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**zedmeister**

New preview minis for the upcoming expansions:

Bounty Dogs

Amongst the many new miniatures we have been making for Sedition Wars, are characters for a new faction – The Bounty Dogs.

The first one we’re previewing here, is someone who will be familiar to those of you who know our Limited Edition resin range – Vantara Sharro. Famed through SolCon as a extreme combat sports athlete, Sharro turned to the Bounty Dog network to provide her with the ultimate thrill of the chase. Available as a high quality resin in limited quantities at Salute, and in the Stdio McVey store shortly after that.

Ashar and Zoyra introduce some alien races to the Sedition Wars universe. Zoyra is an outcast noble, seeking validation amongst humans rather than living in exile on her home world. A former member of Zorya’s personal guard, Ashar is of the Muribdan warrior caste. He is bonded to a scythed symbiotic, this creature provides Ashar with a neurotoxic saber made of monoblade bone. It also acts as biological power armor, folding Ashar in chiton.

Ashar is large – 36mm in that pose (shown on 50mm base) and pretty imposing. Zoyra is 30mm in her pose (on 25mm base).

Gilgamesh is a former Clone gladiator – his body heavily battle scarred from years in the arena, fighting for the entertainment of the SolCon elite.
Freed as an honour, he knows only his trade, and is a Bounty Dog because it is the only chance he has to keep his edge.

Strain

The Thraex. These are the evolutionary pinnacle of the Brute Broodline, which are specifically designed for close combat and corridor fighting. The huge claws on the Thraex can rip through bulkheads and airlock doors with ease.

The miniature is very large – 70mm to the top of the upper claw. I have added a quick scale picture comparing it to a standard Samaritan trooper.

The Retairus is the phase two version or the Thraex, and still shows some vague features of the original human host. As with it’s larger Brute brood-line brother, this creature is evolved for close quarters fighting and door breaking. The miniature is small compared to the Thraex, but still larger and far more powerful than any human.

Next we’re going to look at a new brood-line – the Siren. This evolutionary form of the Strain are adept at combat in confined environments – using their snake like bodies to fit in the tight corridors and conduits of deep space facilities.

The Naga is the phase two exo-form, still showing distinct signs of the original host, while the body warps and changes into the desired pattern.

The phase three version of the Siren Brood-line is the Medusa, this large and terrifying creature towers over the Naga and has a range of deadly attacks at it’s disposal. The miniature stands 55mm tall and the long sinuous form makes it an imposing piece.

This is a character we’ve met before, but she’s seen here in her fully evolved form.

Brilliant, beautiful, and utterly merciless Dr. Hexen Phaedrus was a specialist in nano-technology and neural interface systems at the Alabaster Science facility. She had advanced knowledge of how the Strain nano-phage worked, and a desire to see it contained and controlled. After reverse engineering the nano-phage, she took the radical decision to inoculate herself, but not without first building a back door safeguard into the nano-tech she developed. Now she retains full control of her evolution, and of the exo-forms around her – bending them to her own merciless ambitions.

Firebrand

The first character shown here is Gemma, AKA Big Sister. Gemma is a Kaliyama class clone, grown from servitor vats specifically for gladiatorial entertainment. She has four arms, the upper, designed for strength and power, carry a heavy auto-shotgun. Her lower arms, built for speed and dexterity each bear Scather industrial cutters. She’s shown on a 50mm base – so she’s quite imposing.

Next is a brand new version of a familiar character – Vokker Dargu.

Uriah Severn, one of the mysterious Preachers, who are follow with religious zeal by the faithful of the Firebrand rebellion.

Only one clue so far exists as to the Preachers’ origins. In the Magellan Expanse, a Vanguard patrol picked up an obsolete data-relay broadcast from the surface of a desolate planet. Upon closer inspection, the flight recorder of a wrecked, antiquated ship was discovered. The ship was identified as a long-lost prototype exploration shuttle belonging to Uriah Severn, a test pilot dispatched from the Edge to explore the uncharted regions between galaxies. Of Severn himself, or his crew, there was no sign; but since that discovery, his name has been spoken by Firebrand captives as the most divine prophet in the Edge. Where he went during his three decades in hyperspace is unknown. And what he brought back—if indeed, the Preacher called Severn is still the same man—is a source of great concern to SolCon…

Vanguard

First up is a brand new Vanguard unit equipped with the Gnosis pattern armour. The unit is lead by Sgt. Killian Brace, and also features three trooper poses and a heavy weapon operative. These miniatures are around 50mm tall to the head, and very imposing.

