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I wonder does anyone think that Morrowan allies could be expanded upon? Like a unit of Precurors with one less arm, one more def, blessed reach weapons, and no shield wall (but maybe defensive line) and instead of spell ward perhaps an ability that means if a model in the unit gets killed by a spell the unit can advance a bit? Does anyone that that would be cool? or is it just me? and what do people think should released for more Morrowan ally units/solos (dont need 'jacks as they arent a faction, but some more options of Morrowan units/solos to take with Mercs or Cygnar)

There are a lot of threads on the main forum discussing just this. Bastion-Morrowans effectively, extra small based units, solos, all sorts of stuff. It certainly seems like something that people want, we just aren't getting it.

And that's ok, because they give us stuff like Tempest Blazers, which are just amazingly cool themselves.

I do love the blazers (never used them but they look so cool!) but I will never relent in my want for more Morrow units/solos, I mean they don't need to be a faction, we already have a crazy religious faction but I would sell my soul (if I wasn't ginger and therefor lacked a soul) for more Morrow!

I think it is likely at some point. But they have tons of ideas and can only do so many so fast.

IMO, I'd like to see them as even another faction. Maybe something like they did with Cephelyx.

In the meantime you can convert your own. Some ideas are to use boomhowler rules and bastion models with morrow iconography.

I barely trust myself to put together the base minis right, Morrow forbid try and convert some!

I would like them as a faction but arent PoM a religious army with lots of anti-spell stuff, so would a Morrow army be to similar? although...if any modelers in the UK wanna help me convert a Cygnar army into a Morrow army I can pay you in bacon and/or cookies

 DukeBadham wrote:
I barely trust myself to put together the base minis right, Morrow forbid try and convert some!

I would like them as a faction but arent PoM a religious army with lots of anti-spell stuff, so would a Morrow army be to similar? although...if any modelers in the UK wanna help me convert a Cygnar army into a Morrow army I can pay you in bacon and/or cookies

This may be relevant to your interests:

http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=104515

Wow...read through all of that and it looks awesome, I dont trust myself with many things but I am tempted to steal some ideas from there, especially the journeyman Warcaster conversion!

EDIT: Anyone know a good bits provider in the UK that stocks Warmahordes bits? Thanks in advance!

They need to re-do Cygnar into something like a Protecterate of Morrow, led by Czar Allister.... I want to make the unbelievers heed the truth of Morrow or alternatively get electrocuted

On a more serious note, the main PP forum has a thread of homebrews that include Cygnar and allies, hopefully to be adapted for the official game sometime.

 sing your life wrote:
On a more serious note, the main PP forum has a thread of homebrews that include Cygnar and allies, hopefully to be adapted for the official game sometime.

Homebrews can not ever become official due to legal reasons.

Hey, morrowans have it good: how many thamarite models are there ?
I am kidding, but still interested in the answer: which models are morrowans and thamarites respectively?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Hey, morrowans have it good: how many thamarite models are there ?
I am kidding, but still interested in the answer: which models are morrowans and thamarites respectively?

Morrowans;

Constance Blaize
Gallant (he's a jack, but he's Morrowan)
Precursor Knights & UA
Harlan Versh

Thamarite;
Fiona the Black
Ragman

I...think that's it. Alexia has animosity Morrowan, but isn't a Thamarite.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Hey, morrowans have it good: how many thamarite models are there ?
I am kidding, but still interested in the answer: which models are morrowans and thamarites respectively?

Morrowans: Constance Blaize, Gallant, Precursor Knights + UA, and Harlan Versh.

Thamarites: Fiona the Black and Ragman.

By 2 seconds. Mod gods win again.

Sorry, that's kind of spammy and beneath me. Thamarites do need more units, and I believe there is an allowance made in Fiona's theme force for Thamarite units? I can't remember though. So they may be intended for release eventually, but much like other theme forces, they are a gap that may not be filled for quite a while.

 motyak wrote:
By 2 seconds. Mod gods win again.

Sorry, that's kind of spammy and beneath me. Thamarites do need more units, and I believe there is an allowance made in Fiona's theme force for Thamarite units? I can't remember though. So they may be intended for release eventually, but much like other theme forces, they are a gap that may not be filled for quite a while.

