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Hi All,

I would love some constructive feedback on my Averlorn/Lothern themed list. Thanks!

HQ:

Everqueen (350) (deploy with Sea Guard)

Heroes

Lothern Sea Helm (169) (Deploy with Sea Guard)
-Bow, BSB, Banner of Averlorn

Handmaiden of the Everqueen (95) (Deploy with Sisters of Averlorn)

Handmaiden of the Everqueen (95) (Deploy with Sisters of Averlorn)

Core

5 Ellyrian Reavers (95)
-Bows

5 Ellyrian Reavers (95)
-Bows

28 Lothern Sea Guard (366)
-Shields, Full Command

Special

Lothern Skycutter (120)
-Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

Lothern Skycutter (120)
-Eagle Eye Bolt Thrower

Rare

14 Sisters of Averlorn (196)

14 Sisters of Averlorn (196)

Great Eagle (50)

Great Eagle (50)

Total: 1997

It's not a bad list, though you lack a dedicated close combat unit, which could really come back to bite you.

You could try and find the points to add in a decently sized unit of Swordmasters, in which to put your BSB and/or Arielle. Saphery is, after all, inbetween Eataine and Avelorn, so it kinda fits in with your theme.

First of all nice to see another Lothern themed player out there , a few pointers:

-As mentioned lack of any heavy hitting CC units will hurt you in alot of your games. If you really want to stick with your Avelorn theme just convert up some female warriors with weapons (seen a cool one using Wood Elf figs and High Elf bits) and run them as White Lions, Sword Masters ect.

-Bolt throwers are a waste on the Skycutters IMO just because for that same point value you could get a lion chariot which is much nastier. Also in regards to statistics. Unless you just sit there they will need 4+ or 5+ to hit when you take into account moving and long range being anything over 12 inches. If they had the volley fire option then I would but as of now they are not worth it.

 gmaleron wrote:
First of all nice to see another Lothern themed player out there , a few pointers:

-As mentioned lack of any heavy hitting CC units will hurt you in alot of your games. If you really want to stick with your Avelorn theme just convert up some female warriors with weapons (seen a cool one using Wood Elf figs and High Elf bits) and run them as White Lions, Sword Masters ect.

-Bolt throwers are a waste on the Skycutters IMO just because for that same point value you could get a lion chariot which is much nastier. Also in regards to statistics. Unless you just sit there they will need 4+ or 5+ to hit when you take into account moving and long range being anything over 12 inches. If they had the volley fire option then I would but as of now they are not worth it.

The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting. If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.
-Matt

I'm wanting to do a pretty much same list but with a few tweaks.

The reaver bow + potion of strength is pretty brutal on a hand maiden. I'm testing it in my games at the moment and finding it quite nasty.

I also run a seahelm BSB + seahelm combat character + handmaiden. And I dont have the eagles or reavers, but I do have swordmasters. Still working on making it gel nicely without going overboard.

HawaiiMatt wrote:

The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting. If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.
-Matt

If thats the case taking regular bolt throwers are a much better investment. I understand what you are saying in regards to maxing out shooting, however a S5 bolt thrower that for the most part will need 4+ to it due to long range not counting terrain features making a chariot over 120pts. really to me does not seem worth it, just my opinion.

 gmaleron wrote:

HawaiiMatt wrote:

The bolt throwers are worth it if you're maxing out shooting. If you can force the enemy to move at you, the extra 3 bolt shots are nice.
-Matt

If thats the case taking regular bolt throwers are a much better investment. I understand what you are saying in regards to maxing out shooting, however a S5 bolt thrower that for the most part will need 4+ to it due to long range not counting terrain features making a chariot over 120pts. really to me does not seem worth it, just my opinion.

The thing is, it's not an either or choice. You take the 4 Repeating bolt throwers, and the bolt throwers on the chariots.
I'd bet you're only getting 2 shots before charging at the survivors of the gunline.

-Matt

Edit: Ignore me, I got my WFB and 40K mixed up...