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2014/09/06 22:20:40
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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Things happened. I'm now investing in warriors, and possibly chaos dwarfs. Don't ask. LORDS Demon Prince Chaos Armour Flight Demon of Nurgle Level 4 Scaled Skin Soul Feeder Charmed Shield Dragonbane Gem Sword of Striking Death HEROES Exalted Hero Enchanted shield Talisman of Pres Great Weapon BSB Disc of Tzeentch Mark Of Tzeentch Throgg Sorcerer Dispel Scroll Mark of Slaanesh Steed of Slaanesh CORE 17 Trolls AHW 5 Marauder Horsemen Mark of Slaanesh Javelins Flails 5 Marauder Horsemen Mark of Slaanesh Javelins Flails RARE 3 Skullcrushers Musician 3 Skullcrushers Musician
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/11 15:33:22
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2014/09/08 09:48:46
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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I approve 100% Automatically Appended Next Post: I approve 100%
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/08 09:49:28
Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2014/09/08 09:56:49
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Been Around the Block
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I just read the codex and loved the idea of a troll army. I have 0 clue if its viable but will ask what happens when/if Throgg dies? The stupidity rules ruin you right?
I dislike lynchpin characters is all, they always happen to find interesting ways to die early.
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2014/09/08 10:25:55
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Auspicious Skink Shaman
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As it stands, you auto-lose Blood & Glory.
Also, how do you plan to deal with the current Wood elf lists?
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Ogre Kingdoms: 5 500 pts
Lizardmen: 6 000 pts
Undead Legions: 20 000 pts |
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2014/09/08 10:34:40
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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BoTW wrote:As it stands, you auto-lose Blood & Glory. Also, how do you plan to deal with the current Wood elf lists? Demon Prince corner hammer death magic. And who plays Blood and Glory anyway?
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/08 10:35:10
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2014/09/08 10:41:20
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Auspicious Skink Shaman
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thedarkavenger wrote: BoTW wrote:As it stands, you auto-lose Blood & Glory.
Also, how do you plan to deal with the current Wood elf lists?
Demon Prince corner hammer death magic.
And who plays Blood and Glory anyway?
TBO, your DP probably won't last very long. At least not in my meta.
If you don't play Blood & Glory then it's fine. Our tournaments always have one
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Ogre Kingdoms: 5 500 pts
Lizardmen: 6 000 pts
Undead Legions: 20 000 pts |
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2014/09/08 10:52:30
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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BoTW wrote: thedarkavenger wrote: BoTW wrote:As it stands, you auto-lose Blood & Glory.
Also, how do you plan to deal with the current Wood elf lists?
Demon Prince corner hammer death magic.
And who plays Blood and Glory anyway?
TBO, your DP probably won't last very long. At least not in my meta.
If you don't play Blood & Glory then it's fine. Our tournaments always have one
He doesn't have to survive. He just has to do his job.
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2014/09/08 12:01:15
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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My DP got gunned down by waywatchers at the weekend, but you're right he's not there to survive, you hide him 30 inches away. Send the bsb out to fight the way watchers, send the sorceror with horsemen out to random movement them so they are atleast a movement penalty when they shoot
But wood elves are becoming more and more difficult to fight as warriors Automatically Appended Next Post: Plus you could get banners into your skulls/horseman for blood n glory
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/09/08 12:06:23
Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2014/09/08 12:50:48
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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therealsuperman wrote:My DP got gunned down by waywatchers at the weekend, but you're right he's not there to survive, you hide him 30 inches away. Send the bsb out to fight the way watchers, send the sorceror with horsemen out to random movement them so they are atleast a movement penalty when they shoot
But wood elves are becoming more and more difficult to fight as warriors
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Plus you could get banners into your skulls/horseman for blood n glory
With my list, my plan is to send the BSB and the prince off after the bulk of the army, whilst sending the trolls after the way watchers.
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2014/09/08 13:09:09
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Auspicious Skink Shaman
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thedarkavenger wrote: therealsuperman wrote:My DP got gunned down by waywatchers at the weekend, but you're right he's not there to survive, you hide him 30 inches away. Send the bsb out to fight the way watchers, send the sorceror with horsemen out to random movement them so they are atleast a movement penalty when they shoot
But wood elves are becoming more and more difficult to fight as warriors
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Plus you could get banners into your skulls/horseman for blood n glory
With my list, my plan is to send the BSB and the prince off after the bulk of the army, whilst sending the trolls after the way watchers.
You can't really bank on that as waywatchers deploy as scouts. Trolls won't necessarily be in a position to go for them. In the last local tourney a strong player ran a similar list and against 3 wood elf players his DP never saw the end of turn 2. That's 500+ points and your strongest magic offense/defense.
Long range fire power will help a lot in negating this weakness. Thus cannon and magic missiles. Death is too short-ranged
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Ogre Kingdoms: 5 500 pts
Lizardmen: 6 000 pts
Undead Legions: 20 000 pts |
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2014/09/08 13:35:41
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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Magic can't be your answer too it because it's so unreliable, avenger is right, I could have every magic missile under the sun, but if I get snakes it's useless
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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2014/09/08 13:38:55
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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BoTW wrote: thedarkavenger wrote: therealsuperman wrote:My DP got gunned down by waywatchers at the weekend, but you're right he's not there to survive, you hide him 30 inches away. Send the bsb out to fight the way watchers, send the sorceror with horsemen out to random movement them so they are atleast a movement penalty when they shoot
But wood elves are becoming more and more difficult to fight as warriors
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Plus you could get banners into your skulls/horseman for blood n glory
With my list, my plan is to send the BSB and the prince off after the bulk of the army, whilst sending the trolls after the way watchers.