Tumult is the AI of the Bastion ship, Arms of Sorrow. Seen here in his Envoy form, he appears as a tall sleek humanoid. Apparently unarmed, he is still a dangerous opponent with many micro weapons concealed in his frame.

**UNCLE BAD TOUCH**

Wonder if they fixed the card components for the retail wave?

**cincydooley**

UNCLE BAD TOUCH wrote:
Wonder if they fixed the card components for the retail wave?

What was wrong with the card components? Aside from some folks getting off printed ones (this wasnt a majority) they look great.

**Breotan**

Is CMoN going to be the only distributer or are they going to be using other pipelines to get their game into physical stores?

**JoshInJapan**

I hope they make the minis available without having to buy the whole game.

**Breotan**

Actually, I hope they don't. The only way this succeeds is if the game sells. I want to see supplements/expansions down the road.

**JoshInJapan**

Breotan wrote:
Actually, I hope they don't. The only way this succeeds is if the game sells. I want to see supplements/expansions down the road.

I hadn't considered that. I retract my wish.

**Laughing Man**

The majority of them are available individually, through Studio McVey.

**Kalamadea**

cincydooley wrote:
UNCLE BAD TOUCH wrote:
Wonder if they fixed the card components for the retail wave?

What was wrong with the card components? Aside from some folks getting off printed ones (this wasnt a majority) they look great.

The tiles in a lot of the kickstarter wave had major warping issues. The last D6Generation podcast was talking about it, they're thick cardstock but they just start warping once they get put down on a tabletop even after sitting under heavy books for a few days. It was enough to convince me to wait for a 2nd printing.

**Denilsta**

Breotan wrote:
Is CMoN going to be the only distributer or are they going to be using other pipelines to get their game into physical stores?

As well as the warping board sections and off centre printed counters, some people have had their miniature warped as well. There is an update about heating them up and bending them into position. This as well as the fact there is lots of complaints about confusing rules and more FAQ's than there should be, makes me believe I will not be seeing this in a high street store.

I just cannot see little Timmy's mother downloading rules updates and heat bending little plastic toys before you can even start, to be honest while the figures are amazing I have found the whole experience slightly disappointing

**Pacific**

Although I guess you would have to define 'little timmy' - I remember as a 12-yr old being perfectly capable of filing and cutting miniatures, and eventually pinning and GS'ing (those old metal WFB dragons were really a baptism of fire!

) Certainly BfA is not really any more difficult than any other starter set you could care to mention, and I can't imagine industrious kids or teenagers having much of a problem.

That being said I've had no problems at all from my kit - detail wise the miniatures are perfectly fine also, definitely a step up from what you would usually expect in a board game (and therefore no doubt usable for tabletop gaming also).

**Zwan1One**

The heat vending is relatively simple. The miniatures just need to be dunked in close to boiling water. Heat bending makes it sound like you need Bunsen burner.

I expect that the game won't appear elsewhere until the 2nd print run. So after the 2nd wave of kickstarter releases.

Mike mcvey said the they do plan on releasing the miniatures as squads/hoards in the future.

**greywulf**

No significant problems in my SW box, and the rules don't seem overly complex compared to the Hero Quest I grew up playing. I would Imagine SW would be visible in the same kinds of places Hero Quest was.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

I think Mike McVey has said he plans to have the SW game box up on the Studio McVey webstore soon too

(so those in Europe wanting to get hold of it may find it cheaper to hold off till he does)

**Azazelx**

Pacific wrote:
Although I guess you would have to define 'little timmy' - I remember as a 12-yr old being perfectly capable of filing and cutting miniatures, and eventually pinning and GS'ing (those old metal WFB dragons were really a baptism of fire! ) Certainly BfA is not really any more difficult than any other starter set you could care to mention, and I can't imagine industrious kids or teenagers having much of a problem.

