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Made in us
Courageous Silver Helm





okay so i know i probably won't get any posts on this so here goes nothing
if you do have a comment please leave it so i can finish this list

Archmage
-Lv 4
-book of Hoeth
-Lore of Metal

Mage
-Lv 2
-Dispel Scroll
-Khaine's Ring of Fury
-Lore of High Magic

14 Archers

20 Lothern Sea Guard
-FC

10 Silver Helms
-FC

2 Lion Chariots of Chrace

19 Phoenix Guard
-Razor Banner
-FC
-Mage here

20 White Lions
-FC
-Banner of The World Dragon

3 Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers

Frostheart Phoenix

any thoughts and comments?????????
   
Made in us
Nimble Ellyrian Reaver



Longmont, Co

Hello-

I cannot remember the last time I took an archmage and didnt give him the tali. Your sticking him with the phoenix guard? No way that guy is going to be doing much of anything (because he's dead). With this list you've got he belongs with the seaguard. If you must stick him with the PG then trade the book for the ward. (dont put him with the PG)

I fell very strongly that HE shooting is pretty worthless. hitting on 5's wounding on 5's then armor saves isnt the way to get anything done. You could kill some chaff but thats about it.

For HE core i pretty consistently take 30 blocks of spears. Still wounding on 5's but at least your hitting way better and then are being steadfast and doing stuff.

Silver helms are cool just dont perform for me. Id just take 9 and run them 3x3 for maximum attacks and maneuverability.

When I play huge games I'll use a big block of seaguard for a mage bunker. Normally seaguard are a bad investment but if you need a mage bunker their dual purpose is almost a little plausible. "if we have to sit here we might as well be shooting, oh look here comes trouble *spears*"

Do your silver helms have shields? they kind of a random addition to an army that already lacks purpose. This list is all over the place. Some good combat blocks, a little bit of shooting a tiny bit of cav and a monster.

Our core is pretty worthless as a whole so you have to at least compliment your army with what ever you do take. You have a little taste of everything and nothing is going to be effective on its own or contribute to the army as a whole.

Not sure how much of your playstyle is reflected in this list but if it was me id basically drop the shooting. Its harder than you would think to leave yourself good shooting targets for your ranged when your looking to chop some fools up in combat. (plus no good targets for s3 bows)

The strength of the HE army is our special units combat effectiveness. Glass cannon-ism at its finest.

Not sure what you have model wise but if I was going to suggest stuff it would be pretty significant.

Rework all your core. Im in love with two units of 30 spears with standard and 5 reavers at 2500 points. If you want the cav then Id do something like 2 units of 9 with shields and standard plus either a bunker for your mage or some reavers.

Drop the 3 Xbows for another frostheart. When it came down to point scalping id drop the chariots as they are kinda lackluster. Just ask your self- would I rather have two chariots or 20 swordmasters with a standard. They could be a frostheart (arguably the best monster in game pre end times). You could instead have a unit of 28 white lions and 25 phoenix guard.

Biggest thing is your list needs synergy and has none.

z






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Oh your caddy is going with the pg not the archy.

Still, he going to die like a punk and is a waste of points just to try and up their ward save.

If your archy is with the archers (?) they will be having range issues.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/01/14 06:48:02


All of the things. Most of the time. 
   
Made in gb
Water-Caste Negotiator





Celestial Realm

SEAGUARD! I love them! Bolt Throwers are really cool and quite effective unless they get into close combat. Frostheart Phoenix is always a good choice as it is a very mighty monster. White Lions and Phoenix Guard are the strongest units in the High Elf army so it's good to have them. Mage and Archmage are quite easy to kill so try to avoid them being challenged. Silver Helms are quite fast and have a cool armour save and Lion Chariots are great for flanking units. Hope this helps

"Good men mean well, we just don’t always end up doing well." 
   
Made in au
Stubborn White Lion





At the moment this list is trying to do a bit of everything. In the process it doesn't really do anything well. The shooting elements are detracting from what is mainly an infantry combat list and then there are the Silver Helms thrown in who are completely out of place. The list is also reasonably devoid of chaff, which is odd considering High Elves have access to fantastic chaff options in Reavers and Eagles. There's also no BSB, which should be a given.

What models do you have to choose from, if any? Or are you building this force from scratch? What type of army are you trying to build here? Advice almost seems semi-redundant without knowing that kind of stuff.


Warhammer is the right of all sentient nerds!
 
   
Made in gb
Agile Revenant Titan




In the Casualty section of a Blood Bowl dugout

Ok, a few things,

Firstly drop the LSG, as they're an underpar unit who are less efficient than the other Core choices. Drop them and either get another unit of archers, or some more Silver Helms. If, by doing this, you can get a unit of 15 Helms, that's fine, but, if not, split the helms up into two units of 5/6 with just a musician in each.

20 White Lions really aren't going to do all that much on their own, so I'd drop them and get a BSB (vitally important), beef up your Phoenix Guard a little more (to at least 25), two Eagles (which are really useful in lists where you have hard hitting units on the charge), and a talisman for your Archmage, if there's any points remaining.

Next, on your characters, you'll want to run the Lore of Shadow on your Lvl4, and keep him nice and safe in the archers. I wouldn't go with High Magic on your Lvl2, as you can, if you wish, give Khaine's ring to the BSB, stick him in the Phoenix Guard, and use that to boost their Ward Save. Lvl1 Beasts would probably be the most effective use of your hero Mage, but Metal would work well too.

Finally, I find Dragon Princes much more effective than Lion Chariots, but if you want to include the chariots, then that's fine.

Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask!

DT:90S+++G++MB++IPwhfb06#+++D+A+++/eWD309R+T(T)DM+

9th Age Fantasy Rules

 
   
Made in us
Courageous Silver Helm





Okay so some ideas above good and I agree with I guess I need to post the tactic I isually go with as an elf player and explain my choices

Okay so I've been running a list similar to this for 2 years now with good success sitting at 56 wins/18 ties/20 losses

The tactic I usually do is a battle line

I use my spearmen (who I made sea guard to help with core points) and my archers in the middle supported in either side by my special like this

PG SPEAR WL
ARCH
My archmage has almost never died except in rare cases so idk what first dude is going on about secondly he goes with the archers and is now taking lore of life (agreed metal was situational choice)
The mage goes with PG to bumb ward save (not changing this deal with it)
As to chariots yes I agree they're meh

The silver helps I added because I wanted to try using cavalry because usually I run an all infantry list outside my Phoenix

So now that I've said that my tactics are I sully block up infantry in the middle with bolt throwers behind then I put monster and Calvary appropriately to either support or disrupt enemy then I wait for my right moment to counter charge

The new list I've built using above advice is this


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Archmage
-Lv 4
-book of Hoeth
-Lore of Life

Mage
-Lv 2
-Dispel Scroll
-Lore of High Magic

NobleBSB
-Star Lance
-Barded Steed
-DragonHelm
-Dragon Armour

14 Archers (Archmage here)

20 Lothern Sea Guard (needed core points upgrade from spear)
-FC

9 Silver Helms
-FC

24 Phoenix Guard
-Razor Banner
-FC
-Mage here

25 White Lions
-FC
-Banner of The World Dragon

3 Eagle Claw Bolt Throwers

Frostheart Phoenix

is this any better???


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Anything anybody???

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/01/15 02:14:27


 
   
 
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