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Vallejo, CA

tommse wrote:People who keep fiddling around with their smart phones on my turn. That´s just rude. If you don´t wanna play, then simply don´t.

Ugh. This.

I can get past people who can only think in logical fallacies, and people who have riper odors or greasy fingers (so long as they don't touch my stuff), and even people with kids, because, hey, you don't always get a sitter, and kid's gotta learn sometime.

But if you've got your phone out, that means you're paying attention to your phone. I never, in any way believe people when they claim that they can use their phone and do other things at the same time, as if the phone is merely filling in the excess brain power that they wouldn't have been using if they were interacting with me. You can not drive while texting on your phone. You can not hold a conversation with someone while you're reading something on the internet. It doesn't matter how much you think you can. You can't.

The point of 40k (among other things) is to interact with people. If you're not interacting with me, you're not playing 40k with me. If you're on your phone, you aren't interacting with me. You're on your phone, interacting with your phone. You can do that at home to as much compulsive excess as you want, but when you're here, you've got to be here. It's even worse than when I see people texting while at the movie theatre - at least there they're only wasting their own time and money instead of also mine.

Thankfully, I haven't really had to deal with this as most of the people in my gaming group are over the age of 25 and so have either learned or developed basic courtesy.

In the end, my only recourse can be the same as the unwashed and unrhetorical - a sense of compassionate pity - but with the phone, it's compassionate pity mixed with grinding irritation.



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 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
My no.1 pet peeve is (sorry guys) smokers.


I would never even consider playing against a guy who smokes.

If they want to kill themselves, fine with me, but they are sure as hell not going to drag me down with them.

Aside from that, I am in a decent enough meta and no peeves leap to mind.


huh?

you automatically lose points for using the trite gamer-isms: balanced, meta, Mat Ward, etc. 
   
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My peeve is when people just wander off. There's this one guy at my store who'll wander off at the start of a game come back at the end and then start demanding I kill him.

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New York

My top 3 are:

1. Unclean/Poor Hygeine - Nurgle armies are cool, but real life Nurgle worshipers are not.

2. Walking away from the table during a game. At my first tournament, I had to play against a kid who looked to be around 14 years old and played Dark Angels. This would have been fine, but he kept running off (during both of our turns) to go speak to his father (playing Orks on the other end of the room), to ask him for tactical advice... In 2.5 hours, we barely finished the third turn.

3. People touching my models/codex without my consent. I am fine with you flipping through it, but don't rip it out my hands because you think you can find a rule faster than I can (how my first Ork codex was torn up). That same player also broke my Battlewagon by dropping it. I've never seen or played against him since and still don't have the all of my Battlewagon pieces.

Additionally, but less prominently, are the relatively careless typos, especially Dark/Blood Angles. There is no Legio Mathematica!
   
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I have two pet peeves, really.

1. People who play cheese lists in a casual setting. In the gaming club I'm a part of we have 1 such guy (who is also my friend). He is 1 of 2 Tau players we have at the club but he is the only person who builds cheese into his list. Just last meet he was going on about how we have not chance of defeating him because h had included some cheese unit, even though no one has defeated him yet.

I have no problem cheese-wise with anyone else. The other Tau player doesn't build cheese lists, it's just that he is an extremely good player.

I should note that because of this player a few of us have started to find some powerful (but not cheese-worthy) builds to try and counter him, for example me with grimoired seekers. Powerful but not cheese.


2. Terrain-Haters.I love terrain, and I love the way a board looks when it is covered in terrain. I don't mean covered as in a few bits here or there, or that there is no room to move, but with a healthy amount. There are a few people I know who set up the board to have no cover, or at least no usable cover (edges of the table, etc.) just so they can go 'see, terrain!'. The boards just look, when, terrible to me without terrain and since I play an army with next to no guns (daemons) I'm always at a bit of a disadvantage (for 1-2 turns, seeming I always deploy my fast units on the board)
   
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 Dr. What wrote:
There is no Legio Mathematica!

There totally should be. It'd be a bunch of really old men who weaponize math on the battle field to kill things.
   
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And Hygiene: Sorry smokers, but I include you in this statement, since you should carry a small can of fabreeze, and every other ripe person, Take a shower

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 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
My no.1 pet peeve is (sorry guys) smokers.


I would never even consider playing against a guy who smokes.

If they want to kill themselves, fine with me, but they are sure as hell not going to drag me down with them.

Aside from that, I am in a decent enough meta and no peeves leap to mind.


It's ok we don't want to play with you either.

