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So I'm dilly dallying with logos for my IG Regiment (Connough Rangers) and I've settled on two designs. I plan to print them out as custom transfers so I need some advice. White, if you don't know, doesn't print unless you have something around the white (circle, whatever have you). So I'd love some suggestions on what to put around the harp and skull in order for it to print properly!

Potential Logos:

I like the simplicity of the top one and would just do a black outline around it. What will be the colours of the armour etc?

First one. I like the harp and scroll design. I'd consider dropping the skull, personally, but that's just me.

The first one, definitely. The second is too busy and the crossed guns is painfully cliche.

Logo? I thought it said Lego. I was expecting a Lego minis.

I like the second one. Keep the skull, makes it more 40Kish.

Davor wrote:
Logo? I thought it said Lego. I was expecting a Lego minis.

I like the second one. Keep the skull, makes it more 40Kish.

Or make a harp out of a skull....

Oh! Sorry. Colour scheme for the troops is standard Cadian, Castellan Green and Khaki fatigues. See, I would have the harp on its own, but I feel I need the IG skull in there to make it more...IG instead of Irish. The problem with the skull and harp on its own when downsized might look a bit different (in Northern Ireland, a harp and crown in the same fashion was the cap badge of an Army regiment which some people might disagree with, and I don't want to cause offense)

The skull's gotta stay, it's the primary symbol of the Imperial Guard (referencing, simultaneously, the martyrdom of Olanius Pius, the martyrdom of the God-Emperor and the martyrdom of all the men and women of the Imperial Guard who have given their lives in His service). The top-most symbol, lacking the crossed guns, is the best, IMO. Simple and direct, and doesn't look over-busy or like a NASCAR racer with its sponsor logos.

Given its shape, I would go with a black rectangle around it. Not only would it offer a nice contrasting color, but would also kind of be a nod to the black-on-green unit insignia that is found in most modern military uniforms. Or maybe like a black (or white) diamond or similar polygon. You could even get a bit creative and have the sides be straight lines, but the top and bottom of the border be slightly angled, either to rise as points in the middle, or to have the top slope one way, the bottom another, or some combination thereof. I think such non-standard designs (compared to common RL military insignia) add a bit of sci-fi flair.

Threw in the Castellan Green (although it looks a little grey to me) and a black diamond. I think it looks pretty nice!



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That looks sweet as hell.

 RageExpressive wrote:
Threw in the Castellan Green (although it looks a little grey to me) and a black diamond. I think it looks pretty nice!



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I like!

Cheers for the feedback guys, it'll be a while before I get the paper or ink needed but I'll make sure to show you guys the results!

EDIT: For anyone interested, my army is based on ALL Irish units which served with the British Army over the past 400 years. The name of the regiment itself is from the Connaught Rangers (who were nicknamed The Devil's Own). The number of the Regiment itself (92nd) is because in 1992, all of the Irish regiments in the British Army (bar the Irish Guards) were merged into one. While 'Clear the Way!' in Gaelic (Faugh a Ballagh) has long been the motto of Irish troops fighting for the Queen.

Pics of inspiration:

 RageExpressive wrote:
Oh! Sorry. Colour scheme for the troops is standard Cadian, Castellan Green and Khaki fatigues. See, I would have the harp on its own, but I feel I need the IG skull in there to make it more...IG instead of Irish. The problem with the skull and harp on its own when downsized might look a bit different (in Northern Ireland, a harp and crown in the same fashion was the cap badge of an Army regiment which some people might disagree with, and I don't want to cause offense)

You're not worried about offending millions of Guiness drinkers though...?

I like the first one best mate!

The cláirseach isn't exclusively to do with Guinness. It appears on the Irish Coat of Arms and has long been the symbol of my home

The first one is indeed the best. You should never make logos unnecessarily complicated like the second.
I really like the version with the black diamond around it.
The skull makes it look real Warhammery. There can be no Warhammer without skulls.

I agree the first one looks sweet, same goes when its on the black diamond.

With the second one featuring the crossed lasuns, maybe that would work nicely on any tanks/vehicles where you have more space and flat surfaced to breakup, would be real nice on a Valkyrie nose too.

 RageExpressive wrote:
Threw in the Castellan Green (although it looks a little grey to me) and a black diamond. I think it looks pretty nice!



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This logo is SWEEEEEEEEEEEEET. Nice design and colors! I'll be happy if you create a P&M blog and post your progress

I love the look of the harp, will look great on an IG army.

Personally I prefer the first choice.

Apologies for the necro, but I thought I'd give you guys an little update. I went ahead and made flashes for the Artillery Company ( 4th Connough Dragoons) as well as the Special Forces (Sniper Team and Karskin) (21st C Specials) that are attached to the 92nd. Being from the same planet, I believe they'd share similar insignia.

