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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Okay so, I'm preparing a 1500 point list that is sort-of clan Skryre themed for a tournament in a couple of weeks. However, the theme of this tournament is basically "Tag Team Tourney." This means that we'll be paired up with another player at random, for an equal points value of 3000. I figured that, since Skaven aren't really the type to carry a 2v2, I would build a more supporting list. This is what I came up with, and some notes regarding why I put it in the list:

Lords*
x1 Grey Seer - Foul Pendant/Power Scroll

-Literally the only 2 reasons why a grey seer is in this list: (1) Some magic defense (+4 to dispel), and (2) Dreaded 13th. Depending on who I'm up against, Crack's Call/Whither/Plague would be nice pick ups as well. Ward Save for potential miscasts, and Power Scroll for that one casting of Dreaded 13th on a 13+

Heroes*
x1 Chieftain - BSB/Enchanted shield
x1 Warlock Engineer - Level 1/Warp Energy Condenser/Doomrocket

-BSB = mandatory in a Skaven list. I believe that the tourney only allows one BSB to be "active" (meaning if both armies have a BSB, only one will provide re-rolls), but I had to be safe rather than sorry. Enchanted shield on him since I didn't know what else to spend 10 points on, and a 3+ is okay protection.
-Warlock Engineer for the extra channels, doomrocket, and re-directing shaningans if necessary (since, if he sees combat anyways, he will most likely be targeted and die).

Core*
x45 Skavenslaves - musician
x46 Skavenslaves - musician
x30 Clanrats =- standard/musician/shields
*x1 Warpfire Thrower
x1 Giant Rat Pack (5 Giant Rats + 1 Packmaster)
x1 Giant Rat Pack (5 Giant Rats + 1 Packmaster)

-Skavenslaves for tarpits, Giant Rat Packs for re-directing, wizard hunting, or war machine hunting (although the gutter runners should be able to handle that).
-Clanrats for a bunker for the grey seer and BSB. My hopes are that it never sees combat, so I'll be very passive with it. Warpfire Thrower to stick with Clan Skryre theme, and it handles multi-wound models pretty well.

Special*
x6 Gutter Runners - poison/slings
x6 Gutter Runners - poison/slings

-Warmachine hunters. 2 units may be a little overkill, but remember that it will be a 2v2 with 3000 points on each side.. I have to expect a ton of artillery fire.

Rare*
x1 Doomwheel
x1 Warp Lightning Cannon
x1 Warp Lightning Cannon

-Doomwheel for monster hunting and flanking. I try to never get in combat with it initially, unless (for example) a unit of slaves have tar-pitted something. Lightning bolts are nice
-Cannons for killing monsters/big things in general. Protecting these guys against fast calvary + flying units is hard.

I tested this list with WoC as my allies against Dwarves and Empire... And it was just awful for the opponent.
-The Gutter Runners scouted and destroyed 2 cannons turn 1, and killed the remaining organ gun turn 2.
-The Warp Lightning Cannons dealt 8 wounds to a steam tank turn 1, and finished it off turn 2.
-Grey Seer Plagued + Dreaded 13th a full unit of 30 halberdiers that included a warrior priest + captain BSB.
-Doomrocket direct hit and killed off 19 hammerers.

It was even worse because WoC didn't really do much but have a demon prince hold up 20 thunderers for most of the game.. Which basically means my 1500 points held off 3000 points of Empire+Dwarves.
With such good luck, it was hard to really see the effectiveness of this list. I'd love to get some input and constructive criticism on it. Thanks a lot.

EDIT: My allies for the tournament will be Empire with the following list:

1500 Empire

Lords*
x1 Grand Master -6+ ward/RuneFang

Heroes*
x1 Captain Empire - BSB
x1 Battle Wizard - level 2/dispel scroll/ironcurse icon

Core*
x11 Inner Circle Knights - musician/standard
x10 Handgunners - musician
x10 Handgunners
x25 Halberdiers - standard/musician

Special*
x1 Great Cannon

Rare*
x1 Steam Tank

He's basically the damage-dealing side of the army. My objective is to support and take the hits basically.

This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2015/02/13 04:37:38


 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




No criticism? Huh, didn't know my list was so great.
   
Made in au
Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch





Why no dispel scroll on your engineer instead of the WEC?

Changing the Enchanted Shield for a normal shield and the Dragon Helm gets you a 2+ ward vs flaming for the cost of a single slave.

I'd also be thinking about exchanging 8 slaves for either the Talisman of protection instead of the foul pendant on your Seer or getting the Obsidian trinket on your Warplock Engineer for magic defense, depending on how much Death magic you see in your meta.

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Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Death magic sees play a couple of times, but the lores of shadow and life seem to be the main contenders here. However, taking that into consideration, I including the Obsidian Amulet anyways and ended up with this:

1500 Skaven

Lords*
x1 Grey Seer - 4+ ward/Power Scroll (320)

Heroes*
x1 Chieftain - BSB/Obsidian Amulet/shield/dragonhelm (112)
x1 Warlock Engineer - Level 1/Dispel Scroll (95)
x1 Warlock Engineer - Doomrocket (45)

Core*
x45 Skavenslaves - musician (92)
x45 Skavenslaves - musician (92)
x30 Clanrats - shields/standard/musician (147)
*x1 Poisoned Wind Mortar (65)
x1 Giant Rat Pack (23)
x1 Giant Rat Pack (23)

Special*
x8 Gutter Runners - slings/poison (144)


Rare*
x1 Hell Pit Abomination - Warpstone Spikes (250)
x1 Warp Lightning Cannon (90)

Total: 1499

The only problem I have with this is that I feel like I have way too many points spent in characters. The 4 characters only total over 1/3 of my army. However I have a lot more defense on my characters (Especially the Grey Seer with a 4+ ward normally and a 2+ ward against magic).
Also, due to me not having my second cannon painted in time by the tournament, I decided to switch out the Doomwheel and my un-painted cannon with a Hell Pit, especially since I felt that one hammer unit was a little necessary.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/02/14 23:00:15


 
   
 
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