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Here a new version by me, because writing a new one is easier than to repair the old one:

The status of the Codex Militarum Tempestus has undergone some changes this month, here a chronology:

1.) Preorder and release day listed the printed Codex as "mail order only", but not as "limited" or "while supply lasts".
2.) It sold out and was removed from the website in North America on day 2 after release while still available outside North America.
3.) North America got a second shipment and the Codex was put back on the website there and is still available.
4.) 12 days after release, the Codex sold out outside North America and was listed as no longer available. Customer Service confirmed to many customers including Dakka members (so not just a rumour), that no reprint is planned, making it basically a limited release and being the reason for starting this thread.
5.) On 25th April, 20 days after release, the status of the book outside North America changed from "no longer available" to "temporarily out of stock". This is probably due to the public reaction on GW's plans to not reprint the Codex. They seem to have changed their mind on profitability of a possible reprint and are now considering it. That doesn't mean that all the customer service confirmations of "no reprint planned" never happened or that all Dakka members reporting them have been liars. GW just seems to have changed their plans now.
6.) All the while the digital edition for iPads has been available all along. There is an official statement that there are no plans for epub or mobi versions though.

BTW the current thread title was forced on me against my will.




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Pedro Kantor wrote:
The UK site has them as " temporarily out of stock " now.

 BrookM wrote:
It is now listed as Temporarily Out of Stock on the Dutch site. Yay!

Hi,
when the Codex Militarum tempestus was removed from the North American website, most people thought, it was just temporarily out of stock. Now it is gone in Europe as well and we have an semi-official statement rumor:

reader here on Faeit 212 wrote:Just to let you know the Militarum Tempestus codex was indeed limited edition.

It is now no longer available in the UK on the GW site. Someone tried to order one in my local GW today and the manager ended up ringing up head office only to be told they are all gone and there are no plans to print any more any time soon.

So the company that gave us limited edition undercoat sprays, now gives us secret Limited Edition army Codices. So if you just started a Militium Tempestus army: Congratulations, it is no longer supported after only 12 days. Hope you bought the Codex first. Or you own an iPad.


Edit: Because some people don't care to read more than 1 post of this thread:
1.) Codex MT sold out in North America one day after release, then in the last few days got a small restock while selling out in Europe and the rest of the world. GW customer service confirmed to several people including Dakka members, that no reprint is planned, so that Codex MT in printed form is indeed an unannounced limited release.

2.) There is a digital version available but only as an iBook, not in mobi or epub format. For the latter formats no release is planned according to official statement.

Or a Smartphone. Or a computer. Or anything capable of reading EPub files. Really Kroot, you've ran with that complaint and been corrected how many times now?

In the US, It's coming up for me, and availability shows "ships within 24 hours". It's webstore exclusive, not LE as far as I can tell.

The UK version does indeed show "no longer available". So, if you want one in the US, I think you better get it fast.

At least this is great news© for people hocking them on ebay.

I have no goddamn idea what Games Workshop is doing anymore.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Or a Smartphone. Or a computer. Or anything capable of reading EPub files. Really Kroot, you've ran with that complaint and been corrected how many times now?

The only versions I see on the UK site are the interactive iBook edition and the no-longer-available print book. Something about casting stones and glass houses comes to mind.

You mean the complaint that the printed book was a limited run and we were never told so? That valid complaint?

What about all those people that put off buying it for whatever reason and aren't interested in an overpriced bundle of bytes?

 -DE- wrote:
You mean the complaint that the printed book was a limited run and we were never told so? That valid complaint?

What about all those people that put off buying it for whatever reason and aren't interested in an overpriced bundle of bytes?

No the other reasonable one about all of these stupid digital products.

Also looks like it's gone in Australia, Japan and ROTW as well. I'm not checking every region since presumably all of Europe is the same but it might be only in the US & Canada.

Unless you were after the fluff, then just buy the AM, and dig through the AM rumours thread for the Orders, they're literally the only different thing. 2 codexes for the price of 1!

That said, GW are getting more and more mental. It's just unfathomable.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Or a Smartphone. Or a computer. Or anything capable of reading EPub files. Really Kroot, you've ran with that complaint and been corrected how many times now?

