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2014/10/09 19:38:35
Subject: Blood Angels Rumours - Pre-order up - Website photos from page 78
Tons of rumors flying around about Necrons and they are all wrong. The Necrons will only see the release of a Necron lord, no codex will be released. Also Tyranids will see the release of two large bugs. The rules for their models will be in the box like the Nagash release. This is also just a model release for the Tyranids, no codex.
Lastly the Blood angels will be released at the end of the year.
I keep getting questions about a Tyranids Codex release and here's some info.
1. This is a model release no Tyranids codex.
2. A Campaign book will be released and if I remember correctly it's called Leviathan.
3. Blood Angels are still coming.
4. There will be a starter set that contains BA and Tyranids. It will be similar to Storm Claw.
5. Hope to update Blood Angel rumors this week.
Hope this helps.
BoLs -
Spoiler:
BoLS wrote:
Blood Angels
5 death company
10 assault marines
1 furiouso dreadnaught
1 New Exclusive captain w jump pack
Tyranids
3 warriors
20 gaunts
3 lictors (editor's note: this makes no sense, perhaps Hive Guard?)
1 NEW Exclusive Prime
Campaign is slated to kick off the week after Tyranids
Previous Rumors:
Codex coming in Late summer/Fall 2014
Blood Angels Rumorwave #1 7-14-2014
Rules:
Mephiston: Lord of War.
Blood Angels: Gain access to the new Codex SM flyers, but not the tanks.
Minis:
New "Sanguinary" unit in Terminator armor
Clam pack plastic Sanguinary Priest
New Wheeled vehicle
"Classic Character" gets a resculpt (contrary chatter split between Mephiston/Tycho)
Rumor reliability: Medium-Low, coming from both known and unknown sources
via Steve the Warboss 9-26-2014
- The Sons of Sanguinius will come soon after Endtimes Book 2.
- GW will use this release slot to replace older Space Marine Plastic sprues.
- 4-5 week are realistic.
via Steve the Warboss 10-8-2014
Blood Angels Latest:
Miniatures & Products
-New Character, a Captain (maybe 1.Company)
-Mephiston in plastic
-New Terminator Box with all weapon options
-New Assault Marine Box
-New generic Dreadnought
-Honour Guard Box (maybe only an repack)
-Mephiston will be a LoW, he turned into a "uber" psyker
-BA Painting Guide
-Suppliment featuring the new captain
New Blood Angels Lore
-The Flesh Tearers are now watched by the Inquisition
-A Rumor make the round in the Imperium, one of the BA successor chapters are traitors (not the Flesh Tearers)
-The attitude of Imperial authorities over the BA worsen
More Blood Angels rumors 10-9-2014
Mephiston
-Mephiston is getting a new plastic.
Huge, standing almost as tall as a terminator. Sword low across front in right arm. Left extented over the top with hand spread...individual fingers. Looks like he's lunging forward sweeping the blade in an uppercut. Cape blown about behind him. Model has skull and blood drop iconography all over. Aegis extends up like the cowl of the old figure but is much more recognisable as a psychic hood. Face is incredibly detailed. Fangs are visible.
Captain Tycho
-Tycho plastic is death company version.
-Has a chainsword and signature combimelta.
-DC iconography, retains nipple armor.
Corbulo
-Corbulo plastic is in sanguinary armor.
-Has chalice held aloft with both arms as in offering.
Terminators Set
-New Blood Angel Terminator box set.
-Makes terminators, BA captain in TA, BA Librarian in TA, or new BA terminator armored heavy unit.
-Storm Bolters are in hand not arm-mounted like gk.
-Includes power axes, fists, sbs, force sword, power sword, new 2 handed heavy cannon, heavy flamer, Assault cannon, librarian torso/tabard/shoulders/weapon, banner, captain options (combi weapons) tons of bits.
Reliability is: medium-low, coming from a mix of known and unknown sources
Faeit -
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
BA are indeed pegged for a mid-november release but there will be little or even no model releases at all.
If there is anything released expect either plastic reclusiarch or sang priest. But no new squad kits or vehicles.
Shield of Baal confirmed
Spoiler:
White Dwarf Photos
From Nafta:
This is really fun, as the latest has us seeing a new Blood Angel Codex, Tacticals, Sanguinary Priest, and wait for it.......... Smaug. Yes, no one really thought a Smaug would be built, but its happening. Also a new Blood Angel codex going up for pre-orders, its going to be a great week.