I believe the upcoming Pirate 3 man unit is going to be Thamarite.

Thanks for the info. Do thamarite even work together? That is kind of required to make a thamarite unit.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 DukeBadham wrote:
I barely trust myself to put together the base minis right, Morrow forbid try and convert some!

I would like them as a faction but arent PoM a religious army with lots of anti-spell stuff, so would a Morrow army be to similar? although...if any modelers in the UK wanna help me convert a Cygnar army into a Morrow army I can pay you in bacon and/or cookies

This may be relevant to your interests:

http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=104515

The list looks decent enough, but I'd like to see more Morrowan looking stuff to make it really pop.

White armor on estryker, for one.

 Platuan4th wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
On a more serious note, the main PP forum has a thread of homebrews that include Cygnar and allies, hopefully to be adapted for the official game sometime.

Homebrews can not ever become official due to legal reasons.

Everyone [including myself] who has posted on that thread says PP has completely free use to any of our ideas.

 sing your life wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
On a more serious note, the main PP forum has a thread of homebrews that include Cygnar and allies, hopefully to be adapted for the official game sometime.

Homebrews can not ever become official due to legal reasons.

Everyone [including myself] who has posted on that thread says PP has completely free use to any of our ideas.

Doesn't matter, they're still not going to touch it. That's not a legally binding statement in US law and as such, you're still able to claim ownership if they made anything based on it.

It doesn't matter if you would attempt to claim it or not, they won't touch it because there's no guarantee that they won't be challenged over it.

 sing your life wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 sing your life wrote:
On a more serious note, the main PP forum has a thread of homebrews that include Cygnar and allies, hopefully to be adapted for the official game sometime.

Homebrews can not ever become official due to legal reasons.

Everyone [including myself] who has posted on that thread says PP has completely free use to any of our ideas.

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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
Thanks for the info. Do thamarite even work together? That is kind of required to make a thamarite unit.

They have various Cabals that worship together (in Five Fingers especially), so a unit working together isn't unheard of. Though the religion itself is centered on selfishness and the betterment of one's self as opposed to the group.

In terms of more Morrowans, it was noted in No Quarter (maybe #30 or #29) that there are several military orders in the Church of Morrow. Mayhap we'll see another before too long.

Thamarites will certainly work with others of it promotes their own goals.

and remember, Thamarites are people too. They often have friends loved ones etc.

 Mordekiem wrote:
and remember, Thamarites are people too. They often have friends loved ones etc.

Are they not compelled by their religious beliefs to sacrifice their friends and loved ones if they gain any hint of advantage out of it?

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Mordekiem wrote:
and remember, Thamarites are people too. They often have friends loved ones etc.

Are they not compelled by their religious beliefs to sacrifice their friends and loved ones if they gain any hint of advantage out of it?

I think it might depend on their whatever-they-call-their-Ascendants (I think that's the term)?

 motyak wrote:

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Mordekiem wrote:
and remember, Thamarites are people too. They often have friends loved ones etc.

Are they not compelled by their religious beliefs to sacrifice their friends and loved ones if they gain any hint of advantage out of it?

I think it might depend on their whatever-they-call-their-Ascendants (I think that's the term)?

According to IKRPG, the term for Thamarite "Ascendant" is Scion.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

 Mordekiem wrote:
and remember, Thamarites are people too. They often have friends loved ones etc.

Are they not compelled by their religious beliefs to sacrifice their friends and loved ones if they gain any hint of advantage out of it?

I think it really depends on how they choose to worship and what their goals are. From what I can see there is no real set way to worship Thamar. Set religious beliefs like Morrow or Menoth are the antithesis of her beliefs. She believes in free will and freedom of the spirit from things like rules, policies, etc. That can be interpreted quite a few ways.

If you've ever read Dragonlance I think she and Raistlin are probably kindred spirits. Alot in common at least. And Raistlin was far from being plus evil.

And if you haven't read Dragonlance then do it now.

I guess I am still very novice on Warmachine fluff.
All I know is that Gunnbjorn is trying to get a troll nation with an organized army rather than disparate band of fighter, and that this draws younger trolls more rebel to tradition, especially when it means manning stuff like thumper crew. Because that is what I based the fluff for my warband on. The rest is more like a hazy mystery to me .