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2014/07/20 14:18:39
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Hello everyone!
I just saved from the dust my old bretonnian army, and i was wondering how i could field it again in the 8th (i stopped playing just after the 6th!).
So, after a short research i made this:
note: i'm not trying to make a tournament army, just an enjoyable one who doesn't get hammered before mid-game
Lords:
Bretonnian lord, questing vow, shield, Sword of the quest, Obsidian Trinket, Virtue of the impetuous Knight
Prophetess of the Lady, Bretonnian Horse, Lvl 3, Silver mirror
So a defensive Lord Wizard and a rounded lord, who ignores armors and gives +d6" on charges
Heroes:
Damsel of the lady, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 1
BSB Paladin, Banner of defense, Questing vow
To keep my knights alive after fire.
Core Troops:
Knights Of the realm (10x), full command
Knights Of the realm (10x), full command, Banner of Swiftness
Peasant Bowmen (12x)
Special units
Pegasus Knights (3x), Champion
Questing Knights, Champion and standard Bearer
well i just like them!
Rare Troops
Trebuchet
Grail Knights (6x), musician, Standard Bearer with lichebone pennant
The idea is to hold the flanks with the grails and the questings, while my main force charges a softened enemy (thanks to the damsel/prophetess, archers)
Tell me what do you think (especially about the 8th' synergies, since i haven't mastered the new rules yet!)
Thanks!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/20 18:25:08
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2014/07/20 15:17:37
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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It looks pretty good to a non-bretonian player except 12 bowmen wont do much if anything so try dropping them and finding points for a second treb.
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
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2014/07/20 16:45:18
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Well, it is cheaper so i could add a couple of knights...i guess i'll recycle the gondor's one!
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2014/07/20 17:11:48
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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sedobren wrote:Well, it is cheaper so i could add a couple of knights...i guess i'll recycle the gondor's one!
They will help screen for your treb but i wouldnt count on them doing much more then 4-5 wounds the entire game. They are good bunkers and screeners but as far as damage output they are still bs3? str3 and 24" range right? so they wont have too many rounds shooting at any one target, they will hit most of the time on 5's so 3-4 hits per shooting and ~2 wounds assuming they have any kind of armor 1 dead model a shooting phase. Just off the top of my head for t3 chaff/warmachine hunters. Could be better could be worse.
Other bret players may know better but I think you might be able to free up points by removing a unit of knights. I would consider dropping a unit of KOTR and beefing up your grail or questing knights to 9-12 and add your characters for a super deathstar. That gives you 3 knight busses, a unit of peg knights (which might be able to be bumped to 4) and the free points for bowmen screeners for your trebs. From what i have seen brets really rely on blowing up blocks on the charge so they put big holes in battle lines riding right through. Another thing to consider is downgrading one unit of KOTR to knights errant with the erranty banner to make them viable.
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
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2014/07/20 17:52:15
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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That's interesting, in fact in most of the game i've seen so far in my club (where i play 40k) roughly all of the armies employ some klind of deathstar units!
By the way, i just remembered that the bowmen have longbows, so maybe 30" isn't that bad..what if i drop one KOTR unit, pump the other one up to the minimum requirements and stuff the rest of the points in bowmen and realms?
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2014/07/20 18:05:36
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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sedobren wrote:That's interesting, in fact in most of the game i've seen so far in my club (where i play 40k) roughly all of the armies employ some klind of deathstar units!
By the way, i just remembered that the bowmen have longbows, so maybe 30" isn't that bad..what if i drop one KOTR unit, pump the other one up to the minimum requirements and stuff the rest of the points in bowmen and realms?
Show me
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon? |
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2014/07/20 18:28:01
Subject: Re:Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Lords:
Bretonnian lord, questing vow, shield, Sword of the quest, Obsidian Trinket, Virtue of the impetuous Knight
Prophetess of the Lady, Bretonnian Horse, Lvl 3, Silver mirror
So a defensive Lord Wizard and a rounded lord, who ignores armors and gives +d6" on charges
Heroes:
Damsel of the lady, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 1
BSB Paladin, Banner of defense, Questing vow
To keep my knights alive after fire.
Core Troops:
Knights Errant (6x), full command, errantry banner
Knights Of the realm (10x), full command, Banner of Swiftness
Peasant Bowmen (16x)
Special units
Pegasus Knights (3x), Champion
Questing Knights, full command
well i just like them!
Rare Troops
Trebuchet
Trebuchet
Grail Knights (6x), musician, Standard Bearer with lichebone pennant
What do you think? the errant knights are a strength 6 charging unit, and with a carefully deployment i could use it to take down big stuff.
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2014/07/20 18:43:38
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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I think 6 is too small for your knights, all of them. I would have lance formations of at least 9 models no less.