Not to turn this thread into a debate about GW's digital products, but Kroot has a real point. GW puts some love into their iTunes versions, but their ePub versions are absolute garbage. Incredibly hard to read or navigate, difficult to reference in a game, and generally look like crap. While their printed codexes are overpriced, there's something to be said for a physical book you can flip through and hand to your opponent, easily bookmark, etc. Even at their (slightly) reduced price, the ePub versions are simply not worth the money in my opinion. For reference during gaming (you know, the reason these products ostensibly exist), I don't think a physical book can be beat.

So every time GW puts out a dex or a supplement as a limited run like this, it shows (to me) that they couldn't give a toss about the quality of their customers' gaming experience . You didn't happen to buy the MT codex in the first month? Too bad. Find a second hand copy, or I hope you happen to have a nice enough tablet. Don't let the batteries die in the middle of a game. I could go on. It's just profit maximization, plain and simple.

oh gak, how am I going to play with my £21.50 for 5 troops now?

Who's buying this fail codex anyway?

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Or a Smartphone. Or a computer. Or anything capable of reading EPub files. Really Kroot, you've ran with that complaint and been corrected how many times now?

Next time you jump down someone's throat, it might be an idea to check you're not making a fool of yourself first; the only digital edition of Codex: Adeptus Stormtroopericus is the iPad-exclusive iBooks version, and if you have a gander at the Codex: Imperialis Guardicus rumour thread, you'll find a copy of an email response from GW stating they currently have no plans to release any other version, but may get around to it at some unspecified future point. The wording of said email also implies that this will be their model for all products going forward; simultaneous physical & iBook release(for "major" releases, otherwise iBook-only), with epub/mobi versions only if they have a slot in their release schedule and nothing else to fill it.

So it seems that those of us voicing concerns that GW's deal with Apple would make iPad-ownership mandatory to (legally)utilise GW's digital content were perfectly justified, and all the White Knightery was premature.

No plans to print a sold out book, with a brand new range of figures? It's as if they don't actually want our money.

At times I have to wonder at GW.

The sensible move here, if they are in that much trouble with cashflow or cost cutting, would be to do a deal with a print on demand publisher in the background to print and deliver with no branding, put the codex on 2 week delivery time on the webstore, pass all orders straight to the on demand people and sell it to whoever wants the thing.

 AlmightyWalrus wrote:
Or a Smartphone. Or a computer. Or anything capable of reading EPub files. Really Kroot, you've ran with that complaint and been corrected how many times now?

Actually it's only available on the Ipad, I contacted BL about it and got this reply:

Thank you for your email. We have a small Digital Editions team who work on the Codexes and digital content for our game systems. As such the Codex: Militarum Tempestus is only available on iTunes. We do not have any current plans to produce this title as a standard eBook, but we will endeavor to bring out as much of our content out as standard eBooks as the schedule allows.

So you have to buy an Ipad and if you missed the printed copy you are out of luck... unless you acquire it but "other" means (which you are forced to do now)...

What proportion of the tablet market is iPad rather than Surface or the various Android based units?

I emailed Customer Service but they're closed until Monday (observing Good Friday) so we'll see then. Either way I see no reason to panic at this point in time.

It's amazing that GW still manages to figure out new ways to surprise me with crazy business decisions.

TBH I'm not really sure why people were buying the Militarum Tempestus book. It was the same price as the Astra Militarum book, but only contained something like 4-5 units? Most of which are in the Astra Militarum book...or are they all in the AM book?

The only thing that MT had going for it were some different orders and a couple of rule changes, but honestly, are a couple of additional rules actually worth $50? On top of that you're probably using the AM book to supplement this army, and I just don't really see any value in it whatsoever.

Heck, the reviews of the book showed that even a lot of the fluff wasn't that great! It had like 5-7 pages of troopers in the exact same pose with different colors and guns, as is that was enough to constitute the price tag.

much difference, very complexity, such price! wow

I feel like GW is testing the outer boundaries of just what people will fork money over for. I don't think they have any concern for people's opinions or negative press these weird sales quirks create, they make some tweaks in the rules, create a new "codex" with only a few truly unique units, and then see how fast they sell.

It's really been a big disappointment with me personally. I was hoping the mini-codexes would deal with forces we used to think were too small to constitute an individual codex. It should have been Kroot Mercenaries, Adeptus Mechanicus, Tau Human Auxiliaries, Genestealer Cults, etc. etc. It still could be one day, but so far all we've gotten is: Robot Marines, Ghost Rider Marines, Imperial Fists, and Stormtroopers.

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I emailed Customer Service but they're closed until Monday (observing Good Friday) so we'll see then. Either way I see no reason to panic at this point in time.