You can't really bank on that as waywatchers deploy as scouts. Trolls won't necessarily be in a position to go for them. In the last local tourney a strong player ran a similar list and against 3 wood elf players his DP never saw the end of turn 2. That's 500+ points and your strongest magic offense/defense.
Long range fire power will help a lot in negating this weakness. Thus cannon and magic missiles. Death is too short-ranged
Well, considering how badly written the wood elf book is, the waywatchers will either be up in my junk in a position where they can't be charged, which is where they should be, or they'll be out back supporting the sisterbus. Either way, that's only 20 models, who on average, won't kill the prince before he ploughs into a unit. I am confident enough in my skill to keep my prince alive using terrain, because I actually have skill.
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2014/09/08 13:51:24
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Killer Klaivex
Oceanside, CA
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It's pretty solid.
A buddy locally runs a very similar list. After several games, he added Scyla and swapped the skullcrushers for hellcannnos.
It usually gives you better Ld early on with the trolls, and puts your 100 point general killing bonus in a different basket than the daemon prince.
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2014/09/08 13:54:47
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Auspicious Skink Shaman
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thedarkavenger wrote:
Well, considering how badly written the wood elf book is, the waywatchers will either be up in my junk in a position where they can't be charged, which is where they should be, or they'll be out back supporting the sisterbus. Either way, that's only 20 models, who on average, won't kill the prince before he ploughs into a unit. I am confident enough in my skill to keep my prince alive using terrain, because I actually have skill.
lol ok. A friendly reminder, don't mistake ego for skill.
Automatically Appended Next Post: therealsuperman wrote:Magic can't be your answer too it because it's so unreliable, avenger is right, I could have every magic missile under the sun, but if I get snakes it's useless
That's why I also suggested hellcannons. Also, you aren't banking on magic, just use it as an additional tool to take out threats at range where any good WE player would do his best to be
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Ogre Kingdoms: 5 500 pts
Lizardmen: 6 000 pts
Undead Legions: 20 000 pts |
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2014/09/08 14:57:20
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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BoTW wrote: thedarkavenger wrote:
Well, considering how badly written the wood elf book is, the waywatchers will either be up in my junk in a position where they can't be charged, which is where they should be, or they'll be out back supporting the sisterbus. Either way, that's only 20 models, who on average, won't kill the prince before he ploughs into a unit. I am confident enough in my skill to keep my prince alive using terrain, because I actually have skill.
lol ok. A friendly reminder, don't mistake ego for skill.
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therealsuperman wrote:Magic can't be your answer too it because it's so unreliable, avenger is right, I could have every magic missile under the sun, but if I get snakes it's useless
That's why I also suggested hellcannons. Also, you aren't banking on magic, just use it as an additional tool to take out threats at range where any good WE player would do his best to be
A) It's not ego. On any board, you can stack the minuses to hit. 20 shots hittng on 2s and 20 shots hitting on 3s is a remarkable difference. Especially once you factor in the wounding on 6s,
B) Hellcannons are notoriously unreliable unless they're taken in pairs. And that infringes on skullcrusher points.
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2014/09/11 10:17:07
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Fresh-Faced New User
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The list is ok, the only thing give to the exalted hero the Demonic mount isntead of the disc of tzeentch, for the same point you loose fly but gain +1 W an +1.
If you dont play the hellcannon, nor magic missile it's very diffcult to stand a chance againts, WE
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2014/09/11 11:32:19
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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fØrgive wrote:The list is ok, the only thing give to the exalted hero the Demonic mount isntead of the disc of tzeentch, for the same point you loose fly but gain +1 W an +1.
If you dont play the hellcannon, nor magic missile it's very diffcult to stand a chance againts, WE
Wood elves are one of my favourite match ups. If I charge the wild riders, they die. And the shooting isn't that great against the troll wall.
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2014/09/11 15:20:27
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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Your list comes in at 2471, so do you mean it's a 2500 list? DP:500, BSB:241 SORC:165 THROGG:195 TROLLS:646 HORSE:118,118 SKULLS: 244, 244
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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2014/09/11 16:21:58
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Sinister Shapeshifter
The Lair of Vengeance....Poole.
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therealsuperman wrote:Your list comes in at 2471, so do you mean it's a 2500 list? DP:500, BSB:241 SORC:165 THROGG:195 TROLLS:646 HORSE:118,118 SKULLS: 244, 244
You sure?
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2014/09/12 07:46:08
Subject: Re:[2400] - Warriors
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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Just a note to check them, I added them all up and got over, maybe I've done wrong but I doubt it
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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2014/09/12 12:48:19
Subject: [2400] - Warriors
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Auspicious Skink Shaman
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thedarkavenger wrote:
Wood elves are one of my favourite match ups. If I charge the wild riders, they die. And the shooting isn't that great against the troll wall.
Then we will just have to agree to disagree.
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Ogre Kingdoms: 5 500 pts
Lizardmen: 6 000 pts
Undead Legions: 20 000 pts |
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