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2015/01/29 22:15:38
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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Reclamation Legion
Bargelord w/ Phylactery, Phase Shifter, Warscythe
10x Warriors w/ Ghost Ark
10 x Warriors w/ Night Scythe
5 x Immortals w/ Night Scythe
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
Total :
Formations
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder Gloom Prism
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder w/ Gloom Prism
Total : 1799
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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2015/01/29 23:48:54
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Someone got their codex early Automatically Appended Next Post: No 2+ on the Lord?
I would consider swapping the 2nd warrior unit over to a Ghostark. Gives you more target saturation for the Bargelord and the boost to the Gauss Arrays makes them more appealing.
My biggest concern with the list is ranged AT. I can see Imperial Knights causing you a real problem. But otherwise I really like it. Got to love Tomb Blades
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2015/01/30 03:23:46
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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What should I add I got like 51 points, uh I kind of need some flying defense. I think at least or more Tomb Blades. He doesn't really need a 2+, anything that's going to be AP3 will probably not be ST10 so just put it against the Barge If it's ST6 or less.
He's got a 3+ , AV 13, So immune to ST6 , 4++, 4++, 5++ . I don't know how you'd actually kill him with shooting.
I thought about the double Ghost Arks, but I dunno.
By the way Tomb Blades are T5 , 3+ Armour, 4+ Jink, 4+ Reanimation Protocol. Their insanely good. Also, Twin Linked Gauss that ignores cover, yeah okay I'm okay with Rapid Firing that at Fliers.
Reclamation Legion
Bargelord w/ Phylactery, Phase Shifter, Warscythe
10x Warriors w/ Ghost Ark
10 x Warriors w/ Ghost Ark
5 x Immortals w/ Night Scythe
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
Formations
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder Gloom Prism
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder w/ Gloom Prism
Total : 1769
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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2015/01/30 08:12:03
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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A 2+ helps him against Krak missiles and S7/8 AP4- stuff (and Serpent Shields) particularly if it ignores cover. Yes he gets his armour against those but he'll fail half as many requiring double the wounding hits to take him down.
For instance a unit of Broadsides fires at him with 3 ML hits. So it ignores cover and is Bs5. It hits all 12 times (likely) if you put those hits on the Chariot they should over kill (average 3.67 HPs) so you have to put them on the Lord. So that's 10 wounding hits on him. So 3.33 unsaved wounds. Sure RPs kicks in and will take that down so he shouldn't die but it is a risk, then when the next unit of 'sides fires at him you're expecting to lose him. A 2+ save just shifts that so that the Lord laughs off the first unit and isn't even starting to worry until the 3rd or 4th unit. It also helps in combat to power swords and means he can charge a unit of Grey Knights with only any concern for 1 weapon (the hammer) which can generally be challenged out).
So I'd spend some of your spare points on that. I'd spend the rest of the points on more Jetbikes 'o Dooooom!!!
Also remember the Ghostark gets all 20 shots at 24" range now which is awesome. Also Wraiths with 4+ RP at T5 is a little silly to say the least
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2015/01/30 08:44:17
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Tail-spinning Tomb Blade Pilot
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I think this is about the best list any army can field right now. Very little weakness. I see this as being the standard core necron army until next dex!
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15k+
3k+
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2015/01/30 08:52:14
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Ffyllotek wrote:I think this is about the best list any army can field right now. Very little weakness. I see this as being the standard core necron army until next dex!
This list is very strong. But there are other strong lists out there. Also this list doesn't include any Destroyers who are VERY strong in the new dex nor any Triarch units which are also very good. Annihibarges are still strong and Doomsday Arks are useable now.
I'm not saying this list isn't strong just there are lots of other strong options in the dex. Competitively the inability for the Dlord to work with the Wraiths as effectively hurts them but my guess is the following will all be competitive Cron builds; AV13 spam, Tomb Blade Spam, Destroyerwing, Wraithwing (and combos of those).