Some of the thought process behind the new logos:

The Irish Wolfhound is one of the most famous dog breeds (as well as being the largest) in the world. They have long been used as mascots for Irish military units. I thought the large, scary dog (although they aren't scary in real life) was perfect for my elite teams. However, I'm having some difficulty with getting the logo just right. The image ended up very jagged and I tried smoothing out the edges to no great success :( Any photoshop guru who wishes to have a crack at it, feel free, I would be forever in your debt.



As for the Mounted Micks (Regimental Nickname), their logo is based on the classic Celtic Knot. Strangely, many of our cousins across the sea (affectionately refered to as Yanks ) believe this to be some sort of love symbol, associated with marriage (tying the knot and what not). Its actually just a bit of decoration. However, keeping with that train of thought, I got to thinking. What better way to tear asunder (let no man tear asunder etc heh heh heh) than an Earthshaker round for the lovely couple!

Hmm... I think I like it with the Harp more than I do the dog.

The dog's face might look good done on the business end of a tank's main gun, or on the sponsons or something.

Harp, ftw.

If you've read the posts, you'll realise each logo :3

The Harp or cláirseach is for my line infantry Company (around 100 Guardsmen).
The Wolfhound is for my Special Forces (a Special Weapons Team (Snipers) and Karskin team) unit
The Knot is for my Armored Company (Leman Russ Platoon, Basilisk Platoon, Baneblade and Salamander Command Vehicle)

Thats what each is to be used for :3 I just need to touch up the Wolfhound before printing off the transfers!!

Aren't they part of the same Regiment, though? As in, separate Companies of the same IG Regiment? In such a case, the Regimental colors/symbol wouldn't change, but you might wear a different symbol on your other shoulder.

Nope, its three seperate Regiments coming together as part of the 36th (Connough) Division. My army stands as follows:

Alpha Coy, 92nd Connough Rangers (Infantry Company of approx 100 men, lead by Coirnal Roibard Scot). Also known as 'The Devil's Own'
Omega Squadron, 4th Connough Dragoons (Armor Squadron consisting of whats mentioned above)
Whiskey Platoon, 21st C Specials (Elite of the planet's armed forces. Currently assigned to the Division are 6 man Sniper Team and 10 man Karskin/Stormtroopers/whatever)

Hmm... doesn't quite fit the standard IG fluff. For them, the Regiment is the largest unit. The Departmento Munitorum might group Regiments together into ad-hoc formations for a specific purpose, but a single world that raises forces for the IG as part of their tithe ships them off as single Regiments, often numbering thousands to tens-of-thousands of soldiers each, depending on the world in question and its Tithe requirements.

In short, there's no "Division" classification in the IG, hence my confusion. So, "by the book", assuming that the planet they're from is Connough, these three groups would be the entirety of the "92nd Connough Rangers" Regiment, and it would be a mechanized infantry Regiment, having a core of standard light infantry (the Devil's Own), a contingent of armored suport (Dragoons), and an elite heavy infantry/special operations section (21st C Specials).

Of course, this doesn't stop the studio from having Regiments that go against the norm. The Vostroyan Firstborn, for example, are only every reinforced by more Vostroyans, which is highly unusual for the IG. Usually, Regiments are forced to replace combat losses with local recruits, or fight until casualties render them "destroyed"; rarely does an IG Regiment ever muster out of service.

Another example of the latter case would be the Tanith First-And-Only, which replaces its combat losses by absorbing the remnants of other light infantry Regiments from other worlds that are as badly-mauled as they are. Towards the end of the series, there were fewer native-born Tanith in the Regiment than there were people from other planets.

Anyway...

Going with the idea that these are, in a sense, three separate Regiments combined into a single combined-arms unit by the DM for whatever reason, then... I dunno. I still think the dog looks kind of goofy. The knotwork I can dig, though I still think that it would look better as a separate icon on the armor (like the white cross or the star on WW2 vehicles which was separate from its unit insignia or national flag)... and I think the dog's head would work better in that sort of function, as a separate thing from its unit insignia, especially if you intend on fielding these units on the table together, as it having the skull-and-harp omnipresent on the units identifies a common force-organization, while separating out the squads/vehicles with their unique markings elsewhere (on a hull plate or on the side of a helmet for the heavy infantry, for example) both marks those units as "special" in some way, even if the opponent doesn't know the fluff to the Regiment, these units with the knotwork or the dog's head are more visually-striking than the units without, but they're all obviously the same IG Regiment, as depicted by the common skull-and-harp symbol.

 RageExpressive wrote:
Threw in the Castellan Green (although it looks a little grey to me) and a black diamond. I think it looks pretty nice!



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Wow... I am impressed, looks really cool.