Btw did I miss something? Where are all these GWs and FLGSs that let you smoke inside? And here I've been hacking darts between games like a god damn sucker.

Thought for the day
 
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Dr. What wrote:
There is no Legio Mathematica!

There totally should be. It'd be a bunch of really old men who weaponize math on the battle field to kill things.
I'd play the hell out of such an army!
   
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Vallejo, CA

Las wrote:Btw did I miss something? Where are all these GWs and FLGSs that let you smoke inside? And here I've been hacking darts between games like a god damn sucker.

I'm a little curious about this as well. The smokers at our FLGS go outside to do their smoking. There's no smoke that winds up in the store, and they generally don't come back smelling like smoke either.

In 5th edition, my foot guard army would take so long to deploy and move on the first turn of the game that it sort of became a running joke for opponents so inclined to take a smoke break in the beginning of the game. The question was what would happen first, I'd move all 160 guard models and get to the shooting phase or my opponent could nail an entire marlborough 100.


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*bursts though room with axe* HEEEAAARRRS JHONNY!!!

Gamers who brag: Yeah its cool that you won that game or that unit X can do a lot of things but you really don't have to rub it in. every. single. time.

Arrogant gamers.

Ignorant gamers.

TFG's.

WAAC's.

People who cover up their preferred style of gaming: if you want to play competitive just say so, instead of covering it up with excuses just so you could beat me at a game.

Gamers who cannot accept they are wrong on rules: For pete's sakes I just wanted to play a game not argue on how a certain rule works with you every 5 mins!

Just my pet peeves.

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 Grey Templar wrote:

Orks don't hate, they just love. Love to fight everyone.


Whatever you use.. It's Cheesy, broken and OP  
   
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People who b**ch about what I play.
"Oh you brought a Heldrake, you are such an @$$hole."
All it literally takes is politely asking someone to tone down there list, you don't need to go off on a rant about how cheesy there units are.
   
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 Las wrote:
 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
My no.1 pet peeve is (sorry guys) smokers.


I would never even consider playing against a guy who smokes.

If they want to kill themselves, fine with me, but they are sure as hell not going to drag me down with them.

Aside from that, I am in a decent enough meta and no peeves leap to mind.


It's ok we don't want to play with you either.

Btw did I miss something? Where are all these GWs and FLGSs that let you smoke inside? And here I've been hacking darts between games like a god damn sucker.


Smoking during the actual game, mind you.

If one wishes to smoke elsewhere, that is fine with me.

But smoking anywhere near the table is a no-no.

Luckily I have yet to enter such a situation, however.

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 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Dr. What wrote:
There is no Legio Mathematica!

There totally should be. It'd be a bunch of really old men who weaponize math on the battle field to kill things.
I'd play the hell out of such an army!

"Drive me closer Steven, I want to stab them with my Compass!"
   
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Hogtown

 happygolucky wrote:


Gamers who cannot accept they are wrong on rules: For pete's sakes I just wanted to play a game not argue on how a certain rule works with you every 5 mins!

Just my pet peeves.


I feel you on this. It especially sucks that I'm forced to concede 80% of the time because the alternative is having a prolonged argument with some troglodyte over a plastic fething space wizard.

Thought for the day
 
   
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There's one guy at our store who trash talks incessantly. It gets down to "your mom" jokes. He's pretty vocal about what he considers "cheese" and offers unwanted tactical and list building advice to everyone. If you disagree, he basically calls you stupid. Thing is, he doesn't actually play 40K anymore...he plays Warmachine, but he hovers around the 40K tables all day to heckle people.

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People who take the game far too seriously in whatever extremes, so when they win they showboat like crazy whereas in games where they lose they become incredibly pessimistic and whiny when they just have had bad case of the dice gods not favouring them. That and blaming their losses on their army and not on how they utilized their units improperly or optimizing their list efficiently. A sort of instant gratification mindset that many video gamers have in wanting to have instant access to whatever they wish with little effort.
   
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 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
 ClockworkZion wrote:
 Dr. What wrote:
There is no Legio Mathematica!

There totally should be. It'd be a bunch of really old men who weaponize math on the battle field to kill things.
I'd play the hell out of such an army!

"Drive me closer Steven, I want to stab them with my Compass!"

That sounds a bit like my math teacher...

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 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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Personally people who are unwilling to play an opponent because they were beat by them before, badly. Not due to that persons actions, just the fact that they are ssuch bad losers they don't want to ever do it again.
   
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Smoking in a game store sounds bazaar, I don't even think you can smoke in most buildings in the USA, I know a few states you can't even smoke in bars anymore.

