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The first actual post of this thread starts here. But well as I've noticed other sites linking here and this being what people look at first I'll say something: For the love of god skim read the first wad of pages... Seriously my camera was crap and the quality of the models wasn't much better. Not to say I improved much, but hell at least everything doesn't have an orange tint to it anymore.

Aye, well let's get to it then.

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So over the past few months I've found myself inadvertently getting into making Fallout models. At this stage I'm sitting on quite the pile of them, along with the rest of my post apocalyptic stuff. Here's what's painted (...and some of what's not) for you're perusal. Anyhow...

The Brotherhood of Steel:


Vault Security:


New Californian Republic:


Caesar's Legion:


Enclave Remnants:


Wastelanders:


Plus a few WIPs:


So that's that. Till the next time I can scavenge a camera then. Next on the painting table looks like; some Trogs (Van Buren style, not the Pitt), Caesar's Legion, Reavers (Raiders), Super Mutants and Shi. Along with that there's a few odds and ends that'll get chucked in to break it up a little. ...And aside from all that I'm doing my best to avoid painting a shanty town board, a modular Vault and ...uh the Sierra Madre villa.

...Taking on bets on whether I'll manage to get any of that actually finished before Christmas? ^^

Nice stuff all round, subscribed!

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Power Armoured Vaulter and Pacification Bot (Brother Vinni + West Wind American- woops forgot to paint the base)

By the way, isn't that bit robot things a Red Blok suit from AT-43?

Hmmmm o love me some fallout minis! Wonderful apocalyptic work you show here!

The tribals is a wonderful idea...I will spread the word about your fallout thread!

Wow, nice work! Definitely subbed

 BrookM wrote:
By the way, isn't that bit robot things a Red Blok suit from AT-43?

Yup, looks it.

Hey Wyrm! A man after my own heart I see! Great stuff!

Is Fallout! Gains many internets of approval!

Very nice stuff, good work all round. Subbed.

 BrookM wrote:
Nice stuff all round, subscribed!

 Wyrmalla wrote:
Power Armoured Vaulter and Pacification Bot (Brother Vinni + West Wind American- woops forgot to paint the base)

By the way, isn't that bit robot things a Red Blok suit from AT-43?

Is that what that is? Someone was selling a ton of stuff at my club one night and it looked interesting. Hey at least I now know that if I want any more of them I can go myself. (Nah he had a whole bag of the things going for 50p each).

So I'm out of glue (sad times). That means actually painting up existing stuff instead of making new things. Oh first world problems. I guess tonight's project will be hitting up Caesar's Legion, and maybe, if I can squeeze them in, some Trog Bandits (they're small, so it shouldn't a problem shoving them all through the door at once). =)

Wow. Awesome Fallout stuff.

Updates. So here's last night's products.

Caesar's Legion
Legionaires (Urban War Gladiators)


Legion Mongrels (Miniature Mojo Wolves  )


And some group shots:



I picked the legionaires up a cut price from a friend. As a result of their second hand nature I've ah... included some females. Actually I have almost double the number of women as men sitting about. So, backtracking a little in front of canon, I think I'll pitch them as "an off shoot segment of the Legion, far from the influence of the main body of the group. Their leader's have applied their own ethos to their culture (like in Nuka Break...sure)". ...Oi shuttit that sounded completely feasible.

Wasteland Critters
Glowing Ones (Reaper Bones, applying the F3 scheme to such a fleshy model was a chore ...I'm no good at chores)


Bark Scoprions (Reaper Bones)


Rat Swarms( And guess what? Reaper Bones. ...What the blisters they come in are £1.20 each!)



And here's where the next few nights are heading. Trogs! ^^



Alongside him (a Games Workshop Gretchin with a GW ghoul head swap), and his fellow Trog bandits, I've picked up a box of goblins from The Hobbit that'll make suitable mutated Troglodite cannibals.


Aside from the Trogs I bought some glue (huzzah!), and so popped into one of my flgs to pick up a little something I've had my eye on. A Airfix Jackel transporter vehicle. What for? Well after the Greyhound ram vehicle (Bull/Bovin) I think that my Legionaire's Praetorian (when he gets built that is) could do with a suitable transport, and well it looks suitably modern enough to add a more techy element to my existing vehicle pool (despite that it'll be getting covered in warpaint and perhaps a few corpses). Taking suggestions on names for this beefy ride?    
For ye who don't know what I'm talking about. This sexy beast.




