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Ha, a zoomed-in camera has no forgiveness.
On my screen it looks ~1.5 times bigger than real life: hard to miss any flaws but looks awesome in real life I am sure.

It reminds me to clamp my joins more, who would have guessed?

258 / 6mm scale at least will look better as you get older: the eyes do not see small so good at 40 something or up.

 Talizvar wrote:
Ha, a zoomed-in camera has no forgiveness.
On my screen it looks ~1.5 times bigger than real life: hard to miss any flaws but looks awesome in real life I am sure.

It reminds me to clamp my joins more, who would have guessed?

258 / 6mm scale at least will look better as you get older: the eyes do not see small so good at 40 something or up.

already there and then some and with RRT they stick out like the Grand Canyon.

 Talizvar wrote:
Ha, a zoomed-in camera has no forgiveness.
On my screen it looks ~1.5 times bigger than real life: hard to miss any flaws but looks awesome in real life I am sure.

It reminds me to clamp my joins more, who would have guessed?

258 / 6mm scale at least will look better as you get older: the eyes do not see small so good at 40 something or up.

I wouldn't worry about it as they looked quite nice. As you said, they're not meant to be looked at in 10x zoom and as the only point of interest in sight. Unless you're willing to spend dozens of hours per mini painting each scratch, panel line, and edge with multiple colors and shades ala Angel Giraldez then they won't look like award winning models.

After being a lively participant in many "painted or unpainted models?" topics, I am happy with any painting.
I like this scale because it is not a chore to cover the model and any slight effort in detail pays dividends.
I am torn between a more realistic look or try to stick to the eye-gouging cartoon colours of the source material.

<edit> Getting into late 40's here so a variety of vision enhancement tools are getting added to the hobby bench (thank goodness I started off near-sighted!).

Yeah, take your glasses off for close-in work.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Yeah, take your glasses off for close-in work.

Problem is, my old "comfortable" focus was about 4" from my nose, now it is about 8".
No glasses = 8" to 2.5' focus range... I am sure they will join together at some point.
So yeah, 3 foot rule looks great for me!

Not sure why I like the tiny models, not sure this is a sustainable thing as I get older.

BUT, my youngest son (10yrs) saw the models thought they were "cool looking" so I pointed him to watching Robotech on YouTube.
He is about 6 episodes in, he finds Minmay irritating, thinks Rick needs to focus/get a clue more and laughed so hard of Lisa being bossy: he IS my son!

Minmei *is* irritating. So grating. And it's even worse with Mac Delta making the thing into Magical Girls show. If I wanted to watch Sailor Moon, I'd watch Sailor Moon.

Now I'm wondering if I should build minis with one contact in. Left eye for far, right eye for near. Hmm...

Gah! I was rather ignorant of Macross Delta... I looked and what was seen cannot be unseen.

If they HAD to do this, could it not have been more like Bubblegum Crisis?

I read some heresy that Harmony Gold was going to license it?
I am sure Palladium can add some singing powers to their RPG's.

Well, at least with this thread, we would see little of this any time soon.

A BGC mashup would have been awesome! Alas...

 Talizvar wrote:
I am sure Palladium can add some singing powers to their RPG's.

According to a quick Google search, apparently the Book of Magic has "Song Magic" in it, so they're already there!

Just need to add Minmei's greatest hits and add 10ft/level here, 1d6/level there, and call it a day.

 Forar wrote:
According to a quick Google search, apparently the Book of Magic has "Song Magic" in it, so they're already there!

I really did not want to know...
I just had a vision of the new Palladium "exclusives":

When it's a big man's "Little Boy's Wet Dream", any flaw, no matter how small, becomes a massive issue to cry over. Reality cannot match fantasy. The seams could have been placed better, but as warboss said, they are not too bad, you just can't wash them or the seams will stick out even more.

Unfortunately the first thing people want to do is pick up a mini and look closely at the details.

 Talizvar wrote:
Not sure why I like the tiny models, not sure this is a sustainable thing as I get older.

Same thing happens with the railway modellers.

Start off on HO [half O] scale, when that gets too small, move up to O scale. From there it's the slippery slide to OO [double O] scale and the eventual shame of a Garden Railway.