I'm slightly guilty of the phone thing, but I have my lists on battlescribe which is on my phone, so if it's out it's 95% likely I'm double checking some stats or special rules for game purposes.

I'm fortunate to have a pretty chill local group so far. I think the only things that sometimes get me is playing suuuuuper slooooooow, or if you don't know what your guns do.


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Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto

 Las wrote:
 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
My no.1 pet peeve is (sorry guys) smokers.


I would never even consider playing against a guy who smokes.

If they want to kill themselves, fine with me, but they are sure as hell not going to drag me down with them.

Aside from that, I am in a decent enough meta and no peeves leap to mind.


It's ok we don't want to play with you either.

Btw did I miss something? Where are all these GWs and FLGSs that let you smoke inside? And here I've been hacking darts between games like a god damn sucker.


As I said, for me, it's made 100x worse because of my own issues;
a) my long history of head injuries.
b) no one in my entire family smokes.

And yes, even smoking outside, then coming right back in, everything about you just reeks of ciggy smoke.
At our newly re-opened GW, it's not as bad because it's one large open room. But at our local indie store where the tables are in private little gaming rooms it's horrible! Same as when at a tournament half the players it seems spend their time between games lighting up. (another reason why I don't play in many tourneys any more)

I'm simply extremely sensitive, just as I am with @$$holes who douse themselves in half the freaking can of Axe or perfume!

Now ironically, plain BO is only a mild annoyance, due to the fact I've spent 20+ years living in arenas playing/reffing hockey for 6+months of each year, coupled with a couple summers working as a camp councillor...
You don't know what BO is until you've had to line-up a dozen plus kids, open up with the hose while throwing bars of soap at them! Or goalie equipment so beyond Nurglefied that you banish your teammate to their own dressing room... at the opposite end of the damn area, just to avoid the smell! (there was a reason our defense sucked massively that year!)

But second hand smoke just floors me every freaking time.

 
   
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 gossipmeng wrote:
Players who don't know their own codex (and aren't knew to the game). I'm talking stats that are way off are a special rule that is used in a way which isn't even close to the intended purpose.


This. And if I can expand on the idea; people who are playing for a while yet don't know the basis rules. And I'm not talking about rarely used one (like tank rush; never got around in my meta that someone used that, if only once) but I'm talking about running in difficult terrain, assaulting in difficult terrain, can you move and fire a heavy weapon at full BS etc etc.

Asking me for stats of my models all the time.. Sure first couple of times we play, only normal you ask what's my guardsmen's toughness, what's the str/AP of my weapons (since you never played against guard before). After 10 or so games, if you still don't know that guardsmen are toughness 3 and lasguns are 3/-, don't be shocked when I start being impatient when it's the 7th time you asked me in a single turn. I don't have Chaos/tau troops, but I played against them enough that I know the stats of their weapons and their attributes of their basic troops

Those who don't tell the details (or well, specifications) of their list. The number of times I get wounds scored, and then get a "Oh those modes are actually toughness 5" or "Oh that wargear does XYZ over what I told you before the game" or "Those ignore cover actually" followed by a "sorry, I thought you knew" or "I told you 2 weeks ago (off handedly while talking about something else) I thought you'd remember it"

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A lot of the pet peeves that have already been mentioned would bother me also, but one that really bothers me that I have not seen... People who leave their stuff all over the table.
   
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Inquisitor Jex wrote:
 gossipmeng wrote:
Players who don't know their own codex (and aren't knew to the game). I'm talking stats that are way off are a special rule that is used in a way which isn't even close to the intended purpose.


This. And if I can expand on the idea; people who are playing for a while yet don't know the basis rules. And I'm not talking about rarely used one (like tank rush; never got around in my meta that someone used that, if only once) but I'm talking about running in difficult terrain, assaulting in difficult terrain, can you move and fire a heavy weapon at full BS etc etc.

Asking me for stats of my models all the time.. Sure first couple of times we play, only normal you ask what's my guardsmen's toughness, what's the str/AP of my weapons (since you never played against guard before). After 10 or so games, if you still don't know that guardsmen are toughness 3 and lasguns are 3/-, don't be shocked when I start being impatient when it's the 7th time you asked me in a single turn. I don't have Chaos/tau troops, but I played against them enough that I know the stats of their weapons and their attributes of their basic troops


This.

It's extremely frustrating knowing your opponents codex better than they do after a brief perusal of the unit entries. I can recollect the statline of almost every unit in my codex and I don't even use 50% of the entries.