Oh, and here's a quick shot of one of my terrain boxes. Only a portion of this one's actually finished (typical), but it looks like that one's my odds and ends pile. Depending on how slow I am at finishing the actual models I may chuck up some shots of that stuff here (such a tease).

oh...... i like those legion heinis... (too bad there are on the wrong side of my snipergun most of the times )...

the glowing ones really look the business even tho these minis never were intended for that use... but with your painting the became!

i am still trying to figure out wher troglodytes are coming from???...hmmm

also...what i like on your posts probably the most is that you help us fellow modlers to search for the stuff you used as you explain it before anyone need to ask... that is very helpful !

i think i will eventually make that A-bomb terrain piece... everyone should have something like this sitting on a shelf...

Yeah, well its a total pain to read someone's blog and think "ooh, where's that model from?", only to find that the thread's been dead for years or whatever.

In regards to the Legionaire...ettes, I may at some point plug into the little known Hounds of Hecate, a faction located within Caesar's territory. They're pretty much just those tribes that were opposed to the legion, but rather than being wiped out, became part of a fanatical, barbaric warband instead (ie something worse than the Legion, at least they're civil). So I guess there's a use for those Tribals other than well tribals. Ah, but to get back to my point, the Hounds happen to include a female priesthood, and warriors, given to their leader being a ...lovely, not at all insane, woman (below).



Ah, but anyhow. I'm pegging Van Buren for background, etc, rather than Fallout 3. So my Trogs are based on those that inhabited Hoover Dam (who were actually quite friendly) in that timeline (though I guess they're just a roving band that're scouting out from their cave homes). Not to say that they may have some ...less attractive siblings back in the burrows.

well... there is fluff... and then what you do with it...... after all it is your own money spent and so your choices... i am fully with you... it is no religion were talking here so let there be Legionaire...ettes^^... scantly clad legioneres.... there could be worse things hitting my eyeballs, eh?^^

Hounds of Hecate

i never heard of these....?... but it sounds convincing...

Yeah, well its a total pain to read someone's blog and think "ooh, where's that model from?", only to find that the thread's been dead for years or whatever.

yup... that is perfectly the thing that happened quite a lot to me too...

You Mean Van Buren, the cancelled Fallout 3 game?

As far as the series' fluff goes I prefer to take the East Coast stuff over anything that occurred outside that region. Not to say that the other developers didn't have good ideas or games, I just prefer the canon developed by Black Isle/Obsidian. For one it left us wondering what happened to the rest of the US, which Bethesda handled somewhat anticlimactically by saying "there's nothing on the mysterious West Coast" (though that's not true, there's just not as much). But ah, I think I may be wittering.

Ack, and already I'm tripping up on myself. The Hounds of Hecate are the male warriors. The Daughters of Hecate are the priesthood. Hecate and her tribes, their war with the Legion and discovery of the weakened NCR were to be the main focus of Fallout 4, as this storyline was cut from development early on due to time constraints. That's considering that the player didn't nuke the world at the end of Van Buren that is (though the San Francisco got nuked by the Enclave at the end of 2 and the world seemed to go on, so no biggee). ...But I could go on about the series' fluff at length (I'll try and keep it just to the main posts, promise), still Knowing's Half the Battle kids.

I don't have any problem with the fluff! I'm a big fan of it! I'm one of those guys who reads every terminal entry, and then builds scale models from the games I've heard about Van Buren, but not that much.

Oh yes, and your stuff's really well thought out and executed. I don't think I have the focus myself however to recreate elements of the game so thoroughly.

Van Buren's essentially New Vegas, but set over a wider area, and there was a much larger impact on the world. It delved in what happened before the war quite a bit, especially detailing on just why certain things happened. America wasn't a nice place to live. Bethesda didn't quite put it across so well, but the whole retro 50's style of the US was something imposed by the government to keep America in its heyday, rather than facing up to the Orwellian hell-hole it had become. Considering just how corrupt and well, pretty morally stagnant the country and the world as a whole had become the devs were trying to make the point that well, maybe they had what was coming to it when the nukes started to fall.

