew what the other would bring (we just set the points) and we were like oh crap. I think our strategy card enabled us to move a unit ahead before the start of the game, and we chose our Terminators thinking that maybe they could hold off this daemon rush in CC in time for the rest of our guys to pick off his army. The Terminators got swamped by a ton of lesser daemons and went down much quicker than we expected, but, he lost 3 Bloodthirsters to heavy weapons trying to rush at us. Finally he reached our bunker with the last one and brought the whole thing down killing most of the guys in it.

I was thinking how a player could have stormed off over the Terminators, and worse losing 3 of 4 Bloodthirsters charging across the board, which were not only pricey models, but also cost a lot in points, but we loved it. It was gutsy, exciting, and nerve wracking as they approached. And the Ultramarines prevailed I believe, but I can't be sure. I know we managed to kill off the last Bloodthirster once he was within our lines.

But these games can be like a story unfolding if you dont take it personally. To get so pissed off over a game is just so dumb to me. It says alot about some of the idiots who show up to play these games.

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I remember listening to a guy who thought 5 man Space Marine squads were cheesy. I don't know why. I hate the idea of 10-man Space Marine squads everywhere. I prefer smaller games anyway.

**Glaiceana**

Ramshackle_Curtis wrote:My friend was painting a rhino with soem forge world bits on it. He got a finger pprint on the paint, so hurled the model at the concrete floor and stormed out. It smashed into many small bits that went flying all over the room. Never found it all.

Yeah there seems to be a lot of cases of people breaking their own models. At least in those cases no one else's stuff gets damaged, and they still only have themselves to blame lol.

KTG17 wrote:Many years ago I was at a gaming convention and I signed up for a Wahammer Fantasy Battles game for noobs. I dont remember which edition it was (it had to be an early one). But it was 3 on 3 (basically we had a formation or two each) and in the first game a guy showed up with his own army (the game host had all the minis for everyone who didnt - and most of us used what he provided). Anyway, he lined up his formation up in one line (as opposed to ranks), and even after the game host stated if he failed a check that close to the table edge, they all would retreat off the board. Sure enough, in a round or two a couple minis from one of our opponents managed to reach his line, beat a sngle guy in the line in combat, he failed some roll, and off his entire group went. He was livid and threw all his minis into is box and stormed off. I was like, wow.

It was really my only time playing WFB and to be honest I havent played it since. It was a fun day, I played another game, but it wasnt something I wanted to invest a lot of my own money into.

But I think back on that guy, and others like him, and I think people react this way due to a few of reasons:

1) People seem to bond with their armies - They make personal choices in the troops they buy, and spend ALOT money and time building and painting them - far more than they play, and so to see a particular group get wacked prob hurts their ego (In my case I always had a terrible time with my Striking Scorpions, which I refuse to bother with today, and I spent so much time painting those guys cause I really like the models, but had really bad luck with them to the point I stopped using them.

2) People have a hard time with rules - Even in my case, I don't remember everything, nor spend a lot of time on what my opponents armies can do, so sometimes I am taken back by a skill a unit might have, where I am like, 'man had I known that' but I blame my own ignorance on that. Others prob think its BS, which is unjust.

3) And finally, just because you know the rules, doesnt mean you are good at tactics. In my own gaming group, I was practically undefeated in Adeptus Titanicus/Epic Space Marine, where I was good at strategy on a bigger scale, yet routinely got my ass handed to me at 40k, which is more tactical than strategical. You would think if I could manage hundreds of minis I could be fine with 30, but I wasnt. I think people's minds are just better at some things and others, and can't handle not being Patton at every game they play. And of course, there is always the luck of the dice, who many people can't handle either.

Those reasons are very true. I can understand how people can get very attached to their models, and yes not to mention the money spent. But still, with the accounts of full grown men actually screaming and crying over lost battles, they really should know better it is still a game in the end, someons HAS to lose, and plus, you're meant to be having fun.

**jbunny**

I was playing an Ork player back in 3rd ed and i was using my Blood Angels. She did not have much experience with the rules and since every time i shot her units they did not get any saves so models were just removed from the table. As the game continued she got pissed, and started picking up her models by the handful and slamming them into her box. Arms and heads would fly in different directions.

Now, i might throw a dice (small ones) across the room after lots of bad rolls, but the worst I ever did was when i guy was cheating in a tournament. We all called him Cheater Bob for a reason. This was 4th or 5th, not sure but my Blood Angels fell back and at the start of my turn regrouped thanks to ATSKNF. i start to move forward as normal, and he starts to question the rule. After reading him the rule and allowing him to read the rule he still argued i was wrong.

