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So, I was wanting to expand my Tau army and I took a look at the Forge World site, And the Tau book, Imperial Armour Volume Three, Second Edition: The Taros Campaign. And I was wondering, Is any of the items in this book good and worth getting? Such as the Tetra, Barracuda, Shas'O R'Myr (Love the model), The Piranha TX-42, XV9 Hazard Suits and R'Alai.


Oh, and I dont count the two forge world riptide variants because they are still in experimental rules so we dont know if they will be good or not when their rules are finished.

The Barracuda is way better than your in-codex fliers. Agile gives it +1 to jink for a 3+ save if it must jink, and it has adequate firepower to engage enemy fliers, though it is not quite as damaging as something like a Vendetta.

Tetras do everything Pathfinders do, but can actually take a hit.

Barracudas are miles above and beyond Razorsharks.

Remoras are just cool, although not the most overpowered of things.

Lots of cool Tau stuff, basically!

Both Riptides are good (the new one needs to be toned down a bit IMO), Tetras are AMAZING, Barracudas are better than the Codex fliers as mentioned (I own 2), but I have never had great luck with fliers in the first place. R'Myr is not that amazing, but better than most of the named characters available in the standard codex, R'Alai's rules are included in the book now (I actually field him a lot also, very useful), and the book itself is great for the fluff.

I own a TX-42 and several XV9's because I like they way they look, but they are over priced point wise for the output you get from them.

Noc

Nocturus wrote:
Both Riptides are good (the new one needs to be toned down a bit IMO), Tetras are AMAZING, Barracudas are better than the Codex fliers as mentioned (I own 2), but I have never had great luck with fliers in the first place. R'Myr is not that amazing, but better than most of the named characters available in the standard codex, R'Alai's rules are included in the book now (I actually field him a lot also, very useful), and the book itself is great for the fluff.

I own a TX-42 and several XV9's because I like they way they look, but they are over priced point wise for the output you get from them.

Noc

You could just use the XV9s as normal Crisis Suits I guess.

The new riptide is fine the way it is, -1 wound, and it's threat range is like, 15" or abit more. Sure it can fly every other turn but it's also like, nearing 300pts.

XV9's are great with the burst canons, but Broadsides do it better. The melta variant is pretty cool but crisis suits do it better. Shas'O O'R'alai is pretty good.

Barracuda could also take a Disruption pod couldn't it? 2+ jink?

The super heavies are reletively good. I suggest getting 3 Mantas.

NauticalKendall wrote:
I suggest getting 3 Mantas.

I think you mispelled Tiger Sharks.

I think the AP needs to be increased one point on the Flamer. Make it AP4 standard and AP3 when overcharged. Do that and I think it will be a bit more balanced. Remember, it is a Fast Attack Choice.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
The Barracuda is way better than your in-codex fliers. Agile gives it +1 to jink for a 3+ save if it must jink, and it has adequate firepower to engage enemy fliers, though it is not quite as damaging as something like a Vendetta.

You can also give it a disruption pod for Stealth, giving it a super silly 2+ jink save. Of course, you don't really want to be jinking with the thing, but seeing how it's made out of advanced alien cardboard you will probably have to every now and then.

 Verviedi wrote:

NauticalKendall wrote:
I suggest getting 3 Mantas.

I think you mispelled Tiger Sharks.

nopenopenope need 6 tigershark AX-10's.

Tetras
Barracuda (especially with disruption pods)
Both shiny riptides

Are all great for their forgeworld rules.
I also have Hazard suits converted into commanders just because the suit looks suitably techy for a commander.

As others have said, Tetras. I have 7 and they're amazing. xD I'm also going to argue against people calling Remoras bad. They're stupid cheap for what is essentially (once you throw the DP on it) an unkillable flyer. GL shooting something down that has 4 ups not jinking with snap shots. Get enough of them together (The full 5 squadron is especially hilarious) and they tear pretty much everything else apart.

I use hazard Teams with fusion cascades with great sucess.
3of em with gun drones wipe out 90%of the targets i deepstrike em near to.
2xd3 Hits with s6and ap1plus Gun drones wipe of everything from terminators to wraithknights.
The yvhara also Kicks ass

NauticalKendall wrote:
I suggest getting 3 Mantas.

Not recommended for those that don't make an upper level salary

I'm glad there is so much support for the Tetras. They are my next purchase to replace the pathfinders so I can actually have a mobile source of markerlights (that are not marker drones, I don't want to spend a HQ slot on being a drone wrangler).

Tetra (best markerlight firer in my pinion)
Barracuda (one of the best cost-effective flyers around)

The other stuff isn't that good, sadly (but FW listens to given feedback and will probably change some stuff around). Remoras are a bit expensive for what they're worth, XV-9 and TX-42 are pretty overcosted, the 2 HQs aren't much to speak for, the towers are so-so, the fortification is bad, the heavy gun drone are awful and the kroot stuff went OOP (so no more minis)

There will be a new Imperial Armour centered on Tau (IA 14), and they promised a super-heavy walker! Sadly, our super-heavies aren't too good for their point cost.

About the Tetras, Can you take multiple ones in a squad? And I seem to remember them being nerfed so they no longer have 4 shots.. Wouldent that make them worse then pathfinders as you get less shots for a slot..? (Unless you can take multiple ones in a unit..) Not asking for the rules,

You can grab 4 total Tetras per squad, and they now fire 2 shots, twin-linked

Point for point Tetras are about the same level of effectiveness as pathfinders, and far more durable due to their mobility. I field them in squads of two since it makes them still easy to hide, keeps the point cost down, and they average 3 hits per shooting phase. As a bonus they look cool too...

Noc

Ah, Then Tetras dont sound so bad ^_^ I might try to save up for the Tau book from forge world then and see about getting some forge world units ^_^

It's worth a read either way.

I disagree on the overall notion that Hazard suits are that overpriced. Maybe they could be a LITTLE cheaper, but you pay for T5 and a suit that's hard to keep bogged down in melee. Maybe it's because I got my ass handed to me by a mostly suit list, but I think they're one of Tau's best choices.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
I disagree on the overall notion that Hazard suits are that overpriced. Maybe they could be a LITTLE cheaper, but you pay for T5 and a suit that's hard to keep bogged down in melee. Maybe it's because I got my ass handed to me by a mostly suit list, but I think they're one of Tau's best choices.

I'd say their weapons are way too short ranged to call them "one of the best". The default dual twin linked burst cannons are fun in that and you get to roll lots of dice (and if you want to be cute you buy the wargear that gives them the precision shot special rule), but where they really fall behind other options is the point cost on upgrading their weapons. We're talking 15-30 points per upgraded weapon, and you have to buy each weapon separately (as in a suit wanting two pulse submunitions weapons pays 60 points for that privilege, almost doubling its base cost). It's just so insanely more expensive than buying weapons for crisis suits that I can't ever justify buying anything other than default weapons.