.

Do you not have Easter Monday in the USA? It is a holiday in Britain.

 Accolade wrote:
TBH I'm not really sure why people were buying the Militarum Tempestus book. It was the same price as the Astra Militarum book, but only contained something like 4-5 units? Most of which are in the Astra Militarum book...or are they all in the AM book?

The only thing that MT had going for it were some different orders and a couple of rule changes, but honestly, are a couple of additional rules actually worth $50? On top of that you're probably using the AM book to supplement this army, and I just don't really see any value in it whatsoever.

Heck, the reviews of the book showed that even a lot of the fluff wasn't that great! It had like 5-7 pages of troopers in the exact same pose with different colors and guns, as is that was enough to constitute the price tag.

much difference, very complex, such price! wow

I feel like GW is testing the outer boundaries of just what people will fork money over for. I don't think they have any concern for people's opinions or negative press these weird sales quirks create, they make some tweaks in the rules, create a new "codex" with only a few truly unique units, and then see how fast they sell.

It's really been a big disappointment with me personally. I was hoping the mini-codexes would deal with forces we used to think were too small to constitute an individual codex. It should have been Kroot Mercenaries, Adeptus Mechanicus, Tau Human Auxiliaries, Genestealer Cults, etc. etc. It still could be one day, but so far all we've gotten is: Robot Marines, Ghost Rider Marines, Imperial Fists, and Stormtroopers.

The mini-dexes let you field the force as a stand along (so they don't have to take all the Guard stuff), or as allies without taking Guard so it's got a point. It's just not worth $50 (then again I don't think codexes in general should be $50).

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I emailed Customer Service but they're closed until Monday (observing Good Friday) so we'll see then. Either way I see no reason to panic at this point in time.

Do you not have Easter Monday in the USA? It is a holiday in Britain.

Alas, I know I do not KK, I've never had a job in the US where they observed time off for Easter. Heck, I work at Duke University, a private university, and they still don't give us off time off! (I say this because I wouldn't expect it as much from a state program)

 Kilkrazy wrote:

 ClockworkZion wrote:
I emailed Customer Service but they're closed until Monday (observing Good Friday) so we'll see then. Either way I see no reason to panic at this point in time.

.

Do you not have Easter Monday in the USA? It is a holiday in Britain.

And in Canada! But no, we have Easter on Sunday and that's pretty much it.

 Accolade wrote:
TBH I'm not really sure why people were buying the Militarum Tempestus book. It was the same price as the Astra Militarum book, but only contained something like 4-5 units? Most of which are in the Astra Militarum book...or are they all in the AM book?

The only thing that MT had going for it were some different orders and a couple of rule changes, but honestly, are a couple of additional rules actually worth $50? On top of that you're probably using the AM book to supplement this army, and I just don't really see any value in it whatsoever.

Heck, the reviews of the book showed that even a lot of the fluff wasn't that great! It had like 5-7 pages of troopers in the exact same pose with different colors and guns, as is that was enough to constitute the price tag.

much difference, very complexity, such price! wow

I feel like GW is testing the outer boundaries of just what people will fork money over for. I don't think they have any concern for people's opinions or negative press these weird sales quirks create, they make some tweaks in the rules, create a new "codex" with only a few truly unique units, and then see how fast they sell.

It's really been a big disappointment with me personally. I was hoping the mini-codexes would deal with forces we used to think were too small to constitute an individual codex. It should have been Kroot Mercenaries, Adeptus Mechanicus, Tau Human Auxiliaries, Genestealer Cults, etc. etc. It still could be one day, but so far all we've gotten is: Robot Marines, Ghost Rider Marines, Imperial Fists, and Stormtroopers.

To be paranoid and cynical, perhaps GW thought most people would quickly realise that the Tempestuous Milites book is a waste of money, so they printed just about to sell out before word would get around. I mean, they aren't know for previews and advanced information on new products.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
What proportion of the tablet market is iPad rather than Surface or the various Android based units?

I think it's about 50/50, but with android outselling ipad. But then you also have to ask what proportion of the wargaming community doesn't own a tablet in the first place.

 Kilkrazy wrote:

Spoiler:

 Accolade wrote:
TBH I'm not really sure why people were buying the Militarum Tempestus book. It was the same price as the Astra Militarum book, but only contained something like 4-5 units? Most of which are in the Astra Militarum book...or are they all in the AM book?