Finally after a few mins, i started cursing him loudly and made some very personal attacks on him. not my finest moment but the TO agreed with my ruling, and even told Bob that he was purposefully misreading the rule to gain an advantage.

**pities2004**

paulson games wrote:
Last edition; first shot of the game was from my landraider against my opponents killa kan which I got very lucky with resulting in an explosion result. He hadn't moved yet and so his forces were packed pretty densely. The explosion hits a ton of infantry and one of his trucks which are consumed as well. I'm trying hard not to crack up as his forehead vein starts throbbing and he turns a distinct shade of purple. He loses about 1/3rd of his force including his boss and proceeds to flip his lid. He howls really loudly and swings his arm across the table literally sweeping his remaining force off the table and all over my floor. (breaking quite a few of his models in the process)

A separate game my brother is playing the same d-bag (this time at his house) and his ork warboss totally whiffs in a charge rolling all ones against some vanilla marines. He rages and proceeds to "punish" his metal warbosses failure by pounding the model into his dining table with his hard cover rulesbook. He keeps pounding away until he's ripped completely through the rear cover and about 10-15 pages, there's also a nice warboss shaped dent in the table. He then throws the book and storms off upstairs while crying. Despite the behavior of this guy is a grown man in his mid 30's. Needless to say we never game against him anymore.

My personal rage moment was playing a really long game of bad company with hard core death match, due to a lag issue he knifed me despite having unloaded an entire magazine into my last opponent which caused me to throw my controller and it broke a picture and damaged the left joystick so the L3 button no longer works.

I would of paid hundreds of dollars to witness this epic freak out.

I had a buddy Jon, back in 4th edition, we were playing Eldar vs space marines and he advanced some guardians onto my 5 man tactical squad, he had over 80 shots go into that one unit, and the results I lost nothing, every space marine was fine.

He preceded to put his arm on the table and swept his entire army against the wall in nerd rage fashion, eldar went flying everywhere

My response " Does this mean I win?"

**crazyredpraetorian**

+I had a customer that played IG. He used 3 cubes of different colored dice for faster rolling, etc. I always kept his dice colors in stock because if he was having a bad dice day with enough prodding (and it didn't take much), he would take his dice outside, pull a sledge hammer out of his truck and proceed to smash all 108 dice. It was quite a show and the whole group got a kick out of it. His brother used to agitate him on purpose to see how many times he could make him go into nerd rage mode.

**Shadow Captain Edithae**

Sounds like that was a nice little earner for you.

**Glaiceana**

crazyredpraetorian wrote:
+I had a customer that played IG. He used 3 cubes of different colored dice for faster rolling, etc. I always kept his dice colors in stock because if he was having a bad dice day with enough prodding (and it didn't take much), he would take his dice outside, pull a sledge hammer out of his truck and proceed to smash all 108 dice. It was quite a show and the whole group got a kick out of it. His brother used to agitate him on purpose to see how many times he could make him go into nerd rage mode.

Well, I feel sorry for the dice xD But yeah I guess he could just buy some more from you

**Ironwill13791**

At the last tournament I judged, I had a grown man slam both fists up and down on a table, while yelling profanities, like a child because of a couple key bad rolls....in a game he was winning, an argument over floored dice on a scatter roll (understandable due to outside circumstances), an illegal list, and a player A calling out (profanities and all) another player for sneaking around to get a DQ on player A for player A's illegal list. And a generally large amount of complaining to boot. I think only a single player, by the end of the day, was left still acting decently despite everything. That was a rough day for me.

I have also seen a player flip out because....wait for it...2 guardsman died in a single shooting phase out of about 100 of them. You should have seen the reaction when my talos (I was already clearly losing at this point) and incubi/archon squad hit his lines (in 5th edition). Guardsman were just getting chucked at the box.

**Glaiceana**

pities2004 wrote:
paulson games wrote:
Last edition; first shot of the game was from my landraider against my opponents killa kan which I got very lucky with resulting in an explosion result. He hadn't moved yet and so his forces were packed pretty densely. The explosion hits a ton of infantry and one of his trucks which are consumed as well. I'm trying hard not to crack up as his forehead vein starts throbbing and he turns a distinct shade of purple. He loses about 1/3rd of his force including his boss and proceeds to flip his lid. He howls really loudly and swings his arm across the table literally sweeping his remaining force off the table and all over my floor. (breaking quite a few of his models in the process)

A separate game my brother is playing the same d-bag (this time at his house) and his ork warboss totally whiffs in a charge rolling all ones against some vanilla marines. He rages and proceeds to "punish" his metal warbosses failure by pounding the model into his dining table with his hard cover rulesbook. He keeps pounding away until he's ripped completely through the rear cover and about 10-15 pages, there's also a nice warboss shaped dent in the table. He then throws the book and storms off upstairs while crying. Despite the behavior of this guy is a grown man in his mid 30's. Needless to say we never game against him anymore.

