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2014/08/22 05:57:31
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Been Around the Block
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If all WH40k armies were real and it was the year 40000 which army would be the best.
(what i mean is in you opinion not what your codex says about your race)
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2014/08/22 06:11:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Tyranids
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2014/08/22 06:20:58
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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orks, because orks.
Orks never lose, they just have occasional bouts of adverse results production ...
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2014/08/22 06:21:10
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Tyranids and or Necrons.
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2014/08/22 06:27:06
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Been Around the Block
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i knew someone would say orks
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2014/08/22 06:33:18
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Neophyte undergoing Ritual of Detestation
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I want to say Eldar because i play them and dont know to much about other races. Eldar have really good psychic powers so they could predict an a attack so could prepare well before a battle.
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2014/08/22 06:34:25
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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It would be an endless stalemate as an invisible omnipotent entity keeps the entire universe 15 seconds from midnight.
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Regiment: 91st Schrott Experimental Regiment
Regiment Planet: Schrott
Specialization: Salvaged, Heavily Modified, and/or Experimental Mechanized Units.
"SIR! Are you sure this will work!?"
"I HAVE NO IDEA, PULL THE TRIGGER!!!" 91st comms chatter. |
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2014/08/22 06:57:58
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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beastyboy wrote:If all WH40k armies were real and it was the year 40000 which army would be the best.
(what i mean is in you opinion not what your codex says about your race)
I smell flamebait.
I shall go with whoever had the most BEIHNBLEHDS!!
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2014/08/22 07:24:03
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Selym wrote: beastyboy wrote:If all WH40k armies were real and it was the year 40000 which army would be the best.
(what i mean is in you opinion not what your codex says about your race)
I smell flamebait.
I shall go with whoever had the most BEIHNBLEHDS!!
It's imperial vs xenos and xenos is winning.
Until the last minute where imperial wins.
Roll the credits. After the credits, xenos regroups and plans . . . the end of everything as we know it is around the corner and nothing can stop it.
Except . . .
[To Be Continued]
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2014/08/22 13:53:44
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Engine of War wrote:It would be an endless stalemate as an invisible omnipotent entity keeps the entire universe 15 seconds from midnight.
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2014/08/22 13:56:26
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Orks, Tyranids, or Necrons. The supreme powers that be.
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Adepta Sororitas: 3,800 Points
Adeptus Custodes: 8,100 Points
Adeptus Mechanicus: 8,400 Points
Alpha Legion: 4,400 Points
Astra Militarum: 7,500 Points
Dark Angels: 16,800 Points
Imperial Knights: 12,500 Points
Legio Titanicus: 5,500 Points
Slaaneshi Daemons: 3,800 Points
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2014/08/22 14:17:06
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
north of nowhere
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Selym wrote: beastyboy wrote:If all WH40k armies were real and it was the year 40000 which army would be the best.
(what i mean is in you opinion not what your codex says about your race)
I smell flamebait.
I shall go with whoever had the most BEIHNBLEHDS!!
Unfortunately we just sent out a shipment of 100 baneblades...
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2014/08/22 15:01:23
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Laugh at chaos! Its too weak. I think the all consumingtyranids would win unless Necrons harvest them all.
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2014/08/22 15:05:41
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Dangerous Bestigor
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Based off of fluff and implied things in fluff.
Tyranids and or Necrons would be the only survivors. After a few thousand more years.
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Kings of War Herd
Master Crafted YouTube Channel, your home for all KOW content...deemed not suitable for children, nuns, women or people with even remotely decent morals...
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2014/08/22 15:55:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Nurgle Chosen Marine on a Palanquin
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Really quick, why does it matter if it is real? Isn't that the same as just straight up asking who will win? The answer is always the same. Nids, Necrons or Orks, or a combination of all 3. In any event, there will be no civilized life in 50k.
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2014/08/22 16:10:35
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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If 40k were real, all factions would be annihilated by the laws of physics.
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2014/08/22 16:14:10
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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I can't really decide between Orks, Tyranids, or Necrons. Orks, because they are a mutant fungus that reproduce by spores, so getting rid of them entirely is really friggin hard. Tyranids because we don't exactly know where they came from and there are a ton of them. Necrons because...Necrons.
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5250 pts
3850 pts
Deathwatch: 1500 pts
Imperial Knights: 375 pts
30K 2500 pts |
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2014/08/22 16:22:36
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think the key factors are available resources and naval dominance. While Eldar and Tau would likely demolish anyone in a pitched battle, they don't have the numbers or navy to compete with the larger powers. Dark Eldar have apparent mobility supremacy through the webway, but lack the numbers and the will to inflict control over the galaxy.