Please remember that these are rumors, but are very reliable. These are next week's pre-orders.
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
Lots of releases next week including some surprises. There are lots of hobbit releases, including Smaug. Smaug is extremely huge will be listed for expert modelers only. Of course he is going to cost you almost 500 dollars US, but this is a huge model standing over lots of gold and two columns with Bilbo hiding beneath.
Blood angels get their codex next week. The cover is an assault marine wielding a plasma pistol and and chainsword, overall a nice looking cover.
Blood Angels also get new datacards and dice, but more importantly blood angels get a new tactical squad with lots of options. Shoulder pads, helmets and blood angel symbols are everywhere. It looks like a full box of bits. Heavy Flamer is also in the box.
Last but least there is a new Sanguinary Priest with with a extra machinery on the backpack, a blood chalice, and a nice looking chainsword.
As a reminder:
Larry Vela aka Big Red - Total rumors: (131 TRUE) / (276 FALSE) / (18 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Natfka on Faeit 212 - Total rumors: (418 TRUE) / (663 FALSE) / (57 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (6 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Guess who I believe?
Codex details
Spoiler:
Warhams-77 wrote: The Black Library Blog shows some more images from the Digital Blood Angels Codex
Automatically Appended Next Post: It seems you missed the codex leaks on 4chan last night. It was from the english book this time
...the Storm Raven *is* FA.
..., and the Vindicator (1XX pts barebones) *can* take overcharged engines for 10 pts.
I'm sitting here with the english book right in front of me. Vindicator has the [fast] option as the first option, right before siege shields.
All army-wide special rules outside of Combat Squads are gone. Everybody has Furious Charge.
Detachment has 4 elites, one of which is mandatory, warlord reroll and +1I on the charge for everything.
Warlord traits: Rampage, +1I, Mastercrafted for a weapon, Adamantium Will, Fearless for EVERY friendly imperial unit within 12", reroll reserves and scatter for Jump, Flyer and Skimmer.
Relics: Fear at -2Ld, one free strategic warlord trait, MC plasma pistol, no-frills AP2 melee weapon, jump pack that allows to reroll scatter and mishap & forces Interceptors to only snapfire at wearer, force maul that allows rerolling 1s one psy tests at the danger of taking a wound if the reroll is also a 1.
Sanguinary Discipline: +d3I and A for a character, morale check at -2Ld, grants Rage or +1A if you already have that, 5++ for unit, some gakky focussed witchfire, a S8 AP1 Beam Lance and one that moves a unit 12" ignoring terrain, but counts as moved for shooting and can't charge.
Most rhino-chassis vehicles lost fast and must now buy it as vehicle gear for xx pts.
Jump Packs are now x pts per model for units.
Assault squads are FA now.
Vanguard & Sternguard are now the same as the C:SM ones.
Death Company are elite now. Trade 1WS for Rage.
Lemartes is a seperate elite choice now. Fury Unbound is once per game now.
Sanguinary Priests are now HQ, one guy per slot. Give FnP and +1WS.
Corbulo has 6" aura of +1WS/I.
Tycho lost all melee weapons and special ammo.
Astorath's axe now causes ID on a 6 to-wound and is two-handed, but is otherwise a poweraxe.
Dreads are now split into Librarian(HQ), Furioso (Elite), Death Company (Elite) and staddard (elite).
Furioso Force Halberd is a powerfist with Force but without Specialist Weapon, so no +1A.
DC dread lost 1WS and 1A.
Furioso is NOT venerable.
Sanguinary Guard maxes out at 10, death masks grant Fear.
Tacticals may take a heavy flamer for a heavy weapon and a grav gun for a special weapon.
inferno pistol and hand flamer are availiable to all characters but scout sergeants.
Dante is a LoW and got a massive buff. Axe is now S+2 AP2 Mastercrafted. Dante gets Eternal Warrior, a free tactical warlord trait on top of his Descent of Angels and a 6" fear bubble.
Seth is a LoW and has Rage, Rampage and causes two hits for any 6 rolled to hit.
Land Raiders lost Deep Strike and are now Heavy Support.
Everything being said seems to be conflicting with one another. As BA were my first army, I hope we get all of these. But, I'm looking forward to seeing where the new codex takes them, regardless of what actually is released.