But for instance, youknow in New Vegas you find a pair of Hei Gui stealth suits in a random box in Hoover Dam? That was the devs hinting at a pretty major part of the world's lore. Hoover Dam is where the predecessor to FEV was created. The Chinese attacked it, stole some samples, but their agents were killed during the riots in Denver (martial law was declared across the US by this stage). This predecessor got out, mutated into the so called "New Plague", and killed off more people than the war with China had by that point. The Americans blamed it on Chinese insurgents, but then, in developing a cure for their own plague, created FEV, which led to the creation of Pre-war super soldiers. ...Uh, all that's was just from the terminal entries in one computer in Van Buren. Yeah, Chris Avellone really put his heart into the game's fluff. =)

Oh, and the main character of Van Buren was also infected with the New Plague. You'd go about infecting communities unbeknownst, and wind up with a giant killer death robot chasing you down to stop you killing half the NCR (and to allow a mad NCR scientist to disable the pacification protocols on the last of America's nukes).

Heh, but I droll on. The design documents for Van Buren are great resource for getting a feel for the world....if you can be bothered trawling through them that is. Which, to reign in this spiel, amongst other things, I have been eyeing up some Gehenas and Molochs for a future sculpting project (did I mention my chronic "ooh shiny new model" tendencies?).

I thought the robot was just chasing you and whenever it caught you, drag you back to prison, which was useless seeing as your cell had a hole in the wall.

But I agree, shame that Van Buren never happened, as it had some neat stuff in there!

Heh, yeah, don't belittle the pre-war robots BrookM! They're still working with transistors.^^

The Scientist's (Victor Presper) plan went something like: 1) infect all the Prisoners 2) Blow a whopping big hole in the side of the prison (which later went on to by the Big M.T. btw) 3) Let the prisoners run amock, being heroes, helping about every town they come across 4) Wait for all the locals to start dying enmasse from the New Plague 5) Use America's worst case scenario pacification weapons that have now been enabled by the giant robot determining that the New Plague has spread too far, to nuke the world back into the stone age (ignoring that tribals may still be using flint weapons, but...shh)6) ???? 7) Profit.

Hey, and something totally out of the blue: ...Guess where Ulysses' intentions came from in the last DLC? (Though he does have a lot of the Hounds of Hecate fluff involved with him too). ...They had a game that was 80% complete before it was cancelled, so youknow, waste not want not.

did I mention my chronic "ooh shiny new model" tendencies?

oh poor puppie...lol...we all have that desease^^

I get that. I imagine that McCarthyism being a success rather than the (thankfully) failure it was being the point where the timelines spit from real history. Then the 1950s never ended (until 2077 when the Nukes dropped). Sad thing is, so many people TODAY actually believe in the romanticized TV version of the 1950s..and that's sad. I can imagine every US dollar being pumped into advanced weapons and robot research, while the population only gets the same red tricycles and metal boxes they had been producing for the last 120 years. I love the fluff, it's one of the most believable alternate histories written IMHO.

Well its Chris Avellone, he likes showing a more realistic, if darker side of stories. Like say Bioshock: Infinite, I enjoy how the games subvert our idealised idea of such apparent heydays. For instance have you considered just where all the Asian people are in the games? They're there, but, whilst referencing the Japanese internment camps of the 40's, a large part of the Chinese (and presumably those of other Asian descent, considering China annexed a few of the countries that surrounded it, just like America with Canada and Mexico) population just disappeared before the war (whilst the average American would have probably just smoked there pipes and smiled at their morning papers). Though considering that America no longer exists, and, at least from the perspective of the East coast, where the NCR was descended from a multi cultural vault, people's views have become increasingly liberal despite the whole apocalypse thing.

The games at least try and paint a world with realistic struggles, even if they are exaggerated somewhat with all the jingoism, which isn't something many other developers handle very well. Sure the robots and zaniness make it fun, but that offsets the darker elements.So, as you said, it might be fun to think of kids still playing on their bicycles and reading super hero comics, and all the other rose tinted memories of the past, but that was all just a pretence for a pretty dark country that was only use that as a façade to dupe the people from their real problems.