Already I am doing less and less of the small stuff, and working my way into the realm of full size models. And that is a weirdness all it's own!

 Mike1975 wrote:
When it's a big man's "Little Boy's Wet Dream", any flaw, no matter how small, becomes a massive issue to cry over. Reality cannot match fantasy. The seams could have been placed better, but as warboss said, they are not too bad, you just can't wash them or the seams will stick out even more.
Unfortunately the first thing people want to do is pick up a mini and look closely at the details.

And I always thought a major part of "art" is getting what is in your head out into the world.
Where the reality falls short I hope our imaginations can make up for it (Mike seems to have no problem since he has been playing with printout models for quite some time).
It is funny when I think about it: we are using RRT to play out stuff in the Robotech world/show on tabletop... I am feeling and more and more like I should be saying "Ratatatatt" "BOOM!" "Kapow!" while we play.

It really is up to us on how much prep we want to do for a good result.
I honestly think at this scale I should not need a lot of filler to smooth the joins, usually a good glue (weld) and clamps / elastics should be enough.
What do you mean not use a wash??
It has been the best painting "cheat" ever invented (at least from my experience), there is no going back to the stone ages now.

Agreed that people like to pick up the mini's and look at them closely.
I find they usually pick up the "cool looking ones" which are usually hero's which you would typically do your best on those anyway.

 Mike1975 wrote:
When it's a big man's "Little Boy's Wet Dream", any flaw, no matter how small, becomes a massive issue to cry over. Reality cannot match fantasy.

Especially when the fantasy sold basically boiled down to "THESE MODELS WILL BE THE GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT MANKIND HAS EVER WROUGHT AND WILL ALSO PROVIDE SEXUAL RELEASE LIKE YOU'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE".

PB's usual approach to marketing did them no favours. "The Perfect" became an enemy of "The Good".

And yes, I'm aware that no product goes out with marketing copy declaring it "pretty good for the price point, could be better but we're doing the best we can with the resources we have available", but their strict adherence to (allegedly) 100% accurate detailing from a cartoon that didn't even try to pull that off all the time both led to frustration/shattered expectations in the community and apparently influenced their manufacturing choices.

And yes, before Rick (Hi Rick!) goes out and 'corrects' me again, as is his way, there are also other factors present as well, this is merely glancing at a couple of them obliquely in a conversational forum post, not a fething PHD dissertation.

 Conrad Turner wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:
Not sure why I like the tiny models, not sure this is a sustainable thing as I get older.

Same thing happens with the railway modellers.

Start off on HO [half O] scale, when that gets too small, move up to O scale. From there it's the slippery slide to OO [double O] scale and the eventual shame of a Garden Railway.

Already I am doing less and less of the small stuff, and working my way into the realm of full size models. And that is a weirdness all it's own!

I'm the opposite (at least for now). The older I get, the more I want to collect smaller models.

 n815e wrote:
I'm the opposite (at least for now). The older I get, the more I want to collect smaller models.

There is that desire, of course. Smaller models mean more room to display either a full collection of one subject, RRT for example [Ah, whom am I kidding, we'll never get them all, PB won't be able to release them.], or models from many different subjects. The larger the model, the more difficult it is to store, never mind store properly, for the average person.

But the point stands that worsening eyesight generally forces a person to focus on bigger and bigger things. This has also been postponed to a degree by advances in optics and things like vari-focal glasses.

Scale creep might catch up with age, though! When I started collecting miniatures, 25mm were a thing. Then 25s became 28s which are becoming 32s...

Even the 6mm miniatures I like are really 8mm and many 10mm lines are around 12mm.

 n815e wrote:
Scale creep might catch up with age, though! When I started collecting miniatures, 25mm were a thing. Then 25s became 28s which are becoming 32s...
Even the 6mm miniatures I like are really 8mm and many 10mm lines are around 12mm.

I seem to remember that saying things like "6mm - 10mm it's all the same!" is a bad idea around you...
"C&C" I bought some 6mm troop models from them... I have no idea how they get detail to that level on something so tiny.