Also, wasn't there rumors of the Baal pred getting new weapon options? And some assault vehicle? Lol I remember they were saying something about a unit called "Blood Brothers" as well. Where they had survived the black rage and now we're a unit...right.
Anyways, again, looking forward to whatever comes of them
As a reminder: Larry Vela aka Big Red - Total rumors: (131 TRUE) / (276 FALSE) / (18 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Natfka on Faeit 212 - Total rumors: (418 TRUE) / (663 FALSE) / (57 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Lords of Wargaming - Total rumors: (6 TRUE) / (0 FALSE) / (0 PARTIALLY TRUE/VAGUE)
Guess who I believe?
Automatically Appended Next Post: At OP, your spoilers are messed up.
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As innacurate as natfka has been, steve the warboss (their primary source) has been stepping up his accuracy recently. I expect a 5 week end times release, which means the last white dwarf regarding end times will release on november 8th. That puts the first BA issue on november 15th, and with a 3 week release puts them out on december 6th.
Miniatures & Products
-New Character, a Captain (maybe 1.Company)
-Mephiston in plastic
-New Terminator Box with all weapon options
-New Assault Marine Box
-New generic Dreadnought
-Honour Guard Box (maybe only an repack)
-Mephiston will be a LoW, he turned into a "uber" psyker
-BA Painting Guide
-Suppliment featuring the new captain
New Blood Angels Lore
-The Flesh Tearers are now watched by the Inquisition
-A Rumor make the round in the Imperium, one of the BA successor chapters are traitors (not the Flesh Tearers)
-The attitude of Imperial authorities over the BA worsen
Blood Angel Rumors - Sept 2014
via Steve the Warboss
-The Sons of Sanguinius will come soon after Endtimes Book 2.
-GW will use this release slot to replace older Space Marine Plastic sprues.
-4-5 week are realistic.
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New Blood Angels Lore
-The Flesh Tearers are now watched by the Inquisition
-A Rumor make the round in the Imperium, one of the BA successor chapters are traitors (not the Flesh Tearers)
-The attitude of Imperial authorities over the BA worsen
I don't think the Flesh Tearers one is new. There's already a short story about the Inquisition tracking them.
I assume the rumour of the traitor Blood Angels chapter is not about the Knights of Blood? (the loyalist chapter, not to be confused with an unrelated Knights of Blood Chaos warband)
The Flesh Tearers are now watched by the Inquisition
Given negative and worrying reports by the Guard, Civilian Authorities, other Astartes (Salamanders IIRC) and the Sororitas thats not surprising...
Hopefully they will get something ultra cool like the DE bomber and not just gutted like the DE Codex or a Sleigh.........
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The Flesh Tearers are now watched by the Inquisition
Given negative and worrying reports by the Guard, Civilian Authorities, other Astartes (Salamanders IIRC) and the Sororitas thats not surprising...
Hopefully they will get something ultra cool like the DE bomber and not just gutted like the DE Codex or a Sleigh.........
If all they do is update the red thirst, points costs, give us psy powers, relics, and warlord traits i will be a happy camper. The fact that we're also getting our own FOC with nifty rules attached, well, thats just icing on the cake. Ive said it a thousand times, anything is better than what we have now.
We can but hope eh?
At best we'll get a points trim, a warlord chart, relic's, The Sanguinor, Astorath and Dante fixed and a funky formation involving land raider's I bet. Because we aren't going to get them as a DT anymore. But as the man above said anything's better than what we've got.
These next couple of months are going to be expensive for me too, taking on the Sector Imperialis board here next week, then my Blood Angels come out. I'll be glad to see the Terminators updated, not that they look bad but it does run with my bad luck seeing as how I am just starting a 10 Terminator Squad of the newer ones for my BA's. I was still using the old metals.
Crush your enemies, see them driven before you and to hear the lamentations of the women.
Well i did a little bit more research. It seems that there hasnt been a codex released in december since 4th edition, and since that month is reserved for holiday deals its unlikely to change. So if the end times follows a 4 week release (likely, 1 week per chaos god) that puts the end of it on november 1st. This means that if the blood angels follow the typical 3 week release starting in the november 8th issue of white dwarf, we'll see the release on saturday november 22nd. I would be willing to bet money on it.
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Kelly502 wrote: You Sir, are not only th3maninblak you are now THE MAN period! Seems logical. If not my hopes shall be dashed on the bottom of a cliff.