Also annoys me when proxying gets out of hand. Sure, you want to try a unit before splashing out the funds, I get it. I start to wonder when you've decided that yes, this unit is worth it, why you're now proxying multiple of said unit and have yet to purchase anything.

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Along the same lines, I've only had it happen to me twice, but never again.

People who don't own their codex. I don't mean people who didn't spring for the hard-back limited edition, I mean people who don't have a copy of their codex AT ALL. Not even an illegal version.

One of the times I played against a person who didn't have their codex, the game took at least twice as long as it should have, as he had to keep borrowing the store's copy of the codex and, due to particularities of the locale, couldn't bring the book back into the gaming area. And, because the person didn't own the codex, they weren't very familiar with its contents, so they had to look up a LOT of stuff. Even if he didn't keep having to shuffle back and forth, this would have been annoying enough.

But it didn't stop there. Because he didn't own the codex, he didn't know it very well, which meant he made a gagillion mistakes. Worst of which was bringing a ~1300 point list to a 1000 point game because he was remembering points values as best as he could off the top of his head.

Yes, I'm more experienced now, so I'm more likely to know things about my opponent's codex than I was before, and yes, you don't strictly speaking need to have the codex on you (if you've already memorized it backwards and forwards, like I have after playing over 100 games with my guard codex). But if you don't have your codex, it is likely a sign that you have no idea whatsoever about what you're doing.

And if that's the case, just ask and I'd be happy to do a demo or a low points practice game or something. Showing up with your 1850 points of models for a regular pick up game having only given your codex a few brief skims while at your friend's house...

Ugh... it's going to be a long night.



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 BrotherHaraldus wrote:
Experiment 626 wrote:
My no.1 pet peeve is (sorry guys) smokers.


I would never even consider playing against a guy who smokes.

If they want to kill themselves, fine with me, but they are sure as hell not going to drag me down with them.

Aside from that, I am in a decent enough meta and no peeves leap to mind.

Meh, I've probably already got lung cancer from second hand smoke. Both my parents have smoked all my life, I actualy wash my clothes the night before going to GW so I don't smell like it.

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 Ailaros wrote:
Along the same lines, I've only had it happen to me twice, but never again.

People who don't own their codex. I don't mean people who didn't spring for the hard-back limited edition, I mean people who don't have a copy of their codex AT ALL. Not even an illegal version.

One of the times I played against a person who didn't have their codex, the game took at least twice as long as it should have, as he had to keep borrowing the store's copy of the codex and, due to particularities of the locale, couldn't bring the book back into the gaming area. And, because the person didn't own the codex, they weren't very familiar with its contents, so they had to look up a LOT of stuff. Even if he didn't keep having to shuffle back and forth, this would have been annoying enough.

But it didn't stop there. Because he didn't own the codex, he didn't know it very well, which meant he made a gagillion mistakes. Worst of which was bringing a ~1300 point list to a 1000 point game because he was remembering points values as best as he could off the top of his head.

Yes, I'm more experienced now, so I'm more likely to know things about my opponent's codex than I was before, and yes, you don't strictly speaking need to have the codex on you (if you've already memorized it backwards and forwards, like I have after playing over 100 games with my guard codex). But if you don't have your codex, it is likely a sign that you have no idea whatsoever about what you're doing.

And if that's the case, just ask and I'd be happy to do a demo or a low points practice game or something. Showing up with your 1850 points of models for a regular pick up game having only given your codex a few brief skims while at your friend's house...

Ugh... it's going to be a long night.




This has happened to me as well, it's very annoying. Like you, I took a bit of time and familiarised myself with my codex. Also like you I rarely have to reference it, yet I always bring it in case.

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I guarantee 90% of people in this thread do the stuff they're complaining about (barring the specific stories and smoking) and just don't realise it.

 
   
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 Zande4 wrote:
I guarantee 90% of people in this thread do the stuff they're complaining about (barring the specific stories and smoking) and just don't realise it.

No, I bathe before going to my FLGS, don't smoke, don't wear body sprays, and don't get loud or angry.
   
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 Zande4 wrote:
I guarantee 90% of people in this thread do the stuff they're complaining about (barring the specific stories and smoking) and just don't realise it.

You know what really bugs me? When my opponent, before they show up at the FLGS smears themselves in peanut butter and then makes blood sacrifices to Ashterai by slitting the throat of three male chickens and then smears the spatter pattern into the peanut butter to engrave sacred symbols into their chest and upper arms.

I have a peanut allergy. It's really inconsiderate.



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