That being said I've had no problems at all from my kit - detail wise the miniatures are perfectly fine also, definitely a step up from what you would usually expect in a board game (and therefore no doubt usable for tabletop gaming also).

It depends on which variant of Little Timmy we're using, as you said. Miniatures Wargaming Neophyte Timmy would probably have no problem gluing, filing, trimming (though fixing warped figures with Boiling Hot Water might not go down so well.)

greywulf wrote:
No significant problems in my SW box, and the rules don't seem overly complex compared to the Hero Quest I grew up playing. I would Imagine SW would be visible in the same kinds of places Hero Quest was.

While CMON can probably get their stuff into some specialist games shops, they won't be getting it into Toy Stores and Department Stores like Heroquest did (a MB product, remember!) The "mainstream" version of Little Timmy who got his hypothetical game from there would no doubt be horrified by the prospect of a boardgame where you have to glue the tokens together first, and the game would be returned or quickly consigned to the closet.

**AlexHolker**

Laughing Man wrote:
The majority of them are available individually, through Studio McVey.

Not really. $10 metal analogues are available individually, but that's stupid expensive for rank-and-file.

**Piston Honda**

Mike said the box set will be sold on his webstore.

As for selling the plastic miniatures without the whole game box, Mike said it would not happen while running in the board game format. When or if the game expands into something else he said he would make them available in some manner. Individually or in packs would probably depend on the scale of the game, or so I assume. (Skirmish or Army level)

I've seen several online discount stores advertise SedWars for 60 or 70 bucks for preorder.

**IdentifyZero**

AlexHolker wrote:
Laughing Man wrote:
The majority of them are available individually, through Studio McVey.

Not really. $10 metal analogues are available individually, but that's stupid expensive for rank-and-file.

Some clarifications, you can get all of the heroes and strain on Studio McVey. The Vanguard troopers sold on the website are different from the Prophet Armor equipped troopers in the SW Boxed Game.

Also, I think these complaints about warped tiles and all the tokens being off-set are the vicious complaints of a few vocal nerds on podcasts and websites who had to just NERDRAGE so now everyone goes on about it.

I got THREE boxes. None of them had any counters off-center or any warped tiles.

Now, we all know some counters were off-center and CMON is happy to replace them (so no reason to complain).

As for the Tiles, I wonder if for some people, they have yet to own a game that involved cardboard tiles. These are as high quality as any other game I own, if not better and did not warp. There are some simple tricks to avoid warping though, such as allowing the box to reach room temperature of your home before opening it or heaven forbid put some weight on them to straighten them out.

It's honestly a great game, the rules just need some more work.

Definitely good value for the money no matter WHAT you intend to do with it.

**angryboy2k**

I kept my tiles under books for about a week right after opening the box, then I sealed all the edges with clear nail polish so that moisture wouldn't get it. I live in a place with pretty large humidity fluctuations over the year (I used to have an Ikea table that delaminated due to moisture getting in through scratches) so it seemed like a good precaution. No problems yet.

The miniatures on the other hand... Sorry, they're a nightmare. A lot of the guns don't fit well - regardless of bending. I'm talking especially about the male vanguard troopers here, whose shoulders I had to hack to make the weapons fit.

Furthermore, the mold lines are not easy to deal with. Do not think you'll be scraping a knife or a carbide scraper tool over them to remove them - those will make the plastic go all fluffy. The only way to really deal with the mold lines is by holding a blade flat against the contours of the mini and SLICING the mold lines off. It's extremely demoralizing and I gave up before very long and simply assembled the base set models with their mold lines present (I only cut off the larger gates visible in some areas). I'm now in the process of dipping the models (since I couldn't be bothered cleaning them properly I can't see the point in painting them properly either). It's a tragedy because the material clearly holds the detail very nicely, but the clean up time is too much for me.

