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Say you had to choose a single HQ/LOW to fight of 200 Cultists in a city sort of landscape. 100 of the Cultists have got Autopistols and CCW's, and the rest have Autoguns.

The rules are: No cheese. The cultists need to be able to hurt you.
No vehicles, walkers, IK's, Riptides etc.
You have an infinite amount of points.

I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

Didn't you make this exact same thread two weeks ago?

Nah, that was 50 cultists.

With cheese.

The problem is that mathematically, if even 50 of them gets a charge, that is 150 attacks, The best case is 2+ armour, T5+ and Ws7+ i guess, which is 6*6*3 attacks needed per wound, which means about 110 hits. Add FNP and we are at like 140? Any HQ will be bogged down by pure number of attacks in melee if the Cultists are blobbed. I guess a 2+ HQ with T5, Ws7, rerollable saves and FnP would have a chance, but i am not sure that this HQ exists. The only way to do it would be to be faster and have the ability to outrange the Cultists.
Or just do it the easy way, Nurgle Prince with ML3 and familliar, roll Daemonology and summon things that can stand in the way. A Hq that can guarantee a charge and kill so many cultists that they can never hit back would work too (basically a HQ who always kills everything within 3" so that cultists never can pile into base contact).

Your Termie lord would die horribly, drowning in corpses.

Warboss with MegaArmour, Da Lucky Stikk, Cybork, Attack Squig, Bosspole and Kombi-Skorcha.

That's T5 with 2+ save with (somewhat limited) rerolls and 6+ FNP..

Version with a bit of cheese - SM Iron Hands Supplement Chapter Master with bike, arti armour, Chain of Gorgons, Power Fist, Power Claw, Betrayer's Bane, Digi Weapons - HUGE load of points, but seriously, this guy can deal with even more cultists, especially if he would get IWND.


Version without cheese - GK Grand Master with Soul Glavie, Master Crafted Incinerator, Digital Weapons. Great thing, especially with right Psychic Powers

 Matthew wrote:


I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

You must be kidding.

Are these 200 Cultists a single unit or all individuals? 10 units of 20?

Aetaos'rau'keres? I mean he's 999 points but I think it would be fair unless you meant Ex-HQ LOW like Logan and Ghazgkull.

 XT-1984 wrote:

 Matthew wrote:


I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

You must be kidding.

Are these 200 Cultists a single unit or all individuals? 10 units of 20?

Yeah.

 Matthew wrote:

 XT-1984 wrote:

 Matthew wrote:


I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

You must be kidding.

Are these 200 Cultists a single unit or all individuals? 10 units of 20?

Yeah.

You can't answer with "Yeah" to a question that involved the word "or"

 Matthew wrote:

 XT-1984 wrote:

 Matthew wrote:


I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

You must be kidding.

Are these 200 Cultists a single unit or all individuals? 10 units of 20?

Yeah.

Did this reply make anyone else bristle on the inside? Be'Lakor would give it a good go, invis himself and dominate another unit and shriek another. He'd take a good few down before he died.

 ALEXisAWESOME wrote:

 Matthew wrote:

 XT-1984 wrote:

 Matthew wrote:


I would take a Chaos Termi Lord with a Power Claw, Combi-Bolter, Aura Of Dark Glory, MoT, Combat Familiar, and Ichor Blood.

You must be kidding.

Are these 200 Cultists a single unit or all individuals? 10 units of 20?

Yeah.

Did this reply make anyone else bristle on the inside?

Nope. That is what we call a "mathematician's answer". It is technically correct...and completely useless.

Ahriman with Tzeentch firestorm would be good. Especially if they are running in a single squad of 200!

CCS with MoO, stay out of range, attrition the fethers with large blasts.

Furioso librarian. Done and done.

 Matthew wrote:
Nah, that was 50 cultists.

With cheese.

I know you're young, but you're running close to the line of "the reason nobody likes kids".

Keep that in mind every time you think you have a new thread topic to post.

"Is this for here or to go?"

"yes."


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I'd take that new Solitaire, depending on what the enigmas of the black library are, he could be quite the blender!

Using the new Necron Codex with the Mephrit Dynasty from Shield of Baal.

Destroyer Lord
Warscythe, Gauntlet of Fire, The Nightmare Shroud, Solar Thermasite, Phylactery

T6, 2+ rerollable save, followed by a 5+ RAP, 3 wounds and IWND.

I mean they can technically hurt him so...

I'd throw in the Orb of Eternity as well but only 1 Artefact of the Aeons per model (good thing Thermasite isn't an Artefact of the Aeons )

If the cultists are in multiple, small units, then the new Stormlord could be fun.

Once per game, roll a dice for all enemy units within 48" - on a 5+ they take d6 S6 hits. He also has a flamer and a 18" S6 AP2 Assault 3 gun.

Also also, he's T5 with a 2+/4+ save, 5+ Necro-no-Pain (4+ if you're allowed to count him as being taken as part of a Decurion detachment), and has IWND.