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon? |
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2014/07/21 04:21:54
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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If you're going for errants, go big or go home. 12 with the character wall. The knights themselves don't fight very well, and aren't very tough. Most Bret players prefer KoTR for that reason.
As for The Lord, I'd take the virtue of heroism. Give him the sword of swift slaying + enchanted shield + dawnstone + the virtue and most things will be afraid of him.
Otherwise, lores need to be stated in your list.
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2014/07/21 06:17:50
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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thedarkavenger wrote:If you're going for errants, go big or go home. 12 with the character wall. The knights themselves don't fight very well, and aren't very tough. Most Bret players prefer KoTR for that reason.
As for The Lord, I'd take the virtue of heroism. Give him the sword of swift slaying + enchanted shield + dawnstone + the virtue and most things will be afraid of him.
Otherwise, lores need to be stated in your list.
They are viable with the errantry banner. Gives them that boost they need
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon? |
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2014/07/21 08:19:47
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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namiel wrote: thedarkavenger wrote:If you're going for errants, go big or go home. 12 with the character wall. The knights themselves don't fight very well, and aren't very tough. Most Bret players prefer KoTR for that reason.
As for The Lord, I'd take the virtue of heroism. Give him the sword of swift slaying + enchanted shield + dawnstone + the virtue and most things will be afraid of him.
Otherwise, lores need to be stated in your list.
They are viable with the errantry banner. Gives them that boost they need
They still need the character wall and a large unit. That's the thing brets do best.
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2014/07/21 10:07:06
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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So i should add one more paladin?
about the lord, if i recall right the virtue of heroism only works with non-magical weapons!
About the lores i was thinking with the lore of beasts for damsel and the lore of life for the prophetess in the big KOTR unit.
About the unit size, i'm worried that 12+3 characters unit means 5 ranks cavalry: in't that too deep to be moved around?
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2014/07/21 18:49:16
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Stubborn Dark Angels Veteran Sergeant
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sedobren wrote:So i should add one more paladin?
about the lord, if i recall right the virtue of heroism only works with non-magical weapons!
About the lores i was thinking with the lore of beasts for damsel and the lore of life for the prophetess in the big KOTR unit.
About the unit size, i'm worried that 12+3 characters unit means 5 ranks cavalry: in't that too deep to be moved around?
5 ranks deep and lance formation???? it means MURDER. Yes it COULD be tough to move but god help whatever it hits
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RoperPG wrote:Blimey, it's very salty in here...
Any more vegans want to put forth their opinions on bacon? |
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2014/07/21 19:01:59
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Give your mages a lvl. It's a must.
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2014/07/22 09:15:33
Subject: Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Ok, so i remove the questing knights and i add more grail/knights of the realm! Automatically Appended Next Post: Lords:
Bretonnian lord, questing vow, shield, Sword of the quest, Obsidian Trinket, Virtue of the impetuous Knight
Prophetess of the Lady, Bretonnian Horse, Lvl 3, Silver mirror
So a defensive Lord Wizard and a rounded lord, who ignores armors and gives +d6" on charges
Heroes:
Damsel of the lady, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 1
BSB Paladin, Banner of defense, Questing vow
To keep my knights alive after fire.
Core Troops:
Knights Errant (9x), full command, errantry banner
Knights Of the realm (12x), full command, Banner of Swiftness
Peasant Bowmen (16x)
Special units
Pegasus Knights (3x), Champion
Rare Troops
Trebuchet
Trebuchet
Grail Knights (7x), musician, Standard Bearer with lichebone pennant
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/07/22 09:18:15
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2014/07/23 03:30:44
Subject: Re:Bretonnia 2000
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Paramount Plague Censer Bearer
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Virtue of heroism now works with magic weapons. The FAQ simply says this vow now gives you HKB. No stipulations. Which is why MOST people take it on their lord.
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2014/07/23 10:39:50
Subject: Re:Bretonnia 2000
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Lords:
Bretonnian lord, questing vow, shield, Sord of Swiftness, Dawnsotne, Virtue of heroism
Prophetess of the Lady, Bretonnian Horse, Lvl 3 (Lore Of life) , Silver mirror
Heroes:
Damsel of the lady, Dispel Scroll, Lvl 2 (Lore of Life)
BSB Paladin, Banner of defense, Questing vow
To keep my knights alive after fire.
Core Troops:
Knights Errant (9x), full command, errantry banner
Knights Of the realm (12x), full command, Banner of Swiftness
Peasant Bowmen (16x)
Special units
Pegasus Knights (3x), Champion
Rare Troops
Trebuchet
Trebuchet
Grail Knights (7x), musician, Standard Bearer
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