Lol well thank you. Im pretty good at figuring this kind of stuff out. Theres a small possibility that we could see it a week earlier, if the end times is only 3 weeks (unlikely, but possible), and a slightly better possibility of seeing it on the 29th instead of the 22nd. This would be brought about either by 5 weeks of end times or a week of something else, like the new necron lord and big tyranid kit that has been rumored. This is definitely possible, but less likely than the above prediction.
it looks like November will be jam-packed if any of the rumors are true...
December should be Battle of Five Armies, if things go as usual...
Wasn't December always LotR/Hobbit month???
so, who's it going to be in November, BA's or 'Crons???
roll the dice, and see what you win...
any new BA minis will be happily received...
i'm not so crazy about 'Crons, but i love me some Space Vampires...
The only thing that I truly is the wheeled vehicles, I just don't see it unless it fills the roll of a Fast Attack Vehicle or an LAV.
Marines use Track Vehicles not Wheeled
jah-joshua wrote: it looks like November will be jam-packed if any of the rumors are true...
December should be Battle of Five Armies, if things go as usual...
Wasn't December always LotR/Hobbit month???
so, who's it going to be in November, BA's or 'Crons???
roll the dice, and see what you win...
any new BA minis will be happily received...
i'm not so crazy about 'Crons, but i love me some Space Vampires...
cheers
jah
Is gonna be BA, not crons, for the november release. Looks like crons are getting pushed to january.
How do people feel about beloved Special Characters getting turned into LoW, something a lot of people feel uncomfortable about (more out of perception than out of anything practical)?
H.B.M.C. wrote: How do people feel about beloved Special Characters getting turned into LoW, something a lot of people feel uncomfortable about (more out of perception than out of anything practical)?
I'm fine with Draigo, Logan, and Ghaz being LoW slot. Just wish Ghaz kept his Invul save.
And I'd much rather have gotten a LoW Vect than have him removed entirely...
Generic Assault squad kit makes a lot of sense for a BA release, to update them to the new style and variety of designs that they have in the new Tactical and Veteran boxes.
BA terminators is the last real model option for them, as they already have a vehicle, a flier, a dreadnought, and 2 PA kits. And adding a new terminator unit to BA would make sense so they could dual-kit it, like the Deathwing Knights were added to the Deathwing box. Or, if it is a new Generic Terminator box, they could replace the 2 old Terminator kits with one new one with all the options. Wolf Guard managed to get everything in one kit.
If they do a new generic Dread, hopefully they will follow the cue of the Venerable Dred, and make the arms plug and play, so they can be swapped between the two kits. Maybe also like the Vendred have the option to make it Coffin front or MK IV style front. If they take out the various decorative panel options from the Vendred, there should be room for a decent variety of weapons (TLAC, TLHB, and TLHF could really use plastic options)
H.B.M.C. wrote: How do people feel about beloved Special Characters getting turned into LoW, something a lot of people feel uncomfortable about (more out of perception than out of anything practical)?
I think this is GW making sure that some LoW choices are familiar to places, which makes it harder for them to just ban LoW and ignore the slot.
What BA really REALLY need is an affordable assault transport. For being the "premier assault army" they really get hamstrung with the rhinos. You can pay a lot for the land raider or the flying death coffin, but that's not really that helpful. Jump packers get shot up pretty quickly!
Currently orks and DE outperform on mobile assaulting, hands down.
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Moopy wrote: What BA really REALLY need is an affordable assault transport. For being the "premier assault army" they really get hamstrung with the rhinos. You can pay a lot for the land raider or the flying death coffin, but that's not really that helpful. Jump packers get shot up pretty quickly!
Currently orks and DE outperform on mobile assaulting, hands down.
With feel no pain and smart use of cover, jump packs can get there. The problem with them is that theyre overcosted and get outperformed by raven guard. The best jump pack faction in the game is currently outdone at the thing theyre supposed to be best at.
Which is an indicator of the fact that all we really need from our 'dex is price reductions.
Points drop assumed, I'll be happy if all that happens is:
- we get our powers back
- the elites slot gets a little less crowded (move priests to troops as a non FOC slot unit, 1 priest every 2-3 units of infantry?)
- Vanguard keep the useful version of heroic intervention (not going to happen)
- 5 man tactical squads can have a heavy or special weapon.
That's it, I genuinely think that our codex is good, it's just that several years of points drops for other codices means we're out of alignment with the game.
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