I'm iffy about photoshop, but in future, if I every get around to making a Vault (I have the plastercast molds laying about somewhere) I'd like to add in signs following this kind of commentary. Though I think that I may just receive a swift kicking off my opponents for trying to act too smart for my own good.

Edit: Though, ah, just as a titbit from the Fallout movie's script (penned by Interplay/ TIm Cain I think); it was America that started the war. This was still in the early days of the series, and they decided to leave it ambiguous after that point, but I like the idea that there's a few American bombs on US soil. They may have been dropped by down aircraft, or, more sinisterly, the US government may have decided to nuke its own country to egg their population further into war fever (ie like in 1984). The pretence of the film however was that Vault Tec/The Enclave did it as they wanted to get the experiment under way, though that somewhat conflicts with other sources that say they didn't have the time to finish their grand plans (ie the Enclave originally created the Vaults to test for conditions aboard rockets to Mars and for its colonisation, as Earth was a husk to them by this point, but instead had to settle for the Vault and pacifying the wasteland after they ran out of rocket fuel or something).

These miniatures are fantastic! I had the idea to create a Fallout-style game for me and my friends using the Wreck Age rule set and your efforts have really inspired me to go full steam ahead!

Please keep up the wonderful work!

It's funny you say that. I've been thinking recently how anything not "conservative" in nature is somehow by default "liberal". As if things are either black or white in the minds of people, while denying their own mental grey shades. I think the writers clearly had that everlasting struggle in their minds and conveyed it pretty damn well in the games. I think we all had that overwhelming feeling of "what the feth did we do to ourselves?" in our minds the first time we stepped out of Vault 101 and the bleakness and destruction of the wasteland hit us. Our human nature always wants to make sense of it too "who started it?" we ask. We have it ingrained in our minds that violence in self-defense is somehow morally better than violence in aggression for some reason. After the bombs dropped though, does it really matter who started it? Who was in the right or wrong? Even the recorded dialogs are brilliant IMHO. President J.H. Eden speaks of "incompetence at the highest levels" on his radio bits, and we hear that before we learn that he himself is an A.I.

In many ways, I think that if the story was written simply as a timeline of chronological events (like the Fallout Bible) it wouldn't have the same impact as it does when we play through the story and piece it all together ourselves. Even for someone like myself who never played the first two FO games before playing FO:3, it's a brilliant way to tell a story

On Eden, one of the Zax in 2 jokes that the whole war was just a big joke between all the zax super computers as they were fast growing tired of their new found intelligence and how dreary the humans queries were. Of course the line from Old World Blues that goes something like, "they spent years trying to find the answers, but they were all for the wrong questions", kind of tells you about the mentality of the politicians (ie "How can we defeat China in this war?" rather than "How may we make peace?"). The devs themselves have noted that the war itself could have been avoided, but once the resource wars kicked off the nations involved just could stop themselves from escalating it. For one the energy crisis could have been solved by American military developments such as Micro Fusion cells, had the war come a short time later (though again, the countries were so gear up for conflict that resources and patriotism just became excuses).

I do rather enjoy having to peace together the scraps of information and half truths of the past to find out what's really going on. I mean at no point is anything really explicitly stated about what happened by any of the characters (even those that experienced the war probably didn't know what really happened due to propaganda and miscommunication to trip up spies), so it could be what's considered canon's just what those living 200 years after the war thought happened. So yes, explicitly telling the player what's going on in the universe would take away the moral greyness of the series, and could stick up one side or another as the ones in the wrong. Rather leaving it as, "who cares? They're all equally to blame. Nobody won, and everyone who was involved is (mostly) long dead", just proves the point of the series, to buck up and progress towards the future and not to dwell in the past (something that New Vegas' DLCs really hit home).