In the end, I'd say the Imperium. While Chaos and Tyranids can corrupt worlds, I don't see them having the necessary industrial capacity to field the navy necessary for galactic dominance. I might be behind on Necron fluff, and Nids certainly have large numbers, but the Imperium has the resources and the navy to maintain supremacy. Its greatest weakness is its reliance on the Emperor, if the Golden Throne failed, the political fracturing and the loss of the Astronomican would greatly weaken the Imperium. But even so, the myriad marine chapters, hive worlds, and fleets would provide an impenetrable defense.
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"Bringer of death, speak your name, For you are my life, and the foe's death." - Litany of the Lasgun
2500 points
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2014/08/22 18:11:34
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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No one would win, IRL. The IRL laws of physics would take hold, immediately rendering every single force as its written in the fluff completely irrelevant. Imperial starships would be unable to move, and Imperial tanks and walkers would fall apart at the seams - much the same with any technological race, such as Tau, Eldar, and Necrons. Most of the larger Tyranid critter's bones would cease to be able to hold up their own weight, let alone move, and the Tyranid hive mind would cease to exist because there's no IRL mechanism by which it could operate, rendering the little 'nids about as dangerous as angry tigers. The Ork's technology and biological functions would simply cease, eradicating the entire race in an instant. (There's no way this sort of biology could work IRL) Basically, putting WH40K into real life would be a disaster for all involved.
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2014/08/22 19:42:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Lets not be geekish snobs and assume that if 40k races were real the life forms and technology adapted to our universe. Because if we dont do that chaos doesnt exist and the god emperor would be walking and talking.
The winning faction would require innovation and procreation. So that would mean t yranids, orks, or if they played their cards right, the tau.
My issue with necrons is that they cannot reproduce until they discover a way to revert back to flesh and blood. If no tomb worlds were ever destroyed, however: thanks to Matt ward's fluff love, necrons would hands down win.
Imperious of man is losing its technological advantage and is suffering from religous propaganda. Whenever religion becomes the dominant aspect of a society science slows, tactics and common sense go out the window. If the imperium found an intact fully operation STC or whatever they are called, then yes, imperium hands down. Until they do, any advanced tech, weapon, or ship they lose they cannot replace. In a war of attrition this is a death sentence.
Orks because they are without number, constantly expanding and reproduce through battle. They are weak in space however which is where the other races must stop then if they want any realistic hope of victory.
Chaos can never win because without other life they would cease to exist.
Eldar cannot increase population to account for losses so they are slowly dying off. They can only win if they disappear and breed like rabbits until 50k.
T yranids are without number and constantly grow and adapt. Apex predator for the win.
Tau... are the most rapidly advancing faction in the universe. If they were ever able to discover necron FTL they would suddenly become a very powerful navy and coincidently, force.
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2014/08/22 19:52:43
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Shaso_Keo wrote:
Chaos can never win because without other life they would cease to exist.
You humans and your petty definitions of "winning".
We have what we want already. A galaxy full of chaos. And thanks to GW, that'll remain forever.
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2014/08/22 19:53:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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As someone previously said: Physics. Physics would win.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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2014/08/22 19:53:24
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Tzeentch Aspiring Sorcerer Riding a Disc
The darkness between the stars
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Most likely to least
1. Everybody dies because grimdark
2. Imperium because hero mode
3. Chaos- Odd one but it's more thematic. The game's always had a decent lean on Imperium versus Chaos. High chance of victory also because of insurrection in many planets and considering it bses reality.
3. Tyranids- Ambiguous fluff is ambiguous but very good chance especially if the claims of how many are coming is true and nobody adapts or focuses on fighting them back.
3. Necrons- Best technology, seriously the guys are OP as hell and really only not too strong because waking up and because dur not gonna use super guns cause we just like bragging on them.
6. Orks. Orks because they are innovative, grow prodigiously (a bit too much honestly) and are tanky as heck
7. Eldar+DEldar. Dark Eldar really don't have a plan to win. Heck, even Orks and Chaos have more of a drive to win it out although to an extent chaos is partiually winning just because all they gain and orks are only like let's war so they are winning until they al get destroyed for good. Anyways, DEldar are closest to winning if Eldar win, perhaps a slight victory if Imperium wins and a ok victory if tau win. Probably would rather Eldar win though. If their plan works, it could be their victory
8. Tau, basically not even slightly likely but hey who knows? Maybe everybody else kills eachother to death and back again.
