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As I'm sure many war bosses on this site are looking forward to the new codex, and on a strange impulse I decided to take them up before they get all the shiny new 6th ed rebuffs, I suppose that if you can master something while it's in a worse state you will be an expert when it gets better (my flawed ideal) an so I've gone through my collection an dug up my old orks.

At the moment I only have a few models (two black reaches more or less) about 8-900 depending on how I kit them out, and so I have two different lists that I would appreciate some criticism for and perhaps what should get next, I'm thinking about running a green tide army with a few speed freeks (deffkoptaz, war bikes and the like)

And they are as follows:

Warboss, PK, TL shoota, 'eavy armour =95

6 nobz, 6 big choppaz, 6 'eavy armour =180
4 x 12 boyz, big shoota, BC nob, 'eavy armour =97 x 4

3 deffkoptaz, 3 TL roll it launchaz = 135

=798 points

And the other being:

Warboss, PK, TL shoota, cybork, bosspole, 'eavy armour =110

9 nobz, 9 BC, 'eavy armour =270
22 boyz, 2 big shootas, BC nob, 'eavy armour =157
22 'ard boyz, 2 big shootas (warboss' unit)

3 deffkoptaz, TL rokkit launchas =135

=902 points

So any advice would be greatly appreciated (note that I intend to get to work on some PK conversions for the jobs and deffkoptaz)
Thanks

Do you know the time when the new Codex is to come out?

Unfortunately we still have a good few months before the new Ork codex.

So july or august maybe?

I dont know, but im hoping as soon as possible.

It was suppost to be October last year. Then January. Then now in place of the IG. Just keeps getting rolled on back

Hopefully they keep making us wait to keep adding more awesomesauce, now back to my army lists perhaps???


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Anyone here still stuck with orks enough to help?


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I guess not?

After about 7 or so years of not playing anything, I've just uncovered my Ork army and I'm getting stuck in again. So I probably can't advise you very well, I'm a little rusty...

But, it's worth considering 1 or 2 trukks to get der boyz in der fight a lot fasta!

I pretty much had a pure infantry army of about 1k points (though including a deff dread) but I'm getting some trukks and warbikers to get stuck in a lot quicker. Trukks are so cheap (points wise that is) that they're worth it. Your first army, the boyz are in mobs of 12 which is ideal. You've got 98 points spare, 2 trukks are 70 points, 28 points left to add ram or wreckin ball or whatever (assuming your going for 1k points). Might be worth considering

thanks, ive definitely been considering getting trukks, but the list with the 4 units of 12 is only 800, so I suppose to get the extra 200 i should stick with pimped out trukks to get to 900 and 100 left over for one more unit I suppose, (perhaps a dakkajet)

I just got orks and tried out my first game. was playing a infantry army (loads o boyz) with a dakkajet and def dread (bigmek to make him a troop) and a bunch of lootas and tankbustas for covering fire as da boyz rolled up. 1850, and while i lost to the new ig, it was really close. oh, i also had Snikrot and some Kommandos, the did a world for me, even with not getting to charge the turn they came on.

Wow your first game was 1850 points? Mine was only 800 hahaha

If you want nobz.. you probably really want the painboy , cybork , then the warboss attached to that unit.

Yeah, I would have run tem withte pain to but my FLGS isn't too find of proxies, so I try to make do with the models that I have, ive already begun converting power klaws on all of my nobz that can be switched for big choppaz and my warboss' attack squig was made by his pet mek -a canoptek scarab that he hit over the head a couple times (some look crappier than others)

If your using strong hold try 8 lootas and the boss guy in an imperial bunker w/ a Quad gun, voids, and an ammo depot.

They haven't ever died in any game I have seen and they kill something every turn.

That I think is equal to about 13 lootas but a lot more durable.

