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Hey everyone. I came across some high elves and decided to pick them up. I haven't played WHFB since 6th I want to say however I do play 40k regularly. So please any input would be great. I will list the army I built and the models I have left over to see what everyone things. Thanks in advice.

Lords
Alarielle

Anointed of Asuryan- stock
Flamespire Phoenix

Heros
Sea helm-BSB , banner of avelorn

Mage lvl 2- lore of shadow

Noble -lance , heavy armor, shield
Great eagle -SS , talons

Core

35 sea guard w/shields

10 archers

10 archers

Special

20 white lions- Full command w/ banner of world dragon

10- swordsmasters - stock no command

Bolt thrower
Bolt thrower


Ok so the queen, sea helm BSB go with the white lions and make them beastly. The mage will go with the sea guard to help them with more of shadow. The noble and Phoenix flank or get warmachines or what not. The sword masters will roll in a 3 x 3 formation with one in the rear to make a spear/ extra flank unit . I will keep them near by the white lions to get buffs from the queen. And ideas , comments would be great. As for what I have left over are.

10 dragon princes
30 more sword masters with command
5 more sea guard
Another mage
And noble on eagle
Noble on horse
Mage on horse



   
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Celestial Realm

SEAGUARD! I like them. A lot. They're cool at shooting and being a standard infantry unit. I would say that the Dragon Princes are the best at flanking, but the Swordmasters and White Lions are are also surprisingly good at the same job. Rest of the list is fine. Wouldn't really change anything, just make sure Alarielle and the Mage don't get challenged as they're awful in close combat. Hope this helps

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I'd suggest building a large central unit out of either the White Lions or the Sword Masters, not trying to use both. I run a thirty-man White Lions unit with Alarielle, BSB, and extra Mages; if you're going to invest in the Banner of Averlorn, by the way, it's probably better to have additional Mages who use the Lores it affects.

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Ok, certainly not a bad start, just a few things I'd suggest.

Firstly, and this is a good general rule of thumb for WHFB as well, characters on monstrous mounts or monsters are a bad idea as it makes them an easy target and, more often than not, the monster will not be able to get its points back. Now, an anointed on a Flamespyre is a possible exception. Whilst it's certainly not the best unit, having a ridiculously expensive model be able to come alive on a 5+ is pretty nifty. I'd advise you drop it (in favour of a normal Flamespyre or, even better, a Frostheart) but if you do really like the model, then by all means keep it. The Noble on the Eagle, however, is pretty useless, so I'd drop him.

Secondly, Seaguard are a sub-optimal unit and you will get far better mileage out of the equivalent points in Archers or, as would be slightly better in this list, Spearmen. I assume it's the IoB Seaguard you have, which pass perfectly well as Spearmen, so no worries there. Similarly, the Sea Helm is generally inferior to a standard Noble. The reform rule is fairly nifty, but, especially with good positioning, you'll find it doesn't come in very useful often. On top of that, the Noble is better in combat and has access to better equipment, so I'd always go with the Noble. Again, a Sea Helm can pass for a Noble.

Next, as some more minor nitpicks:

- Get a Dispel Scroll on your Lvl2 Mage. The Dispel Scroll is an essential item and no list should lack one.

- Drop the Swordmasters down to 6/7 (and add another unit of them if you feel like it) and run them in a single rank 6/7 wide, with a musician. This allows them to maximise attacks per point. You'll find that such a unit is cheap enough that you won't lament losing it, but powerful enough so that your opponent can't afford to simply ignore it.

- I'd recommend taking the Nobles off the two Eagles you have (or simply pretending they're not there) and running two lone Eagles (no upgrades). These units are great for war machine hunting and just generally getting in the way and annoying your opponent, allowing you to dictate the movement phase. Speaking of which, if you find yourself under your Core tax after switching the Sea Guard to Spearmen, for example, it may be worth investing in some Ellyrian Reavers, who perform a similar role.

- Finally, it's worth getting another box of White Lions to make the unit 30 strong. You'll find most Fantasy lists have a central unit (often a "deathstar") around which the army is built and so your central unit (in this case, the White Lions) needs to be able to compete. 30 strong is a good size for doing so. You'll find bigger is better for most infantry units.

Hope this helps, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask!

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Thanks for all the in put! I have took what you all said and did some research and came up with another list that I will post as well. Thanks again!
   
 
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