 SilverDevilfish wrote:
Using the new Necron Codex with the Mephrit Dynasty from Shield of Baal.

Destroyer Lord
Warscythe, Gauntlet of Fire, The Nightmare Shroud, Solar Thermasite, Phylactery

T6, 2+ rerollable save, followed by a 5+ RAP, 3 wounds and IWND.

I mean they can technically hurt him so...

I'd throw in the Orb of Eternity as well but only 1 Artefact of the Aeons per model (good thing Thermasite isn't an Artefact of the Aeons )

You can't share relics from different sources since if you're in the Mephrit Dynasty you can't take relics from the codex.

Also Destroyer lords can't get 2+ armor anymore.

Meh some flavor of DP that if they cast Iron arm they wont be able to hurt.

Because they "Can" hurt him but not really.

Really now is this thread really necessary from the last one?

Commisar Yarrick...just to get the silliness over..in style.

 CrownAxe wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:
Using the new Necron Codex with the Mephrit Dynasty from Shield of Baal.

Destroyer Lord
Warscythe, Gauntlet of Fire, The Nightmare Shroud, Solar Thermasite, Phylactery

T6, 2+ rerollable save, followed by a 5+ RAP, 3 wounds and IWND.

I mean they can technically hurt him so...

I'd throw in the Orb of Eternity as well but only 1 Artefact of the Aeons per model (good thing Thermasite isn't an Artefact of the Aeons )

You can't share relics from different sources since if you're in the Mephrit Dynasty you can't take relics from the codex.

Also Destroyer lords can't get 2+ armor anymore.

Incorrect on several counts.

There's only three relics in the Mephrit list, so they didn't put in a ban on taking the standard ones as well.

The Nightmare Shroud does give a 2+ save, it's just expensive because it has numerous useless side benefits.

200 guardsmen

My wife's rage at the fact that I bought 200 cultists. Having picked up IA13 this might actually happen. Hopefully I'll pass my fear/morale check. Does 5 years of marriage make me a Veteran of the Long War?

Ave Dominus Nox wrote:
My wife's rage at the fact that I bought 200 cultists. Having picked up IA13 this might actually happen. Hopefully I'll pass my fear/morale check. Does 5 years of marriage make me a Veteran of the Long War?

Not yet. Think you need to have a kid and once they finish high school are you allowed the title of Veteran of the Long War.

changemod wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 SilverDevilfish wrote:
Using the new Necron Codex with the Mephrit Dynasty from Shield of Baal.

Destroyer Lord
Warscythe, Gauntlet of Fire, The Nightmare Shroud, Solar Thermasite, Phylactery

T6, 2+ rerollable save, followed by a 5+ RAP, 3 wounds and IWND.

I mean they can technically hurt him so...

I'd throw in the Orb of Eternity as well but only 1 Artefact of the Aeons per model (good thing Thermasite isn't an Artefact of the Aeons )

You can't share relics from different sources since if you're in the Mephrit Dynasty you can't take relics from the codex.

Also Destroyer lords can't get 2+ armor anymore.

Incorrect on several counts.

There's only three relics in the Mephrit list, so they didn't put in a ban on taking the standard ones as well.

The Nightmare Shroud does give a 2+ save, it's just expensive because it has numerous useless side benefits.

We may need a PSA for how the Mephrit relic list works, this interaction seems to pop up in every thread involving Mephrit.

All you really need is to win combat, the Cultists don't have an attached IC to give them Fearless. A MoT Daemon Prince with Invisibility and the Grimoire up is taking on average one Wound if you can get enough Cultists within 2" of base contact of him to be putting a hundred and twenty-five attacks on him, he's inflicting three Wounds back, the Cultists lose combat by two and need to make a Ld test at -2 or break and get chased down. The only thing you absolutely don't want in this fight is Terminator armour, no sweeping advance means you will absolutely be ground down.

 King Pariah wrote:

Ave Dominus Nox wrote:
My wife's rage at the fact that I bought 200 cultists. Having picked up IA13 this might actually happen. Hopefully I'll pass my fear/morale check. Does 5 years of marriage make me a Veteran of the Long War?

Not yet. Think you need to have a kid and once they finish high school are you allowed the title of Veteran of the Long War.

I'll keep that in mind....the Long War continues...

An Adeptus Mechanicus Archmagos with the Lachrimallus Order, Machinator Array, Abeyance, Cyber-familiar, and other gubbins. That's a basically invulnerable goon (T6, 5+ FNP, 2+/3++ saves, IWND, 4 wounds) with a flamer and Move Through Cover. Also, Rad Grenades.

He's slow, but MTC means he will eventually catch them, and a Flamer plus five Power Weapon (of whatever sort) attacks standing means he will crush them when he does. Also, he has less than 2% chance of suffering a single wound from any given Cultist attack, and has IWND and Four wounds.

If they're within 3" of an