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2014/12/12 08:37:55
Subject: Necron release rumours (prices and pics in first post)
Schedule
Crammed into the GW schedule right before the new year.
Pre-orders Dec. 19th
Street date: Dec 26th
(Previous chatter from last month says first week of January)
Models
Little to no new models (a la Grey Knights)
(scattered chatter says perhaps 1 character clampack and 1 Destroyer/DestroyerLord plastic kit)
Rules
Look for Nerfs to the following:
Doom Scythes
Night Scythes
Tesla will get an overhaul to their rules.
Deathray will receive a big overhaul to how it targets models.
Characters remain fundamentally unchanged.
The Stormlord will recieve a Necron themed orbital bombardment of some type once per game.
Warlord Traits are good with some granting individual units USRs, while another listed granted an improved version of Reanimation Protocols
Rumors are rated: Above-Average, coming from known and unknown sources.
~ It's gonna be CRAZY if GW just keeps releasing new products right through Christmas. I mean what will 2015 bring if less than 18 months after a new edition, every codex has been done in hardback?
Take with salt because of the source.....
Automatically Appended Next Post: Worth noting that Lords of War gaming have it for January-
A little bit of correction of the Necron rumors: They will receive a codex, but it will be in January. There will be a major change to FoC in this codex. You will also see the release of the third "End Times" book in January as well.
And i know out of the two who i believe more.....
Darnok just posted on Warseer
For now I don't have much but this:
Codex: Necrons to be released on the 31st of January
two clampack characters alongside the codex - nothing else
I expect some cards as well, but concerning new models it will only be those two clampacks. As can be seen in the SoB: Exterminatus book, some boxes of existing models will get a repackage with the new 32mm bases.
BoLS wrote-
This Necron Rumor season has been all over the place, but at last it's starting to gel. Here's today's news:
The latest word on the Necrons:
Short-term Stuff
Necrons - January 2015
Minis:
-Clampack Necron Lord
-Clampack Cryptek
Codex is described at "thick, almost Space Marine sized". Look for it to include lots of fluff, as well as many Lords of War & Formations (possibly some of the Apoc ones.)
Medium-term Stuff
Later in 2015, Necrons will star in a Campaign Book, alongside 3 additional kits (both reworks, and new kits)
These Rumors are rated RELIABLE, coming from known good sources.
The most interesting thing of this bunch to me is the word of a Necron Campaign book coming later in 2015 with 3 new kits attached. It would appear that the success of Stormclaw, Shield of Baal, and the WFB End Times series is moving Games Workshop in a new direction. It looks like we can from now on expect to see a "two-track" parallel releases of the traditional army codices with accompanying supplemental codices (and some minis), with a second track of these "X vs Y" campaigns that include book sets with integrated new rules and minis as well.
via Danboy Jack in the Faeit 212 Comment sections
Necron rumors I heard are pretty dire, shop worker who is a close friend of mine got this info while he was up hq for some training purposes last week.
Gauss will now on a roll of a six be double strength against vehicles so rifles str8, the immortal ones str 10 instead of auto glancing.
the stand back up rule is gone now all necrons have a 5+ invuln save made better by a res orb by +1 on troops and +2 on characters because they have removed the 3+ invuln item res orbs 5pts dearer.
He also saw a change/notes for both flayed ones and scarabs but didn't have time to read them properly other than scarabs do two things on a 5 and a 6 now. I'm guessing an armour point gone on only a 5 now and maybe a glance on a 6? That's speculation on my part.
Please i'm just repeating what i was told today he's a bit of a joker my mate but he really was up there last week as some other guy was covering the shop.
Re: Necron Rumours Mk.II
Necrons have a whole new way to build an army! The Decurion. It's both opening a lot of options and restrictive at the same time, as weird as it sounds. You can use it instead of normal FoC if you want. also keep in mind that it's the usual me reading the WD super fast when I have the time so there may be mistakes:
You basically can chose a base formation that includes all of your basic units.
It must contain: - 1 Overlord (or Zandrek, Anraky, Trazyn or a Barge), 2 units of Warriors, 1 of Immortal and 1 of Tomb Blades.
You lose Objectives Secured, Overlord and all units from this formation within 12" reroll 1 to Protocols, and two fluffy but not usually useful rules: Move through Cover and Relentless (in case you really want to charge with your Warriors/Immortals after shooting =/, which is funny because even in the WD they realize it's the only use).
You can add 6 units of Warriors, 3 of Immortals, 2 Lychguards, 2 Tomb Blades if I remember correctly and 3 Monoliths.
No reroll on the Warlord table for it, probably because it's not really a normal detachment.
Once done you can add a Royal court formation: 1 Overlord (same as previously except it can be the Stormlord now), up to 3 Cryptek and up to 3 Lords.
Then, you can add up to 10 of the available formations, which are all about a theme, in any number if I've read it right, (which I'll be able to confirm later today) so you can go full Destroyer if you want for example:
- One is 1 Destroyer Lord, 3 units of Destroyer, and can add 1 unit of Heavy Destroyers (Ohhhhhhhhh, they are no longer Destroyer upgrades?).
- One allow you to add a Nightbringer Shard, Deceiver Shard, ACtan or Vault. (Ohhhhhhhh, they refer to the shards by their name!)
- One is 2 Annihilation Barge and a Doomsday Ark
- I think there is one with an Obelisk and 2 Monoliths.
- One is 1 Spyder, 1 unit of Wraiths, 1 of Scarabs
- 1 Stalker and 2 Praetorians
- 1 unit of Deathmarks (yup, just 1 if I remember right)
- 1 unit of Flayed Ones
- One is up to 4 Doom Scythes (remember folks, I go from memory so I may be messing up numbers)
And so on, I have no idea if these formations can be taken outside of the Decurion, as I didn't have enough time to read in detail. Also I'm pretty sure that there are no Night Scythes and Ghost Arks formations, thus they shall still be dedicated transports I suppose.
