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Anyone want to know anything ?

Which Primarch rules do we get?

Can you name the Legion Artifacts for each of them?

Along with stats for the EC one.

 Gunzhard wrote:
Which Primarch rules do we get?

None. In fact, other than the relics given in the campaign rules, there are no marine rules in this book at all. Rules-wise it's all 30k IG and knights.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Can you name the Legion Artifacts for each of them?

Along with stats for the EC one.

http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2014/11/conquest-legion-relic-rules.html seems to be accurate.

there are no primach rules and the emps children relic is

str +1 ap3 master parry specialist weapon

may swap attacks to gain +1 to invun save (i.e -1 attack +1 inv to 2++)


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legion generic relics are

roll a d6

1 Nanyte blaster
2 warp shunt field
3 phase walker
4 combat augment array
5 cloaking array
6 void shield harness

The Knight list is so much better than the "official" main studio codex that GW proper should be ashamed.

yeah tell me about it, I don't like knights personally but I can see they did a bang up job with the HH list, plus it looks nicer


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also im loving the world eaters relic.

Earth breaker trident (old rhino price)
str +2 ap2 (wow) melee, unwieldy, specialist weapon

thrown
str10 ap1
instant death, one use, seismic destructor

basically shakes buidlings to death (-1 HP per turn!)




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off to bed in a bit gents, so if anyone wants to know anything ask quick or wait till morning

What is the Death Guard relic?

 curran12 wrote:
What is the Death Guard relic?

http://apocalypse40k.blogspot.com/2014/11/conquest-legion-relic-rules.html has all of the relics.

What infantry units available to the Solar Auxilia, and what is their minimum size etc?

Also what are the stats for the Dracosan like? Any good?

Thanks

the guard equiv is the auxilia tertio, you get 1-3 "sections"
1st is a las rifle platoon (think of it as your tactical squad)
the entire squad has heresy las rifles (range 30" if I remember, I look in a bit)

the second unit is the velataris storm section, this entire unit is armed with volkite chargers.... yes that's right.

then its the auxilia flamer support squad, guess what they have

and lastly its the aegis defence line... yep that's right, each tercio can buy an aegis line and it doesn't count as a fort choice, that's pretty good.

Auxilia have some pretty nasty kit, such as leman russ units as fast attack and none are heavy vehicles, and can outflank, 13/12/10 artillery units (like the medusa!!!), they should be able to go toe to toe with marines... maybe


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oh forgot the auxilia "tactical" squad is 20 models for 100pts, including vexila, sarg and vox operator

are there any new knights we havent seen models for?

um I don't really know I will list them and you can tell me as I don't really keep up to date on knights, don't really like them :/

questoris paladin

Knight

Mageara

styrix

lancer

castigator

Acheron

that's all the ones I see and there is a special character but its not a knight I don't think

there is also a large list of HQ, troop, elite, FA and HS of upgrades and downgrades for all the knights, its pretty cool actually

hmm the questoris paladin might be new...

are there weapon upgrades/downgrades by any chance?

chaos0xomega wrote:
hmm the questoris paladin might be new...

are there weapon upgrades/downgrades by any chance?

The only thing that differs is that it has a different stock gun (higher ROF, lower S) than the 40K Paladin, but can exchange it for the RFBC that the 40K Paladin has for free.

There are multiple up/downgrades, the most important being that you can specify your Knigtly rank, rather than rolling for it, and pay points/receive a reduction as appropriate.

You can also buy upgrades that give any Knight chassis an ability, and also a battlefield role/FOC. For instance, there's an upgrade that makes the Knight a HS choice that gives it Skyfire if it doesn't move.

I'm giving this to my Castigator as a matter of course I think!

All ways up, it is an infinitely better list than the official Codex and I will be requesting permission to use it in my 40K games on the rare occasions I feel like giving my Knights something to do other than sitting in my cabinet looking awesome.

How good are sola auxila can they take down marines or are they like their later counterparts and shine flash lights at them.

auxilia lasrifle
range 30" str 3 ap-
OR
range 36" heavy 2 str 3 ap-
OR
str6 ap6 range 18" burnout (unit cannot shoot anymore on a 1 after shooting)
now take 60 guard as troops, that's 360 shots at 36" for 300pts
now take 2 of them for 2 troops, add in outflanking non heavy russes, good flyers, amazing artillery and good (4+) armour.

For CC take a unit of ogryns, they have lightning claws.... good enough to me.


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so yes, they can hold there own against marines, id say they would do well against most HH armies, and most 40k ones.

Can anyone put the stats for the Styrix's weapon up?

Formosa, how do 60 dudes with a two shot gun get 360 shots?


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 Davespil wrote:
Can anyone put the stats for the Styrix's weapon up?

I'd have to root around in the other threads on this site and BOLS to be sure about it, but it's 5 S7 shots, 45", deflagrate, unsure about ap.

 Azreal13 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
hmm the questoris paladin might be new...

are there weapon upgrades/downgrades by any chance?

The only thing that differs is that it has a different stock gun (higher ROF, lower S) than the 40K Paladin, but can exchange it for the RFBC that the 40K Paladin has for free.

There are multiple up/downgrades, the most important being that you can specify your Knigtly rank, rather than rolling for it, and pay points/receive a reduction as appropriate.

You can also buy upgrades that give any Knight chassis an ability, and also a battlefield role/FOC. For instance, there's an upgrade that makes the Knight a HS choice that gives it Skyfire if it doesn't move.

I'm giving this to my Castigator as a matter of course I think!

All ways up, it is an infinitely better list than the official Codex and I will be requesting permission to use it in my 40K games on the rare occasions I feel like giving my Knights something to do other than sitting in my cabinet looking awesome.