So, besides the great story, I've progressed somewhat tonight, though I may only be able to make a small update tomorrow due to having a game on *. The Legion Praetorian's ride's inadvertently became an armoured transport vehicle for the Veterans to travel in called the Verris (Boar), with the smaller M8 Greyhound (Bovem-Bull) being this Legion force's line breaker vehicle (I've a thing for adding spikes to the front of the Legion vehicles, as well they probably use them more like cavalry). As for the canonical state of the Legion using vehicles I imagine they work alongside their ethos towards technology in general. They dislike technology, as they regard it as a substitute for a task a man could do, but I guess with the hypocrisy of the higher ranks of the Legion, using a couple of these is probably justifiable. ...And well everyone else has vehicles, plus they look cool.

...Don't ask about the female legionaires though. ...Uh they were in one mod. ... ....Shh!

*This episode of 7Tv titled, "The Great Shopping Bag Cuffuffle". ...In short the baddies have dropped their shopping and they need to find it and escape before the police turn up. ...Professional writing indeed.

HERMEGERD. How the hell did you pull of the brotherhood of steel so flawlessly, I mean shet they are perfect.

Thanks! I still need to find a model to stand in for the recon armour. I'll probably just use a model in a cathsuit (ideas anyone?) and greenstuff up the plugs. Along with that T51-b is a goal (which again, I'll probably just sculpt), though for the moment I think what I have for the Brotherhood, at least in the heavy armoured side, is sufficient. Four suits of Power Armour's's probably a little overkill before I can beef up the other factions with their own specialist units or whatever (ie Veteran Rangers/ Heavy Troopers for the NCR, Hei Gui Stealth Suits/Salvaged Enclave Power Armour for the Shi, giant killer flees, whatever).

Still... Power Armour is fun to make, and I'd like to properly convert some of Brother Vinni's models, not just do weapon swaps/reposing etc,.

I'd really like to see some serious conversions of Brother Vinni stuff. My mind was really racing when I was doing mine, It's the lack of suitable optional parts that was my problem, although mine are mostly just weapon swaps

My minigun is based on the BV laser Gatling upside down with scratch built barrels and weed-whacker handle.
The hardest part though, was trying to translate the paintjob. Computer games don't do metallic like paint does. The computer renders it as-if you were painting NMM. I could not reproduce these paintjobs, because t's just layers and layers of trying different things.

Messyart not making some kits for them? He has a few reposed ones in his sculpting thread over on Lead Adventure, though that may only to be better to fit the weapons he's making.

I like the idea that the Brotherhood's using it can get a hold of. Though the majority of their suits are T51-b (the suit that was in wide use by the front line military, though most suits in use by the Brotherhood come from those units stationed on the US mainland to take care of local issues), and T45-d (in use by rear military units and the National Guard). However, though the T45-d was the first suit to go into large scale use (those before it didn't handle their energy well, and it'd take till the T51-b to fully deal with these issues), there's presumably a number of variants in between it, and the most recent set to be pressed into service, alongside prototype suits. So, to get to my point, this suit, presumably a latter ml of the T45-d not pressed into widespread use, would be a dawdle to convert. Considering that the mod was creating just to replace the suit's pauldrons, and the helmet is fairly simple, it isn't particularly different from the base suit, but has a unique look to differentiate it from it, and the NCR Heavy Trooper suits.

Outcast T45-...e? Power Armour.


Ah, and T51-c (Air Force Power armour). Perhaps a development of the T51-b that fell through due to the war.


Though (seeing your updated post dsteingass ^^), the high res texture mods on the Fallout Nexus of the various armours do try and produce a realistic metallic effect. However by this I mean a metal that's suffered 200 years of corrosion, with maintenance mind, but it isn't going to shine like it would have when the thing was just off the production line. Though the suits of power armour in use by the BOS are actually just worn down to their base metal, originally the suits of T45-d they wear would have been painted in the matt drab the T51-b is, or at least some variant. Those suits that they found in the stockpile beneath the pentagon may not have been however, but by and large the bear metal armour's more just to convey the knight in rusted armour look of the faction.

Oi, and that guy with the Gatling laser's carrying it wrong! *fan-rage

I need to get the WGF zombie survivors kits as they come with a ton of AK-47's and well, I could get more Brother Vinni's minis and swap laser rifles with 'Chinese Assault rifles"

I did have a spare plasma rifle with my enclave troopers from Vinni, so one of my Brotherhood guys is holding that instead of the laser rifle.