Also I do not expect anything else for the Necrons as the end of the WD refer for the following week to "Dance of Death".
EDIT-
Apparently Necrons are not repackaged? So the same models may have different bases depending if they come from individual boxes or the new battleforce?
via an anonymous source on Faeit 212
This is from the new White Dwarf.
The Decurion Detachment is a new way of organizing Necrons. Formations are broken down into three groups, Command, Core, and Auxiliary.
Command
Royal Court (0-1 per Reclamation Legion)
*1 Overlord/ Imotekh
*1-3 Lords
*1-3 Crypteks
Highly doubtful.
This is the same guy whose "reliable" source said the codex was coming out the week of Halloween.
I mean, FFS, he didn't even mention anything about the formation that was talked about in the latest Sheild of Baal stuff!
I'm done listening to anyone who has a bad track record... so in other words, I'm hanging out for more word from Lords Of Wargaming.
When will we learn that starting a thread based on BOLS rumors is just going to turn into wish listing?
Let's see some REAL information before the uneducated info.
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I can see it going up for preorders on the 26/27 of December for an early January release. I'm interested to see what happens as I've always played spaaaace mehrines and this is my first foray into xenos.
Lords of Wargaming also mentioned a plastic clampack for a lord. So not exactly like the GK release
In the UkGw stores are closed on boxing day/26th Dec.
there's also no one -- guards aside perhaps at GWHQ on the 26th December.
so that's wrong for a start.
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Rumor: Everything interesting will be castrated.
Necrons were pretty basic before outside of stuff they're clearly going to lose. Let's see if they can out bland even their 3rd edition codex
26th of Dec...and miss the X-mas holiday. Not so sure on this one.
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angelofvengeance wrote: Sounds silly but I've found my models perform better in games when they've had a lick of paint on them!
We'd get a video a week ahead of time announcing pre-orders, like we have with everything else. When I read the quoted section I just said "no" out loud and shook my head.
So basically, no. Pretty much nothing to see here.
Bols is in all likelihood wrong again, and the only credible source cited is info from the other thread.
Move along, folks, we'll all gather again once something more concrete is spotted.
The more I think about, the more this codex scares me. I see potential to bring this codex on-line with 7th edition, perhaps an update to make some of the special characters good, but overall I just see the best bits of the codex getting nerfed with nothing to make it viable. Maybe I'm a pessimist, maybe I am pragmatic, the codex release will confirm which.
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Because the softback Necron codex is no longer available at the GW store
Wait, so two click bait sites posted it? Oh, I totally believe it now...
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Thankfully I haven't bought into Necrons yet. If a new dex is released, I'm reading it before buying anything. I'll see what's OP after the release so I can run 3.
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I suppose they'll be "right" eventually, just not this Christmas.
BoLS in August 2014 wrote:New talk is doing the rounds on the Necrons coming in the months ahead, on the heels of Grey Knights.
Codexwise: the Necron codex is described as being a minimal updated codex, similar to Grey Knights, crammed into a very short release window.
Models: Unlike Grey Knights there is talk of a new combo-plastic kit for Destroyers which will include the parts for Heavy Destroyers and Necron Destroyer Lords. There is mixed chatter on whether the clear green rod will be replaced with standard plastic.
This is so much "Well... duh." Do you know what? The codex will be printed on paper and have pictures. Petre can put me in the rumor tracker for that.
I'm feeling better about this codex than I did after Orks and Grey Knights. Grey Knights feels like a rush job... without a place in the campaign that it was released around. I was worried that Necrons would be in the same place, however there were hints in the last campaign the indicate necrons. Being tied to the campaign means that they have been working on them almost as long as they have been working on Blood Angels.
Grey Knights were also demoted from being a solo codex into being a ally... something that couldn't do with necrons anymore than they could do with eldar, orks, or tau. There is no one
Finally, I think that Blood Angles will turn out to be a solid solid codex, just like Wolves and Dark Eldar have turned out to be. We are seeing a bit of a balancing of the codicies... and in the age of dataslates corrections can be made (see Nids). The Necrons popping up in the midst of these good codicies has me cautiously hopeful. Cautiously. We will see some of our rules depowered. That's the 'well... duh' part of things. I don't expect too much added, and I expect points to adjusted.
Soon, it will be Necron player's turn to howl with the changes... changes that make the game better overall. After that... I wonder how soon changes to Eldar and Tau can come.
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Dec 26 release isn't as daft as some think it is, it's one of the busiest US shopping days, I think #3 or 4, used to be #1. Everyone's rushing out to return things and spend all that holiday cash and those giftcards.
Not saying I necessarily buy that date, but it's not as off as some may htink.
Personally, I'd wager that anyone expecting Tesla weapons, Annihilation Barges, Night Scythes, Mindshackle Scarabs, Stormlord, and a couple other units to come through without significant nerfing will be disappointed.
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Ravenous D wrote: 40K is like a beloved grandparent that is slowly falling into dementia and the rest of the family is in denial about how bad it is.
squidhills wrote: GW is scared of girls. Why do you think they have so much trouble sculpting attractive female models? Because girls have cooties and the staff at GW don't like looking at them for too long because it makes them feel funny in their naughty place.
Vaktathi wrote: Dec 26 release isn't as daft as some think it is...
Unless you take into account that GW has already released a 40K codex this month.
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The biggest thing that makes me question this release schedule is that they timed it for a *after* Christmas release - as no one could purchase models in time for little Timmy to open up under the tree.
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