Can two fortifications be taken? Because I was considering taking an aegis defense line with quad gun and lobbas, can they both be taken because i like that idea too

You need lootas and dakkajets and nob bikers and KFF big meks. These are the best units the dex has to offer. Then the next tier are more Boyz, battle wagons, truks, burnas and mega nobz. Grots are unusual because they mostly suck... Entirely suck, but they are frequently the unit that wins a game for the Orks. You will find yourself using them frequently as filler and surprise game turnaround. Worth their points IMO.

Avoid: Flashgitz, Nob Squad (too expensive points wise), kanz (unless they go to elites as rumored), deff dreads.

One Boyz opinion... Welcome to the Waaagh

Thanks, I played/won my second game today, I was tempted to bellow WAAAGH!!! But I chickened out, one day I will...

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Can two fortifications be taken? Because I was considering taking an aegis defense line with quad gun and lobbas, can they both be taken because i like that idea too

If you take them as a formation then yes. Look at the stronghold assault book for more details...
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!

Well, if you're going to be running the 12 boy squads, you need them in trukks, especially with rams to help against DT. As for the larger squad, you need a Mek with a KFF. Think of it as giving both boy squads and the nobs all eavy armor for less than you have now. You could then take away your eavy armor and GET SOME DAMN POWER CLAWS! Each unit needs (but I reinforce NEEDS) one power claw. The squad with the warboss needs only one, give the nobz two (and diversify them for wound allocation shenenigans), and the other nob squad 2. Then I'd throw in three kannons! (my new favorite unit) You're looking at 30 points for a potential anti-infantry, anti-tank, maybe even anti-flyer (if you have multiple kannons with runts) with T7 2 rerolls and an extra grot that could potentially hold an objective with big guns never tire. That, or get lootas.

thanks, over the week ive been converting up some power klaws along with miscellaneous other works and here is the new list ive come up with:

HQ,
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1 Warboss = 120 |
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Just 'im - 60 |
Power Klaw - 25 |
Twin-linked shoota - 5 |
'eavy armour - 5 |
Attack squig - 15 |
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2 |
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ELITES
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1 |
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2 |
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3 |
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TROOPS
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1 Nobz = 290 |
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8 of 'em - 160 |
Big choppaz - 25 |
Power klaw - 50 |
'eavy armour - 30 |
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2 Boyz = 193 |
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23 of 'em - 138 |
Big shootas - 5 |
Nob leader - 10 |
Power Klaw - 25 |
'eavy armour - 5 |
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3 boyz = 193 |
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23 of 'em - 138 |
Big shootas - 5 |
Nob leader - 10 |
Power Klaw - 25 |
'eavy armour - 5 |
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4 |
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5 |
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6 Gretchin = 40 |
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10 lil'runts |
runtherd = 10 |
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FAST ATTACK
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1 Deffkoptas = 135 |
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3 of 'em - 105 |
Twin-linked rokkit launchas - 30|
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2 |
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3 |
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HEAVY SUPPORT
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1 Looted wagon = 105 |
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Boomgun - 70 |
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2 Looted wagon = 105 |
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Boomgun - 70 |
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fortifications
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Aegis defence line = 75 |
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Icarus lascannon - 25 |
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TOTAL = 1191 points


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and when I have my matches I add other little point fillers, e.g. big shootas, more power klaws/buzzsaws etc

I can't tell you much on the boy hordes (cept to max out your squads) but I can tell you via the speed freak perspective that you can't go wrong with trukks and koptas. I personally run my trukks with big shootaz, a ram, and some boarding planks so you don't get hammered with return fire. In addition to this I would take a PK nob with 11 Shoota boyz ( one of which should be a big Shoota) and that should provide some rather decent speedy anti light infantry. For koptaz, I would run them in singles to negate the leadership penalties with twin linked rokkits. As bikes go, I just find that there are to many anti cover 4 AP weapons that really negate the bonuses that war bikers have in relation to their points. Point being I just kinda run all my junk in high speed wagons. Hope this helps somewhat!