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2014/10/29 20:26:36
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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So, probably a question asked a lot, but how the frak am I going to fill the gaps in these things to make them look right?
Did us Brits put sandbags on our shermans as early as D-day? I was hoping I could model that to hide the gaps in the front. Not too sure what to do about the sides as I've never been too good at gap filling...I just kinda make it worse.
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2014/10/29 20:34:05
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Regular Dakkanaut
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not sure but the British used hessian strips as camo i used that to hide the gap's on my shermans. it's just green stuff layered on and attacked with a blunt blade so it looks like strips. also managed to cover up a missing hull machine gun with it to. there really fiddly and small so i dropped one.
http://brochtree.deviantart.com/gallery/51318070/Guards-Armoured
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2014/10/29 22:54:33
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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LazzurusMan wrote:So, probably a question asked a lot, but how the frak am I going to fill the gaps in these things to make them look right?
Did us Brits put sandbags on our shermans as early as D-day? I was hoping I could model that to hide the gaps in the front. Not too sure what to do about the sides as I've never been too good at gap filling...I just kinda make it worse.
Have you tried using super glue Gel? It works great as a gap filler.
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2014/10/30 04:42:46
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Dont suppose you've got any better quality pics? No offence but they're kinda blurry when you zoom in :/
I have tried to use the strip idea on one of my sermons, but I've got a feeling the strips are way too big and it doesn't quite look right. It could just be because the tank isn't painted.
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2014/10/30 10:16:53
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Major
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LazzurusMan wrote:Dont suppose you've got any better quality pics? No offence but they're kinda blurry when you zoom in :/
I have tried to use the strip idea on one of my sermons, but I've got a feeling the strips are way too big and it doesn't quite look right. It could just be because the tank isn't painted.
Have you tried GS or Brwn putties,a thin bead would do the trick.I also read that some people were having good luck with Gws Liquid GS or the Fail cast models.
Me i live in Midwestern usa and the closet spot i have for regular hobbie supplies is a Hobby lobby ( American discount dept. style hobby store)and it is limited.Also 50 miles away.So i have to invent and improvise for some of my supplies,as locally all i got is a Hardware store and a wal mart to choose from.
As for mine i just used a bead of Super glue Gel and stowage.I think they turned out ok. especailly at this scale.You wont notice at a normal distance.
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2014/10/30 12:09:21
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Grizzled Space Wolves Great Wolf
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Yeah I hate these models. I ended up using greenstuff to fill the gaps as it was all I had on hand, but I'm regretting not getting something sandable like milliput or squadron putty as the finish is a bit rough (not nearly as bad as the huge gaps though).
After the first one I realised the main problem was that almost all (and I mean almost all) the joints have too much material on them. The top hull is thicker than it should be. The ledges the top hull is supposed to sit on have too much material and need to be removed or trimmed, I had to trim the back of the front mud guards which are on the side hull pieces, especially the left one, otherwise the top hull wouldn't sit flush. A big one was I had to cut huge chunks out of the right side of the lower hull where the right hull attaches, otherwise it won't fit right.
It took me close to an hour to assemble each one, but if you spend the time hacking away like that, the gaps end up a lot smaller and more manageable.
I was just stupid in that I used greenstuff to fill the gaps so now I can't sand it smooth. Should have used something more sandable.
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2014/10/30 13:33:24
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Regular Dakkanaut
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LazzurusMan wrote:Dont suppose you've got any better quality pics? No offence but they're kinda blurry when you zoom in :/
I have tried to use the strip idea on one of my sermons, but I've got a feeling the strips are way too big and it doesn't quite look right. It could just be because the tank isn't painted.
yeah sorry my camera on my phone isn't great but it's all i have. just keep attacking it till it looks right. mine doesn't have any little lump bigger then 1mm square. best advice i can give is go look at the Cromwell's from battle front as that's where i got the idea from and i tried making it look like the hessian camo on them.
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2014/10/31 09:27:29
Subject: Re:Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Well, here's my first attempt. Like you said, the scales a bit off :/ Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh and the "fir" was supposed to look like netting.....
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2014/11/02 21:41:58
Subject: Re:Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Re-did the milliput bits on my sherman. What do you guys think, keep it, or just go for sandbags instead? (I can do those)
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2014/11/03 16:53:31
Subject: Re:Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Dakka Veteran
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" Did us Brits put sandbags on our shermans as early as D-day?" Cannot find any pictures of tanks on D-Day with sand bags but you can bet your bottom dollar after the 1st encounter with an 88m or Panther your going to stick about as much protection and camo or your tank as possible.
That's if you survive the 1st encounter ?
For netting I use cheese cloth(find it on fleabay) and I make sand bags from green stuff. I find it helps rolling green stuff into pea size balls before gently squashing them into sand bag shapes. A sharp knife is good for leaving net like marks on the bags as well
Saying that your doing ok. Paint will hide a lot of problems
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2014/11/05 15:47:08
Subject: Re:Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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The British tended to use spare tracks and road wheels rather than sandbags to 'up-armour' their Shermans (sandbags seem to have been favoured by US tankers in 1945, because they were thought to provide some protection against Panzerfausts). This practice began even before D-Day - there are photos of tanks with welded-on tracks waiting to be unloaded from landing ships. The spare tracks were sometimes looted from German vehicles. It was quite common to use extensive amounts of camo netting, often threaded with hessian strips, to break up the Sherman's high, boxy profile. Wire netting was also used. The camo netting would tend to be strung along the upper hull and turret sides, and the hull front (this would mean you could cover all of the bad joins on your models). In 15mm, the hessian strips will be very small. You can represent the camo netting quite well using fine medical gauze and coarse sawdust; attach the bandages using diluted white glue, then sprinkle the sawdust on too. Let it dry, then undercoat it (this also helps hold everything in place); once you drybrush it, it will look like camo netting.
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2014/11/05 16:06:42
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Lieutenant General
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Battlefront has an article on how to add hessian camouflage to tanks on their web site:
Hessian undergarments
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2014/11/07 20:24:16
Subject: Achtung! Shermans... -_-
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Cheers everyone, especially you Ghaz!
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