My personal rage moment was playing a really long game of bad company with hard core death match, due to a lag issue he knifed me despite having unloaded an entire magazine into my last opponent which caused me to throw my controller and it broke a picture and damaged the left joystick so the L3 button no longer works.

I would of paid hundreds of dollars to witness this epic freak out.

I had a buddy Jon, back in 4th edition, we were playing Eldar vs space marines and he advanced some guardians onto my 5 man tactical squad, he had over 80 shots go into that one unit, and the results I lost nothing, every space marine was fine.

He preceded to put his arm on the table and swept his entire army against the wall in nerd rage fashion, eldar went flying everywhere

My response " Does this mean I win?"

Yeah I would have loved to see that freak out too xD When you were talking about it I assumed the guy was randomly 14 or something, not mid 30s lol.
A lot of these cases seem more just like anger management issues. I mean sure, I've slammed my hand down in a couple of moments in some computer games, maybe swore a bit depending on what happened, but it's rare, I doubt I would ever rage with a 40k game etc, and especially wouldn't be damaging my models.

**timetowaste85**

I did threaten to throw my bloodthirster against a wall when it landed in terrain and proceeded to roll 1's across the board for landing, re-roll from Kairos, and the move through cover rolls (if memory serves correctly). He rolled 4 1's in a row and splattered himself (he was on his last wound). Thankfully, my slaaneshi princes rocked the game.

**Glaiceana**

timetowaste85 wrote:
I did threaten to throw my bloodthirster against a wall when it landed in terrain and proceeded to roll 1's across the board for landing, re-roll from Kairos, and the move through cover rolls (if memory serves correctly). He rolled 4 1's in a row and splattered himself (he was on his last wound). Thankfully, my slaaneshi princes rocked the game.

A close call to the end of a model

**notprop**

I got a bit grumpy playing Monopoly on holiday once.

The Mrs and other-in-Law were definitely colluding though - selling good property for peanuts to each other while trying to charge me £1000 for Pall Mall. Rage inducing indeed!

**curran12**

notprop wrote:
I got a bit grumpy playing Monopoly on holiday once.

The Mrs and other-in-Law were definitely colluding though - selling good property for peanuts to each other while trying to charge me £1000 for Pall Mall. Rage inducing indeed!

That's Monopoly man, if you are not in a murderous rage by the end of it, you aren't playing it right.

Love that game. :3

**Locclo**

Mine comes from a long, long time ago, back when I was first starting Space Wolves and my friend was still using my Tau models as a proxy Necron army (he didn't have the money to even think about starting a real army). We played a game, I think it was about 1850 points, him running three monoliths and a bunch of Necron Warriors, me running a handful of Space Wolves in Rhinos with a squad of Wolf Guard Terminators and Logan Grimnar in a Land Raider.

Game starts, I get the first move, I roll up 12" and pop my smoke. He spends his entire turn trying to shoot down my Land Raider, and fails (bearing in mind that this was when he had to blow off all of its weapons and immobilize it, no hull points yet). I think he managed to destroy a gun and shake it like crazy, but nothing else. Next turn, I roll up another 12", pile everyone out, and assault one of his units, a massive blob of Warriors. It might have been two units, but the important thing is that it was a huge unit, and it had two HQs attached to it.

As one might expect, my Terminators turned the Warriors into a gray, oily paste, and they started running. I consolidated into range so that they couldn't regroup (again, 5th Edition rules), and they ran off the board. Now the game has been going on for two turns and he's out two HQs and a ton of Warriors, and unless he starts running, I'm going to get him to phase out in the next couple of turns. He considered things for a moment (for the life of me I can't recall whether he thought the Monolith's weapon was only AP3, or if he simply didn't think they would be able to take out Terminators with shields), then quit in a spectacular fashion by flinging some of my Tau models across the table.

There was another game where we were using some weird rules, and he literally kicked a wall in frustration after losing the roll for first turn (which seems really silly, but we basically had every unit within 12" of each other on the first turn, so I was going to be in range of assaulting him on turn one). And of course...the match wound up being a draw.

You can imagine why I don't enjoy playing against him. He is by far one of the sorest losers I've ever encountered.

