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Drazhar vs Karandras (why do Phoneix Lords always have Indian names?), who will win?
Both have the same stats and some special rules. So here is how it goes from my perspective:

Karandras has Shuriken Catapult mounted on Scorpion's claw which can do some damage with Bladestorm. His opponent has no range weapon. Ignore this for the time being.

Ignore Stalker and Warlord Traits of both.

At I10, Karandras automatically inflicts 1 S6 hit, causing 0.83 wound. After saves (2+ armor), damage will be 0.14.

Karandras has 5 attacks (no charging). Will hit 2.5 times (4+ to hit) and cause 2.08 wounds (2+ to wound). No saves allowed. Eternal Warrior cancels out Instant Death.

Drazhar has 4 attacks (no charging and two-handed weapon). Will hit 2 times (4+ to hit) in first strike, then 1 more because he gets additional with each hit he makes, causing 2 wounds (3+ to wound). No saves allowed.

So, on average, Karandras will cause about 2.22 wounds while Drazhar will cause about 2 wounds. Both have 3 wounds. So they are pretty much even. I have not read the Dark Eldar Codex carefully yet, but I think Drazhar is somewhat cheaper.

Anyone have anything to say?

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Karandras gives his unit Shrouded, which is infinitely more valuable. Also more effective vs vehicles.

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Fareham

Both are solid but both are heavy on points to say the least.

The only edge in 1vs1 is that Karandras can hammer wounds into MC's without an issue.

As a whole though, zephoid summed it up.

   
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1v1, Karandras wins. He is a better 1v1 character because of Stalker and higher strength. The fact he has grenades and Drazhar doesn't is just insulting.

That being said, Drazhar has access to quite a few things that put him ahead of Karandras gameplay wise. Foremost of these is Power From Pain, at the best of times Drazhar will be rocking FNP, Furious Charge and Rage. That makes him much more of a threat to entire units, while Karandras is geared to 1v1's with characters and MC's he can kill before they swing.

Best case Scenario, Drazhar gets 4 attacks + 2 for Rage + 3 for Rampage + an extra attack or two for 6's for around 10 Ws 7 S 6 Ap 2 attacks. That is scary, and not to mention he is around 30 (?) points cheaper.

On a side note, Incubi are better then Scorpions if that impacts anything.

 
   
 
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