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2014/04/09 16:55:46
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Lords (580)
Keeper of secret
Lvl 4
100 gift (exalted + lesser)
Heroes (345)
Nurgle Herald
Lvl 1
Regen loci
BSB
lesser gift (not sure if needed)
Tzeentch Herald
Lvl 2
Core (633)
Plaguebearer x26
Full command with swift banner
Pink Horror x10
Pink Horror x10
Special (490)
Beast of Nurgle x1
Beast of Nurgle x1
Beast of Nurgle x4
Chaos furies x5
Unmarked
Chaos Furies x5
Mark of Khorne
Rare (450)
Skull Cannon x2
Plague drones x3
Poison upgrade on rot flies
KoS will be most likely taking tome unless if I deem it fit, I will take balesword. (run in with support and 6 dice choir)
Not sure about 25 gift on Nurgle herald
Thinking about giving exalted loci for +1 str on magic for Tzeentch Herald after moving points around. (herald is only there so it will increase my chance of getting gateway)
I have used exalted flamer with flamers, but they did not do well. BS 4 doesn’t mean anything when you get -1 from multishot, -1 march and shoot, -1 long range, and even -1 for cover. Most of the time im hitting on 6s…
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2014/04/09 17:29:22
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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Balesword is nurgle only. And it's only for a greater roll.
I'd go for an eternal blade+asf, personally. It's easily the best combo.
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2014/04/09 19:01:26
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Oops yea that's what I meant. Eternal blade.
Any opinion about heralds and the tome? I feel like tome saved my ass so much when I used it.
Anything would be appreciated
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2014/04/09 19:11:52
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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I'd get the +1LD banner on your bearers. That way, you get LD9 on them too.
Plus, without 'nettes, you'd probably be better off with the chicken, with that setup, He's a level 4 and he guarantees gateway on your horrors. And the advantage he has over a kipper is that he can safely hide behind terrain without worrying about impassable.
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2014/04/09 19:49:55
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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I thought that too but the tourney I play in rarely has anything that is truly impassable that blocks LOS so it wouldn't help in that area.
+1 ld stacks with heralds ld?
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2014/04/09 19:54:43
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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holydakka wrote:I thought that too but the tourney I play in rarely has anything that is truly impassable that blocks LOS so it wouldn't help in that area.
+1 ld stacks with heralds ld?
It's still for the fact that you can hide him behind units without impeding his charge arc, and he helps guarantee gateway for your horrors.
And yes. If the herald is in the unit, they use his LD, as it is the highest in the unit.
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2014/04/09 20:04:12
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well that's true. I will try him out. However, I'm worried about HE and Woc players without choir. Since the random movement on them are so detrimental.
Oh okay I mean I knew about using heralds ld but I thought it would be increasing bearers ld instead of the highest one. Good to know
Any other tips?
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2014/04/09 22:39:00
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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holydakka wrote:Well that's true. I will try him out. However, I'm worried about HE and Woc players without choir. Since the random movement on them are so detrimental. Oh okay I mean I knew about using heralds ld but I thought it would be increasing bearers ld instead of the highest one. Good to know Any other tips? If you're worried about HE, then you have more reason to take the chicken. Just final trans the banner unit every turn.
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2014/04/11 07:39:38
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
Dallas, Tx
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List looks really good except i'm in agreement with dark, a LoC would work better in this list since it has the tools to deal with more than a Keeper. Fiends would work better as a screen for a them as his/her lore attribute could replenish them. Right now, your list really wouldn't be utilizing the Slaanesh Lore Attribute. Also a greater gift on your BSB could go a long way and if you don't roll the 2+ armour save gift, default to the fencers blades and laugh as most opponents need 6's to hit you in CC.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/11 07:40:07
ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+ |
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2014/04/11 15:40:00
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hmm I don't think I can add fiends because of the cost and the point effectiveness compare to beast is gakky.
However, I'm thinking about getting nettes and adding to this list so it will have some synergy with the Lord. Idk if I want 10 or 15 at this moment though.
Also if I get the nettes, that means I will probably need the Herald also. Hmm Idk.
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2014/04/11 21:33:07
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
Dallas, Tx
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What lore are you running on your DoN Herald?
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ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+ |
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2014/04/13 18:55:05
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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im going with nurgle lore on my nurgle herald
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2014/04/13 21:17:30
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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holydakka wrote:
I have used exalted flamer with flamers, but they did not do well. BS 4 doesn’t mean anything when you get -1 from multishot, -1 march and shoot, -1 long range, and even -1 for cover. Most of the time im hitting on 6s…
Odd, I see BS4 dark elves doing just fine, with -1 for multi shot, -1 for moving and shooting, and -1 for long range.
I think the key is either march ans shoot at short range, or park and shoot at long range. The unit champ with BS5 helps too; good deal for 10 points.
-Matt
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2014/04/14 02:17:28
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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haha yea most likely i wasnt using them right.
I tried going 2 exalted and 2 units of 3 flamers with no champs. it was a pretty big point sink also... 420 pts for all of em
i might try one unit next time but thats still 210 pts... i think screamers might do better at unit of 5 and thats still cheaper than exalted + 3 flamers
i will post new list soon with some changes. i have added demonettes and moved around some points.
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2014/04/15 19:19:07
Subject: 2500 daemons no special character
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Possessed Khorne Marine Covered in Spikes
Dallas, Tx
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I recently played in a 1500 pt T&T tournament with my Warriors and used 300 pts of DoC allies. My allies consisted of 2 exalted flamers and 3 flamers and i have to say they were very effective in that setting. T4 3 wounds they are tough little buggers and were able to lay waste to a couple of units before they ran into a dwarf gunline which unfortunately they couldn't outshoot.
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ToW armies I own:
Empire: 10,000+
Chaos Legions: DoC- 10,000+; WoC- 7,500+; Beastmen- 2,500+; Chaos Dwarves- 3,500+
Unaligned: Ogres- 2,500; Tomb Kings- 3,000
Hotek: Dark Elves- 7,500+; High Elves- 2,500
40k armies I own:
CSM- 25,000+ |
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2014/04/16 03:03:55
Subject: Re:2500 daemons no special character
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Fixed my list so I can have more synergy. I'm gonna post another topic with my comp list with a special character.
Lords (580)
Keeper of secret
Lvl 4
100 gift (exalted + lesser)
Heroes (360)
Nurgle Herald
Lvl 1
Regen loci
BSB
greater gift - fencers blade
slannesh herald
greater loci (asf)
Core (625)
Plaguebearer x25
Full command with ld banner
Daemonettes x20
full command with flame banner
Special (440)
Beast of Nurgle x1
Beast of Nurgle x4
Chaos furies x5
unmarked
Chaos Furies x5
unmarked
Rare (515)
Skull Cannon x1
Plague drones x3
standard
Poison upgrade on rot flies
Plague drones x3
standard
Poison upgrade on rot flies
I sacrificed 1 beast and 1 skull cannon for another unit of plague drones and daemonettes with herald.
pink horrors were good, but they were too random for my liking. I might put them back in after I use daemonettes and see how they pan out.
im hoping to get augments from nurgle lore like toughness and poison and put them on daemonettes while putting slaanesh lore frenzy on plaguebearers
and of course, 6 dice choir everytime
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/04/16 03:20:21
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