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I think Ghazghkull and I think nerfed and useless because his cost is way too much for what he does (especially compared to a DLS MA Warboss).
He also seems to lack character with only one or two unique things (even his warlord trait can be copied!)

I think Ghazghkull's points should be as following based on a similar DLS MA Warboss:
Ghazkull Assessment: Warboss with extra WS (irrelevant cause DLS boosts), extra wound (pretty good with his EW, probably +10 points), extra initiative (almost useless because he has a PK), extra attack (pretty good, probably +15 like an attack squig), LD 9 is the same (Really? Ghazghkull doesn't even get 10!), EW (very effective probably +25), Prophet (very powerful for one turn, probably +40), cybork, bosspole, MA, (same) all in all this equals- 200, a whole 4 boyz overpriced. Then you realize that a DLS Warboss does pretty much all the same stuff, but better because of almost limitless rerolls! Any critiques on my math are appreciated!

For reference, comparable DLS Warboss:
MA Warboss with DLS, Cybork body, and Bosspole- 135

Well there's also the Lord Of War Thing, I just don't understand why he is one.

What is something Ghazghkull does better than a DLS MA Warboss except during his Waaagh?

It's no use to reduce his cost - he needs to be redone. Basically, all he brings now is EW and run for meganobz, 2++ once per game. That might be fine with bully boyz but...it's just not what Ghazzy should be imo. He needs his old run 6' back.

And he should buff orks instead of trying to be only a one turn beast

The 2+ invul save for one turn and EW is very big. he 2+ invul save is worth about 40 points, comparing it to the shadowfield.

 Lord Commissar wrote:
The 2+ invul save for one turn and EW is very big. he 2+ invul save is worth about 40 points, comparing it to the shadowfield.

Well, first of all, this save is connected to WAAAAAAAGH! and you use them both at once. And, trust me, you're not playing on your terms when you have so many points concentrated in one battlewagon. Secondly, he provides less than a DLS warboss in terms of buffing the boyz, choppiness and durability. You simply won't use his 2++ unless in challenge. And you got meks and nobs to take care of that. And he's almost 2 times more expensive.

With Ghazzy, the intention probably was that he'd make meganob rush more potent with run + charge. He might probably see use in a 3k+ list with bully boyz and a hell lot of wagonz. But not necesserely.

I think Ghazzy would be worth his points if he had a base 5++ save, and an ultimate boss rule where he got every single ork trait in the book. It would also be cool if he could make a special headbutt attack at either base initiative of initiative plus 2... Then he'd be worth his points


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The ultimate warlord thing should be a thing for all of the new LOW characters, because they embody what their race stands for