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2015/02/10 20:34:34
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Snivelling Workbot
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I've got a new 2500 list I'm working on and while I know I have a few sub-optimal choices I'd like to hear everyone's opinions. Lords Chaos Lord MoN Great Weapon Dragon Helm Poisonous Slime Scaled Skin Soulfeeder Palanquin of Nurgle 323 pts Heroes Chaos Sorcerer MoN Lv2 Dispel Scroll Barded Chaos Steed 196 pts Exalted Hero MoN BSB Enchanted Shield Luck Stone Burning Body 165 pts Core Chaos Warriors x20 MoN FC Shields Banner of Eternal Flames 380 pts Chaos Warriors x20 MoN FC Halberds Shields Banner of Swiftness 445 pts Warhounds Vanguard 40 pts Warhounds Vanguard 40 pts Special Chaos Knights x7 MoN Ensorcelled Weapons Standard of Discipline 350 pts Gorebeast Chariot MoN 140 pts Rare Hellcannon 210 pts Hellcannon 210 pts Total: 2499 points
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/02/11 00:52:27
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2015/02/11 19:18:00
Subject: Re:[2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Omnipotent Lord of Change
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My concerns are with your characters and standards. Here we go! CHAOS LORD: Palanquin is a mount, isn't it? So this guy's save is currently 0+, making the dragonhelm just a fire ward. Normally I would say swap it to a dragonbane gem ... except you should really be taking a dawnstone Easily paid for by dropping the d.helm and the vanguards on the warhounds. CHAOS SORCERER: What lore are you using? And any chance you could get the ruby ring somewhere in the army? On this guy or elsewise. Two spells doesn't make for a very ferocious casting phase, and a magic missile will also add to whatever lore you choose (Death and Nurgle not being high in MM). STANDARDS: Where are your characters going? Lord in the flaming warriors (6-wide), BSB in the fast warriors (7-wide)? I would really recommend not lighting one of your two kill units on fire, especially if it means your lord's S7 great weapon is flaming too. Flaming wards are a real pisser, and you will absolutely run into combat characters running them to screw over setups just like yours. And anyway, you have the flaming BSB ready to pop a wound in before his buddies wreck regenerating house - it's also easier to hop a single model around and catch regen bastards than it is maneuver an entire unit of warriors against that one target (that absolutely knows the warriors want to fight them). Instead, I would swap the banner of eternal flame for the standard of discipline from the knights. This kicks your lord up to LD 10 (and hence everyone within 12"), which is more useful than giving the knights LD 9 (which they'd have within 12" of the lord anyway). - Salvage
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/02/11 19:18:34
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2015/02/11 21:36:54
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Dangerous Leadbelcher
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I second Boss Salvage's concerns. In addition:
I believe a palaquin means your lord gets no look out sir, and thus will die to the first (non-flaming) cannon he sees. Poison attacks enjoy rerolls to hit, you might consider the ASF granting sword or helm.
With only a single lvl 2 at 2500 points, you are going to have a rough time in enemy magic phases, unless your meta is similarly light on magic.
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2015/02/12 12:52:19
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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Also festus...because he should never be left out of a nurgle themed list and he is a bawss
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2015/02/12 15:18:13
Subject: Re:[2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Powerful Chaos Warrior
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Boss Salvage wrote:My concerns are with your characters and standards. Here we go!
CHAOS LORD: Palanquin is a mount, isn't it? So this guy's save is currently 0+, making the dragonhelm just a fire ward. Normally I would say swap it to a dragonbane gem ... except you should really be taking a dawnstone Easily paid for by dropping the d.helm and the vanguards on the warhounds.
CHAOS SORCERER: What lore are you using? And any chance you could get the ruby ring somewhere in the army? On this guy or elsewise. Two spells doesn't make for a very ferocious casting phase, and a magic missile will also add to whatever lore you choose (Death and Nurgle not being high in MM).
STANDARDS: Where are your characters going? Lord in the flaming warriors (6-wide), BSB in the fast warriors (7-wide)? I would really recommend not lighting one of your two kill units on fire, especially if it means your lord's S7 great weapon is flaming too. Flaming wards are a real pisser, and you will absolutely run into combat characters running them to screw over setups just like yours. And anyway, you have the flaming BSB ready to pop a wound in before his buddies wreck regenerating house - it's also easier to hop a single model around and catch regen bastards than it is maneuver an entire unit of warriors against that one target (that absolutely knows the warriors want to fight them). Instead, I would swap the banner of eternal flame for the standard of discipline from the knights. This kicks your lord up to LD 10 (and hence everyone within 12" , which is more useful than giving the knights LD 9 (which they'd have within 12" of the lord anyway).
- Salvage
I second all this, Kooshlord and BAN's comments
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Alex 'Salior' Wheatley
- Warriors of Chaos / Savage Ogres
- Most VP - Eatbats 2014
- 2nd - Bunker Brawl 2014
- 3rd - Blood on the Sands 2013
'A proper Imperial Guard regiment should have enough men to build a starport from corpses, if need be.'
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2015/02/12 19:44:47
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
Reading, England
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Always a fan of the razor standard in a unit or on BSB. With warriors that is a -2 to armour off the bat. I run a unit of 30 Warriors with BSB to this effect and it makes people wince.
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Bruins fan till the end.
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2015/02/12 22:30:41
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Drakhun
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Azza007 wrote:Always a fan of the razor standard in a unit or on BSB. With warriors that is a -2 to armour off the bat. I run a unit of 30 Warriors with BSB to this effect and it makes people wince.
I wouldn't like it, too much risk of my Bsb declaring a challenge and getting his face beaten up. Chosen can take a 50pt banner though.
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Warmachine MKIII record 39W/0D/6L
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2015/02/13 21:36:50
Subject: Re:[2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Snivelling Workbot
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Seeing as how most of the issues are with my characters I did a little bit of editing.
Chaos Lord
MoN
Great Weapon
Dawnstone
Scaled Skin
Soulfeeder
Poisonous Slime
Palanquin
338 pts
I know he doesn't get a los but I don't often get to field him and the model I have is awesome
Chaos Sorcerer
MoN
Lv2
Dispel Scroll
Ruby Ring of Ruin
Barded Chaos Steed
221 pts
I stuck a ruby ring on him to give my Magic phase a little more oomph like suggested
Exalted Hero
MoN
BSB
Enchanted Shield
Ironcurse icon
Burning Body
165 pts
He's basically stayed the same I just swapped out the luck stone with an Ironcurse to give his unit a little extra protection from war machines
I also dropped the vanguard on the warhounds and swapped the flame banner for the discipline banner
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2015/02/14 16:12:33
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Dangerous Leadbelcher
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Ok, you've got an awesome palanquin model. think about charmed shield, 4+ ward, or anti fire ward if your meta features flaming cannons. Too much stuff bypasses armor these days.
Bsb gets Los, give him the re rollable armor.
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2015/02/14 17:21:11
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Snivelling Workbot
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kooshlord wrote:Ok, you've got an awesome palanquin model. think about charmed shield, 4+ ward, or anti fire ward if your meta features flaming cannons. Too much stuff bypasses armor these days.
Bsb gets Los, give him the re rollable armor.
So something like this
Chaos Lord
MoN
Great Weapon
Charmed Shield
Talisman of preservation
Poisonous Slime
Soulfeeder
Palanquin of Nurgle
343 pts
Exalted Hero
MoN
BSB
Scaled Skin
Dawnstone
Shield
193 pts
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2015/02/18 15:12:19
Subject: [2500] - Warriors of Chaos - A nurgle themed list
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Dangerous Leadbelcher
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Looks like a better defensive setup to me!
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