I understand the want to add more "heroic" proportions which 40k is known for (makes for a less delicate figure for gaming).
It was a shock putting together Malifaux models of a "similar" scale, amazing looking (proportionate! <gasp> in most body parts...) but tiny spindly breakable bits.
Oddly, I have little fear of that with the RRT models: the plastic is impressively hard and I think only VT head lasers seem to be the thinnest bits.
Let us not get into the Scout pod bits... <shudder>

The Scout pod is fine. Aside from that one tiny antenna thing. You know which one I'm talking about. It's small enough I don't even feel bad about sneezing and losing it forever.

 Talizvar wrote:

 n815e wrote:
Scale creep might catch up with age, though! When I started collecting miniatures, 25mm were a thing. Then 25s became 28s which are becoming 32s...
Even the 6mm miniatures I like are really 8mm and many 10mm lines are around 12mm.

I seem to remember that saying things like "6mm - 10mm it's all the same!" is a bad idea around you...

LOL

Don't get me riled up.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Scout pod is fine. Aside from that one tiny antenna thing. You know which one I'm talking about. It's small enough I don't even feel bad about sneezing and losing it forever.

both my scout pods I built have that little antenna doohickey a pain to get off but possible, my biggest issue (other then that) was the antenna that sticks up out of the glaug pod, oh hell lets be honest that whole sprue was a pain in the behind.

Asterios wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Scout pod is fine. Aside from that one tiny antenna thing. You know which one I'm talking about. It's small enough I don't even feel bad about sneezing and losing it forever.

both my scout pods I built have that little antenna doohickey a pain to get off but possible, my biggest issue (other then that) was the antenna that sticks up out of the glaug pod, oh hell lets be honest that whole sprue was a pain in the behind.

It looks good when assembled, though.

 n815e wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Scout pod is fine. Aside from that one tiny antenna thing. You know which one I'm talking about. It's small enough I don't even feel bad about sneezing and losing it forever.

both my scout pods I built have that little antenna doohickey a pain to get off but possible, my biggest issue (other then that) was the antenna that sticks up out of the glaug pod, oh hell lets be honest that whole sprue was a pain in the behind.

It looks good when assembled, though.

I admit I am bad: I do not glue on that tiny antenna on the Glaug.
I figure it will break off from handling to better to make it look fine as is.
Heresy I know.

 Talizvar wrote:

 n815e wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
The Scout pod is fine. Aside from that one tiny antenna thing. You know which one I'm talking about. It's small enough I don't even feel bad about sneezing and losing it forever.

both my scout pods I built have that little antenna doohickey a pain to get off but possible, my biggest issue (other then that) was the antenna that sticks up out of the glaug pod, oh hell lets be honest that whole sprue was a pain in the behind.

It looks good when assembled, though.

I admit I am bad: I do not glue on that tiny antenna on the Glaug.
I figure it will break off from handling to better to make it look fine as is.
Heresy I know.

Heretic

 n815e wrote:

 Talizvar wrote:

 n815e wrote:
Scale creep might catch up with age, though! When I started collecting miniatures, 25mm were a thing. Then 25s became 28s which are becoming 32s...
Even the 6mm miniatures I like are really 8mm and many 10mm lines are around 12mm.

I seem to remember that saying things like "6mm - 10mm it's all the same!" is a bad idea around you...

LOL

Don't get me riled up.

I'm glad someone else said it. >.>

I took one look at that quote chain and "NOPE'D" right back out of the thread. :-P

I am a passionate hobbiest!

 n815e wrote:
I am a passionate hobbiest!

That is exactly why people "like you" belong here.
We each have our rivet-counting ways, we just may not have found Forar's yet.

Looks like the weekly update hit early with the usual cut and paste "new possibilities" and drivethrurpg gak that they've been peddling for the past year generally and exactly for the past month. They did mention the plans for both cons. Any dakkites going to either Anime North or the Socal convention? For the former, please firmly but politely (I know... you're Canadian... it's a redundant request!) badger our favorite snake oil salemen about his long delinquent and outstanding debts on camera at the likely palladium Q&A? The more the merrier!

First, I have to buy stuff for others and some for cloning research.
Be shocked about the price but glad I did not pay shipping.
Talk to Kevin and crew
Hear their response:
Then go see the happy vendors and cosplay people.
I will have wife and kids along so I cannot do anything to get kicked out...