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2015/01/30 14:54:15
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Fresh-Faced New User
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FlingitNow wrote:Ffyllotek wrote:I think this is about the best list any army can field right now. Very little weakness. I see this as being the standard core necron army until next dex!
This list is very strong. But there are other strong lists out there. Also this list doesn't include any Destroyers who are VERY strong in the new dex nor any Triarch units which are also very good. Annihibarges are still strong and Doomsday Arks are useable now.
I'm not saying this list isn't strong just there are lots of other strong options in the dex. Competitively the inability for the Dlord to work with the Wraiths as effectively hurts them but my guess is the following will all be competitive Cron builds; AV13 spam, Tomb Blade Spam, Destroyerwing, Wraithwing (and combos of those).
forgive me for beeing a bit unclear on the rules here, but why can't a destroyer lord join a unit of wraiths in the new dex ?
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2015/01/30 15:01:36
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Nimbuz wrote: FlingitNow wrote:Ffyllotek wrote:I think this is about the best list any army can field right now. Very little weakness. I see this as being the standard core necron army until next dex!
This list is very strong. But there are other strong lists out there. Also this list doesn't include any Destroyers who are VERY strong in the new dex nor any Triarch units which are also very good. Annihibarges are still strong and Doomsday Arks are useable now.
I'm not saying this list isn't strong just there are lots of other strong options in the dex. Competitively the inability for the Dlord to work with the Wraiths as effectively hurts them but my guess is the following will all be competitive Cron builds; AV13 spam, Tomb Blade Spam, Destroyerwing, Wraithwing (and combos of those).
forgive me for beeing a bit unclear on the rules here, but why can't a destroyer lord join a unit of wraiths in the new dex ?
It's not that he can't join them, it's that he is now a jetpack unit (or so the rumor is that I've heard). So he can only move 6" in the movement phase. That will drastically reduce the Wraiths' movement.
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2015/01/30 15:07:52
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Exactly it is not that the DLord can't join the Wraiths just that he can't keep up with them so they don't work well together like they did before.
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2015/01/30 15:17:13
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Zimko wrote:Nimbuz wrote: FlingitNow wrote:Ffyllotek wrote:I think this is about the best list any army can field right now. Very little weakness. I see this as being the standard core necron army until next dex!
This list is very strong. But there are other strong lists out there. Also this list doesn't include any Destroyers who are VERY strong in the new dex nor any Triarch units which are also very good. Annihibarges are still strong and Doomsday Arks are useable now.
I'm not saying this list isn't strong just there are lots of other strong options in the dex. Competitively the inability for the Dlord to work with the Wraiths as effectively hurts them but my guess is the following will all be competitive Cron builds; AV13 spam, Tomb Blade Spam, Destroyerwing, Wraithwing (and combos of those).
forgive me for beeing a bit unclear on the rules here, but why can't a destroyer lord join a unit of wraiths in the new dex ?
It's not that he can't join them, it's that he is now a jetpack unit (or so the rumor is that I've heard). So he can only move 6" in the movement phase. That will drastically reduce the Wraiths' movement.
Ahh thats right, totally forgot about the movement thnx for pointing that out to me
sorry for going a little bit off topic !
all in all a great list
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2015/01/30 16:42:35
Subject: Re:[1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Fixture of Dakka
Chicago, Illinois
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Okay final list
Bargelord w/ Phylactery, Phase Shifter, Warscythe, Nightmare Shroud
10x Warriors w/ Ghost Ark
10 x Warriors w/ Ghost Ark
5 x Immortals w/ Night Scythe
6 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
5 Tomb Blades w/ Nebuloscope, Shield Vane
Formations
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder Gloom Prism, Particle Beamer
Canoptek Harvest
4 Canoptek Wraiths w/ Whip Coils
3 Scarabs
1 Tomb Spyder Gloom Prism, Particle Beamer
Total : 1849
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If I lose it is because I had bad luck, if you win it is because you cheated. |
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2015/01/30 16:50:10
Subject: [1850] - Necron - Decurion Formation
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Looks good.
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