**Necros**

I only ragequit video games.. like call of doodie, when kids with reflexes murderize me when I'm only 1 pixel tall on their kill cam and I never see em coming.

I've never ragequiited 40k, because I lose every game so I'm used to it now.

**-Loki-**

I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

**MrMoustaffa**

The worst I've ever had was getting caught in between two players in a heated rules argument when I was trying to mind my business and talk to someone.

Bear in mind, I hadn't played a game in 6 months, didn't have the foggiest idea of how either of their armies worked (nids and Dark Angels) and didn't have a great grasp of 6th ed to begin with. I also wasn't a big fan of these two players as they had both been getting on my nerves lately, so my patience was thin to begin with.

And here they were asking me to settle every issue that came up, which was roughly every 10 minutes about completely asinine rules that had no real impact on the game. After the 4th time I saw they had a rulebook RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. It took everything I had not to smack them both silly with that 15lb hardback.

**Ironwill13791**

-Loki- wrote:
I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

HE PUT YOUR BROTHER'S CHAPLAIN IN HIS MOUTH?!?!?

If that were me, I would have said "You just bought yourself my Chaplain. I want a replacement because I don't want that one back.". That is a very strange reaction to a game event.

**FOGsnake**

All these stories kinda depress me cause im a new starting warhammer 40k who is only building up army currently just trying to get some few essentials that my friends are telling me imam need and its sad that people rage that hardcore over this game I love warhammer 40k cause of the books and games they have hopefully I don't play anyone like that cause I might like freak or something watching the figures break and dice getting smashed that or id bust out laughing and get a rage beat down from them if they touch my figures though they die that's all I have to say. lol

**-Loki-**

FOGsnake wrote:
All these stories kinda depress me cause im a new starting warhammer 40k who is only building up army currently just trying to get some few essentials that my friends are telling me imam need and its sad that people rage that hardcore over this game I love warhammer 40k cause of the books and games they have hopefully I don't play anyone like that cause I might like freak or something watching the figures break and dice getting smashed that or id bust out laughing and get a rage beat down from them if they touch my figures though they die that's all I have to say. lol

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**FOGsnake**

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**motyak**

FOGsnake wrote:
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**FOGsnake**

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**BobtheInquisitor**

curran12 wrote:
That's Monopoly man, if you are not in a murderous rage by the end of it, you aren't playing it right.

Sigged, good sir!

The only way I can sit through monopoly is if we use some of my minis so I can at least pretend it's an enjoyable activity. Until the blood flows, of course.

**MrDwhitey**

Apparently the reason Monopoly is so bad/rage inducing is simply because everyone plays the rules wrong! (or so /r/boardgames keeps telling me).

Not because it's a terrible, cut-throat game of evil.

**troa**

No no no, Monopoly causes rage because whoever is winning tends to landslide, and no one else can come back. >.>

**Glaiceana**

-Loki- wrote:I haven't really had any rage stories, but one my brother had was funny.

He was playing against a store manager on a slow day. His Chaplain kept tearing through the managers squads, and when he finally killed it, he picked it up, screamed, and put it in his mouth. And kept it in there for the rest of the game, talking with it clamped between his teeth like a cigar. Game ended, and the manager gave the chaplain back.

The chaplain got thrown in the bin.

Well, that's pretty weird, I knew someone who bit their game controllers when they raged, maybe kind of the same sort of reaction? XD

MrMoustaffa wrote:The worst I've ever had was getting caught in between two players in a heated rules argument when I was trying to mind my business and talk to someone.

Bear in mind, I hadn't played a game in 6 months, didn't have the foggiest idea of how either of their armies worked (nids and Dark Angels) and didn't have a great grasp of 6th ed to begin with. I also wasn't a big fan of these two players as they had both been getting on my nerves lately, so my patience was thin to begin with.

And here they were asking me to settle every issue that came up, which was roughly every 10 minutes about completely asinine rules that had no real impact on the game. After the 4th time I saw they had a rulebook RIGHT IN FRONT OF THEM. It took everything I had not to smack them both silly with that 15lb hardback.

Haha, yeah that does sound pretty annoying, they just want someone else to sort their problems out, problems they are making and could easily solve by checking the weapons grade rule book in front of them

MrDwhitey wrote:Apparently the reason Monopoly is so bad/rage inducing is simply because everyone plays the rules wrong! (or so /r/boardgames keeps telling me).

Not because it's a terrible, cut-throat game of evil.

Yeah monopoly only seems to really escalate due to cheating or from someone just getting way too lucky at the start and no one can compete after that.