This isn't IRL because 40k doesn't work in IRL. They go into close combat constantly, have an alternate world that spews chaos and magic.... yeah nope. Automatically Appended Next Post:
We have our winner. All the armies would collapse from not working in real life.
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2014/08/22 20:12:07
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Drew_Riggio
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Unit1126PLL wrote:No one would win, IRL.
The IRL laws of physics would take hold, immediately rendering every single force as its written in the fluff completely irrelevant. Imperial starships would be unable to move, and Imperial tanks and walkers would fall apart at the seams - much the same with any technological race, such as Tau, Eldar, and Necrons.
Most of the larger Tyranid critter's bones would cease to be able to hold up their own weight, let alone move, and the Tyranid hive mind would cease to exist because there's no IRL mechanism by which it could operate, rendering the little 'nids about as dangerous as angry tigers.
The Ork's technology and biological functions would simply cease, eradicating the entire race in an instant. (There's no way this sort of biology could work IRL)
Basically, putting WH40K into real life would be a disaster for all involved.
Your joking, but I must point out that if we are transmuting real life such that 40k is 'real', then I would also assume we are changing the laws of physics to allow for such things to function the way they do in the fluff.
In fact, no technology or life form in fiction is inherently unrealistic. Given enough effort you could write an alternative set of equations that would allow for such things to exist, but such a level of word building is insane (and also awesome!). The best we can do is assume that since the fiction includes these outrageous things, the laws of physics is such that these things can exist. After all, nothing can break the laws of physics, only our understanding.
So if we are porting over 40k, then all the attendant properties of that universe will come over as well.
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2014/08/22 20:22:43
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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You have spend so many editions warring over a galaxy we already rule! We are the old ones you worship. We create the beacon your navigators follow. The shards of C'Tan are just projects discarded by our apprentice craftsmen. We are who the Tyranids flee from in the void. You may not know our name, but you know us as...
Squats.
The fear is real. (New army 9/19/2014)
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2014/08/22 20:52:17
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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doomdreamer wrote:You have spend so many editions warring over a galaxy we already rule! We are the old ones you worship. We create the beacon your navigators follow. The shards of C'Tan are just projects discarded by our apprentice craftsmen. We are who the Tyranids flee from in the void. You may not know our name, but you know us as...
Squats.
The fear is real. (New army 9/19/2014)
Shortly followed by 8th edition, and a full month after it's predecessor, Squats 8E. With all new terminology that makes fun of shorties.
Short-circuit gun.
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2014/08/22 21:15:28
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Heroic Senior Officer
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So it's going to either the IG or the human traitors, fighting with autoguns and non chained melee weapons.
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2014/08/22 21:16:23
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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GorillaWarfare wrote: Unit1126PLL wrote:No one would win, IRL.
The IRL laws of physics would take hold, immediately rendering every single force as its written in the fluff completely irrelevant. Imperial starships would be unable to move, and Imperial tanks and walkers would fall apart at the seams - much the same with any technological race, such as Tau, Eldar, and Necrons.
Most of the larger Tyranid critter's bones would cease to be able to hold up their own weight, let alone move, and the Tyranid hive mind would cease to exist because there's no IRL mechanism by which it could operate, rendering the little 'nids about as dangerous as angry tigers.
The Ork's technology and biological functions would simply cease, eradicating the entire race in an instant. (There's no way this sort of biology could work IRL)
Basically, putting WH40K into real life would be a disaster for all involved.
Your joking, but I must point out that if we are transmuting real life such that 40k is 'real', then I would also assume we are changing the laws of physics to allow for such things to function the way they do in the fluff.
In fact, no technology or life form in fiction is inherently unrealistic. Given enough effort you could write an alternative set of equations that would allow for such things to exist, but such a level of word building is insane (and also awesome!). The best we can do is assume that since the fiction includes these outrageous things, the laws of physics is such that these things can exist. After all, nothing can break the laws of physics, only our understanding.
So if we are porting over 40k, then all the attendant properties of that universe will come over as well.
That's why 40K is science-fantasy and not science-fiction. There are aspects of it that are, literally, impossible, and that's without getting into the metaphysics of the Warp, Daemons and all that sort of stuff. There are things described that cause certain things (like Ogryn) or have certain requirements (like a gene-match to the geneseed that permits a boy to become a Space Marine, but excludes any female) that is, in its foundation, simply not correct from things we know, and have proven, here in M3.
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2014/08/23 05:23:04
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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Thinking of Joining a Davinite Loge
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Physics and Biology.
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2014/08/23 11:01:41
Subject: Warhammer 40k IRL who would win?
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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