**JoshInJapan**

angryboy2k wrote:
I kept my tiles under books for about a week right after opening the box, then I sealed all the edges with clear nail polish so that moisture wouldn't get it. I live in a place with pretty large humidity fluctuations over the year (I used to have an Ikea table that delaminated due to moisture getting in through scratches) so it seemed like a good precaution. No problems yet.

The miniatures on the other hand... Sorry, they're a nightmare. A lot of the guns don't fit well - regardless of bending. I'm talking especially about the male vanguard troopers here, whose shoulders I had to hack to make the weapons fit.

Furthermore, the mold lines are not easy to deal with. Do not think you'll be scraping a knife or a carbide scraper tool over them to remove them - those will make the plastic go all fluffy. The only way to really deal with the mold lines is by holding a blade flat against the contours of the mini and SLICING the mold lines off. It's extremely demoralizing and I gave up before very long and simply assembled the base set models with their mold lines present (I only cut off the larger gates visible in some areas). I'm now in the process of dipping the models (since I couldn't be bothered cleaning them properly I can't see the point in painting them properly either). It's a tragedy because the material clearly holds the detail very nicely, but the clean up time is too much for me.

Really? I used diamond-coated needle files from Micromark, and they took the mold lines off in one or two passes. Two layers of paint left any residual file lines invisible. Maybe you got a bad set.

**notprop**

I see both sides of that coin Joshinjapan.

Is spent two hours a night for 4-5 days and got the heroes and the big strain models cleaned and glued. It's very labourous taking the mould lines of with a traditional set of needle files, emery board and hobby knife; the lines are not bad but the material is the issue.

I tired of that and went and got surgical scapul with fine blades and a set of diamond files (never had the need before) and £20 later am going allot faster.

**OrlandotheTechnicoloured**

A sharp craft/xacto/scalpel will scrape the material fine

it's holding on to old blades that causes problems (so replace or sharpen them again),

I found that I could do about 5-6 models before having to sharpen them again

**Bellygrub**

My copy had all the issues everyone has mentioned. Warped tiles. Off center tokens. Different sized cards. Horribly fitting models. Missing components.

But if I mention any of these issues I immediately get attacked (my favorite being asked how I get out of bed without killing myself. Really?). I've been in touch with CMON trying to get everything sorted out. They're so swamped with replacement requests it makes for slow going. I did finally just get a shipping notice for my first set of missing parts on Friday though so that's a good start.

I started painting up a few of the models but eventually just slipped the box into the closet of Narnia and have gone back to painting up my Zombicide set.

**Piston Honda**

OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
A sharp craft/xacto/scalpel will scrape the material fine

it's holding on to old blades that causes problems (so replace or sharpen them again),

I found that I could do about 5-6 models before having to sharpen them again

yup, very sharp blades are needed with this material.

The upside is that more fragile parts are a lot more sturdy in this material and don't have to worry about snapping off. The downside is that they take 2 or 3 times longer to clean up.

**spiralingcadaver**

While I don't agree with IdentifyZero's tone, I do agree with what he said. The minis were frustrating to clean at times, but not so much more than other games' minis that I'd complain. All of the off-center stuff was well within what's industry standard for printing, and I chalk up to gamers' pickiness.

The rules did have problems, but they're very actively fixing them, generally with rulings I agree with.

**kenshin620**

I just noticed that MM has a bunch in stock so I guess these are now fully out instead of pre order

**Janthkin**

Rudeness in this thread will not be tolerated.

**Grot 6**

I eventually pulled out of the project, but was sent a letter by CMON that they were going to send me my first batch for the order. If they have, it hasn't shown up yet.

Used the money from this one for the KD campaign.

I don't see the reason for the nastiness, though. The stuff came, eventually. CMON contacted me after they finally received it, and I gave them a long measure of how I felt about the misdirection and the delays, so when they ended up contacting me in regards to the order, I was pretty impressed. I contacted CMON to the thought, and told them that I would reinstate my order if the stuff showed up after all.

Still hope it shows, I would love to get back into this one if I could.

**zedmeister**

Spotted on the studio mcvey store and now available to eu and uk buyers.

Have updated the first post

**notprop**

A local retailer here has just confirmed he will be getting SD wars in.