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Made in au
Been Around the Block





Ok so I've never used any variant of the Space Marines.. So any C&C would be appreciated.
I'm going for a fast paced White Scars list, this is what I've come up with..

I've tried to keep in fluffy-ish too

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Chapter Tactics
- White Scars

Command Squad 230pts
- Bikes
- Apothecary
- Veterans x4
- Power Lance / Storm Shield Combo x2
- Grav-guns x2

HQ

Kor'Sarro Khan 150pts
- Moondrakken

Librarian 110pts
- Mastery level 2
- Bike

TROOPS

Bike Squad 252pts
- Sergeant (w/ Power Sword and Melta Bombs)
- Bikes x6
- Grav-gun x2
- Attack Bike (w/ Multi-Melta)

Bike Squad 252pts
- Sergeant (w/ Power Sword and Melta Bombs)
- Bikes x6
- Grav-gun x2
- Attack Bike (w/ Multi-Melta)

Bike Squad 252pts
- Sergeant (w/ Power Sword and Melta Bombs)
- Bikes x6
- Grav-gun x2
- Attack Bike (w/ Multi-Melta)

Bike Squad 252pts
- Sergeant (w/ Power Sword and Melta Bombs)
- Bikes x6
- Grav-gun x2
- Attack Bike (w/ Multi-Melta)

FAST ATTACK

Land Speeder Squadron 150pts
- Speeders (w/ Typhoon Missile Launcher and Heavy Bolter) x2

Land Speeder Squadron 150pts
- Speeders (w/ Typhoon Missile Launcher and Heavy Bolter) x2

HEAVY SUPPORT

Stormraven Gunship 200pts
- Twin-Linked Assault Cannons
- Twin-Linked Multi-Meltas
- Storm Strike Missile

Total Points at 1998. I've tried to keep it relatively versatile to deal with most things, any hints or help from seasoned White Scars Players?

You call that a Waaagh? This.. Is a Waaagh!!
That's not a Waagh! That's a spoon..
Hmm.. I see you've played Waaaghy - Spoony before.. 
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran




The fact that it's actually a white scars list is impressive. Many times someone will claim to have a certain list only for me to see that only about half their list fits the claim
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator




Sacramento, CA

Only things I can think of are to take out the command squad for another troop bike unit *more to score with* and also take out the stormraven for a stalker *its cheaper and still accomplishes the skyfire job quite well* and if you really want take two of them for still 50pts cheaper than the raven. That should also leave you with a few extra points.

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Made in au
Been Around the Block





Another scoring unit probably wouldn't hurt, but depending on the opponent and game type I can combat squad them for more scoring units. The Stalker seems a bit slow.. I want fluffy haha

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/23 01:59:49


You call that a Waaagh? This.. Is a Waaagh!!
That's not a Waagh! That's a spoon..
Hmm.. I see you've played Waaaghy - Spoony before.. 
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator




Sacramento, CA

Stalker might be slow but its only job is AA and target supression, 48" range with those 4 shots is pretty good and for the price of one raven you can take two stalkers or one stalker with another partial bike unit. Without any unit to transport i just feel like you would be wasting points on the raven.

Other than that though i would say its a pretty solid list

And just saying, bikes are hardly fluffy lol. Turbo boost ftw

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Made in gb
Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator






The Midlands

Althougyh I like it, I feel you're trying to do everything with a few units. Just dropping all the multi melta attack bikes can get you a decent squad of sternguard in a pod.

The command squad are really good with T5 FNP so I wouldn't drop it.

Finally, I also agree that the stormraven will probably be easily outdone by other flyers, and a couple of the anti-air tanks in whichever flavour you like would be better, Also frees up a few more points for those sternguard

 
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator




Sacramento, CA

I feel like the command squad would be wasting a few points. For just 22 points more you can have an extra troop choice giving himore scoring options and more bodies on the field. *8 bikes with an attack bike in the troop unit versus 5 in the command squad. Both the command squad and the troop bikes are T5 with W1. Also so he can keep it mobile i dont know if he will want to use those sternguard. They will just get bogged down after their first strike as the rest of his army is focused on being agile and fast.

FNP wont matter to much for one squad anyway. An average of 2 guys from it will live one extra round and that still puts the squad at "7" bikes strong versus a troop choice of 8 bikes strong

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Made in gb
Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator






The Midlands

The command squad adds a good escort for khan and the libby, or else they'll be charging with a unit that isn't capable of doing much at all. He's got storm shields which adds something against low AP stuff too so they don't go on the HQ's.

It's not as though 4 fast and tough troops isn't enough, having the command squad adds more flexibility IMHO.

 
   
Made in us
Death-Dealing Devastator




Sacramento, CA

I just feel like its not necessary as all bikes that are moving *as they should be* have jink saves anyway. And khan already has an inv save anyway. These are just my thoughts though. I just have a hard time justifying the high cost of the command squad since your characters can just join any normal unit to about the same effect.

Plus who doesn't like 10 combat squads of bike troops?
   
Made in au
Been Around the Block





The only thing I'm worried about with the Hunters / Stalkers is that they'll be targeted and destroyed before the opponents Flyer gets on the table. At least with my own flyer I can stay safe in reserves then roll out and try and kill their flyers.

Also, if I were to roll with some Sternguard what would be a good loadout for them? As I've never seen them be used haha.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/28 04:37:35


You call that a Waaagh? This.. Is a Waaagh!!
That's not a Waagh! That's a spoon..
Hmm.. I see you've played Waaaghy - Spoony before.. 
   
 
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