Ah see Im mostly just trying to find ways to use my dreamfoege leviathans as something other than diplay pieces, too small to be a warhound too large to be a knight but just the right size for a cerastus knight, but sadly not armed appeopriately

If you were looking at Dracosan w/ demolisher cannons and velataris storm sections in them how many pts would you be looking at per 10 man section?

I heard they could be given rotor cannons? Is this a free swap?

Thanks in advance.

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
hmm the questoris paladin might be new...

are there weapon upgrades/downgrades by any chance?

The only thing that differs is that it has a different stock gun (higher ROF, lower S) than the 40K Paladin, but can exchange it for the RFBC that the 40K Paladin has for free.

There are multiple up/downgrades, the most important being that you can specify your Knigtly rank, rather than rolling for it, and pay points/receive a reduction as appropriate.

You can also buy upgrades that give any Knight chassis an ability, and also a battlefield role/FOC. For instance, there's an upgrade that makes the Knight a HS choice that gives it Skyfire if it doesn't move.

I'm giving this to my Castigator as a matter of course I think!

All ways up, it is an infinitely better list than the official Codex and I will be requesting permission to use it in my 40K games on the rare occasions I feel like giving my Knights something to do other than sitting in my cabinet looking awesome.

Ah see Im mostly just trying to find ways to use my dreamfoege leviathans as something other than diplay pieces, too small to be a warhound too large to be a knight but just the right size for a cerastus knight, but sadly not armed appeopriately

You can use the Leviathan with a sword and chain gun to be a castigator.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
Formosa, how do 60 dudes with a two shot gun get 360 shots?


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 Davespil wrote:
Can anyone put the stats for the Styrix's weapon up?

I'd have to root around in the other threads on this site and BOLS to be sure about it, but it's 5 S7 shots, 45", deflagrate, unsure about ap.

WITH INCREDIBAL MATHS THATS HOW!!!!!11111!!11!!1!

I clearly cant counts and that's now established haha.

styrix

str8 ap 3 heavy 5 deflagrate

also comes with a reaper chainsword, and a graviton gun, may upgrade the reaper chainsword to a hekaton siege claw with a twin linked irad cleanser in it, and it gains the wrecker rule.

the veletaris can indeed take free rotor cannons or power axes at +5 points

the dracosian can take 20 models
is 13/12/11 with 5!! HP
if it takes the demo cannon it can only take 10 models (pff only)
135 basic and can take a flare shield for the usual cost and same for armoured ceramite..... this "transport" is very very good

for lols you can also take arvus lighters as dedicated transports, but unlike the normal ones, these do not snap shot all the time and are actually pretty tasty for the low cost.

 Davespil wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:
hmm the questoris paladin might be new...

are there weapon upgrades/downgrades by any chance?

The only thing that differs is that it has a different stock gun (higher ROF, lower S) than the 40K Paladin, but can exchange it for the RFBC that the 40K Paladin has for free.

There are multiple up/downgrades, the most important being that you can specify your Knigtly rank, rather than rolling for it, and pay points/receive a reduction as appropriate.

You can also buy upgrades that give any Knight chassis an ability, and also a battlefield role/FOC. For instance, there's an upgrade that makes the Knight a HS choice that gives it Skyfire if it doesn't move.

I'm giving this to my Castigator as a matter of course I think!

All ways up, it is an infinitely better list than the official Codex and I will be requesting permission to use it in my 40K games on the rare occasions I feel like giving my Knights something to do other than sitting in my cabinet looking awesome.

Ah see Im mostly just trying to find ways to use my dreamfoege leviathans as something other than diplay pieces, too small to be a warhound too large to be a knight but just the right size for a cerastus knight, but sadly not armed appeopriately

You can use the Leviathan with a sword and chain gun to be a castigator.

Yeah, but I have a bunch of non-chaingun weapons id like to use as well.

SUPER IMPORTANT

They clarify that you don't use battleforged or unbound; you use their FOC and ally system instead, there's no malefic daemonology unless specifically stated, and that in 30k games only troops score unless otherwise stated.

pg.240 for people who may have missed it

I was kind of hoping for more options for the Solar Auxilia list, its good, but dam that would be an expensive army to run. On the plus side I can use some of my D-99 squads as velataris storm sections and flamer support squad.

I feel Vostroyan's would make a wonderful range of models to use for this army list too

KRIEG too, they would fit the not too chaosy traitors

All of the solar auxilia has carapace armour right?

BTW what sort of size difference is there between a dracosan and a thunderer siege tank? Anybody compared the two models? As far as I can see the dracosan is just slightly longer.

 ansacs wrote:
All of the solar auxilia has carapace armour right?

Pretty much. The highest-ranked HQ can take artificer armor and the enginseers have power armor as usual, but everything else has void armor (carapace with bonuses).

BTW what sort of size difference is there between a dracosan and a thunderer siege tank? Anybody compared the two models? As far as I can see the dracosan is just slightly longer.

There's a big difference. I don't have either model, but my Malcador and Destroyer are the same hulls. The width is about the same, but the Dracosan is about 2" longer (5" vs. 7") and 1.5" taller (track height is about the same on both models, but the Dracosan has the bits sticking up while the Thunderer is flat on top). And visually it's not even close, the Malcador hull just looks a lot bigger compared to the tiny LRBT.

 Peregrine wrote:
There's a big difference. I don't have either model, but my Malcador and Destroyer are the same hulls. The width is about the same, but the Dracosan is about 2" longer (5" vs. 7") and 1.5" taller (track height is about the same on both models, but the Dracosan has the bits sticking up while the Thunderer is flat on top). And visually it's not even close, the Malcador hull just looks a lot bigger compared to the tiny LRBT.

Okay so it is a malcador hull. Thnx then it is definitely a good deal larger. That also explains the price.