The only thing that MT had going for it were some different orders and a couple of rule changes, but honestly, are a couple of additional rules actually worth $50? On top of that you're probably using the AM book to supplement this army, and I just don't really see any value in it whatsoever.

Heck, the reviews of the book showed that even a lot of the fluff wasn't that great! It had like 5-7 pages of troopers in the exact same pose with different colors and guns, as is that was enough to constitute the price tag.

much difference, very complexity, such price! wow

I feel like GW is testing the outer boundaries of just what people will fork money over for. I don't think they have any concern for people's opinions or negative press these weird sales quirks create, they make some tweaks in the rules, create a new "codex" with only a few truly unique units, and then see how fast they sell.

It's really been a big disappointment with me personally. I was hoping the mini-codexes would deal with forces we used to think were too small to constitute an individual codex. It should have been Kroot Mercenaries, Adeptus Mechanicus, Tau Human Auxiliaries, Genestealer Cults, etc. etc. It still could be one day, but so far all we've gotten is: Robot Marines, Ghost Rider Marines, Imperial Fists, and Stormtroopers.

To be paranoid and cynical, perhaps GW thought most people would quickly realise that the Tempestuous Milites book is a waste of money, so they printed just about to sell out before word would get around. I mean, they aren't know for previews and advanced information on new products.

Well, I don't even think that line of thinking is really all that cynical. I think even GW realizes the depreciating value of this sort of product. That's why it came out a week before AM, to capitalize on the buzz around that and satiate a couple customers who couldn't wait until AM came out to play new Guard.

It's not a bad business decision, I'm just surprised it wasn't sold more as LE thing. I guess they figured that having an iProduct version was good enough since sales on MT would plummet a week or so after AM was released.

Seems a little weird. Anyone else tried contacting GW about it?

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But then you also have to ask what proportion of the wargaming community doesn't own a tablet in the first place.

And what proportion of GW exclusive gamers own Apples over Androids. I don't think it's too out-of-line to say that there's probably a stronger personality overlap between Apple and GW exclusive owners than Android / other wargame brands.

 Compel wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
But then you also have to ask what proportion of the wargaming community doesn't own a tablet in the first place.

And what proportion of GW exclusive gamers own Apples over Androids. I don't think it's too out-of-line to say that there's probably a stronger personality overlap between Apple and GW exclusive owners than Android / other wargame brands.

Well, of course that's not out of line! Assuming you aren't just pulling it out of your ass, that is. You're not, right?

 Bull0 wrote:
Seems a little weird. Anyone else tried contacting GW about it?

Yes. And here's the automated email response I got:

Hello,

Thanks for writing in to us! Our offices will be closed Friday April 18th in observance of Good Friday. We will be back in office on Monday the 21st. We will work to complete your email and respond to you as fast as we can.

My apologies for the inconvenience.


--


Games Workshop

North America Customer Services

So we can't find out before then what they have to say (in the US that is).

From the MT tactics thread:

The Orders are as Follows :(Note the lack of First Line Fire! Second Line Fire!)
Directed Firestorm Sanctioned: the unit must shoot, but all fired weapons (no restrictions) are twinlinked for this shooting attack.
Autonomous Fire Sanctioned: The unit must make a shooting attack, all models in the unit gain Preferred Enemy for this attack.
Close Assault Doctrine Sanctioned: The Unit has the Crusader Special Rule for the rest of the turn.
Advance On Target: The unit gains Fleet for the rest of the turn
Suppression Doctrine Sanctioned: the unit must make a shooting attack, all hotshot lasguns and hot shot laspistols can only fire a single shot, but gain the Sniper and Pinning special rules. Also the unit cannot charge in the following Assault Phase.
Elimination Protocol Sanctioned: The unit must fire at a vehicle or Monstrous Creature. All shots fired at said target gain Rending.

That's literally all you need to play MT. C&P that into a word doc, put it in your AM codex, and there you go, MT army. All you have to do is point out to your opponent that 'these guys (Command Squad) are HQ and these guys (Scions) are troops.' GW are being stupid here, but it's not the end of the world.

 Bull0 wrote:

 Compel wrote:

And what proportion of GW exclusive gamers own Apples over Androids. I don't think it's too out-of-line to say that there's probably a stronger personality overlap between Apple and GW exclusive owners than Android / other wargame brands.

Well, of course that's not out of line! Assuming you aren't just pulling it out of your ass, that is. You're not, right?

Only mostly out of there. The rest of it is anecdotal.