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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





so decided to a pionier Kompanie from Bridge by Bridge. not sure about the security Platoon. just not sure what to do with the 80 points as i want an even number of platoons.

Pionier Kompanie HQ (180)
Company HQ
- Replace Command SMG Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
2 MG42 HMG
2 8cm GW34

Pionier Platoon (265)
HQ Section
3 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply Horse-Drawn Wagon

Pionier Platoon (265)
HQ Section
3 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply Horse-Drawn Wagon

Pionier Platoon (195)
HQ Section
2 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team

Schwere Panzerjager Platoon (380)
Command StuG G
3 StuG G

Security Platoon (70)
HQ Section
3 Security Sections

Divisonal Anti-Tank Gun Platoon (210)
HQ Section
4 7.5cm PaK40
Kfz 15 Field Car, 4 3-Ton Trucks

Grenadier Artillery Battery (220)
HQ Section
2 Gun Sections
5 3-Ton Trucks

Divisional Anti-Aircraft Gun Platoon (105)
HQ Section
3 3.7cm FlaK43
Kfz 15 Field Car, 3 3-Ton Trucks

TOTAL
1890

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/02/13 20:30:51


Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. 
   
Made in gb
1st Lieutenant







Any option for recon?

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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





nope just some weird AA options or the security platoon.

Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. 
   
Made in gb
1st Lieutenant







I'm going to suggest looking at the HG panzer pioneer in 'fortress italy'

You get rerolls to morale which helps, and the list I did was

Hq with 2 fausts
2 schreks
2 mortars
2 HMG's

2 pioneer platoons, Faust + truck
4 StuG's/stuh42
4 Pak 40
2 8rad
4 10.5 artillery
3 flak38's

Has all your list does pretty much but less rubbish (security platoon)
And with recce + stuh42 can assault

My FOW Blog
http://breakthroughassault.blogspot.co.uk/

My Eldar project log (26/7/13)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5518969#post5518969

Exiles forum
http://exilesbbleague.phpbb4ever.com/index.php 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





if i go Panzerpionier i prefer this Grey wolf List. only problem is finding some Sd Kfz 7 to convert as i don't want to waste my FlaK43's. oh and finding a cheap supplier of Kfz 70 trucks. as battle front resin ones would bankrupt me. but i like the panzerpionier list from bridge by bridge even if it does lack recon. i'm defending with it mostly as armour or mech seems to be rather common around my way. so my oponent is mostly moving anyway.

Panzer Pionier Company HQ (210)
- CinC SMG, 2iC SMG, Kfz 15 field car, Motorcycle and sidecar
- Upgrade CinC SMG to CinC Panzerfaust SMG
- Upgrade 2iC SMG to 2iC Panzerfaust SMG
- 2x MG42 HMG, or 2x Kfz 70 truck
- 2x 8cm GW34 mortar, 2x Kfz 70 truck
- Panzerschrek , Kfz 70 truck

Compulsory PanzerPionier Platoon (240)
- Command Pioneer Rifle/MG, 6x Pioneer Rifle/MG, Kfz 15 field car, 3x Kfz 70 truck
- Replace Command Pioneer Rifle with Command Pioneer Panzerfaust SMG
- Pioneer Supply 3-ton truck

Compulsory PanzerPionier Platoon (240)
- Command Pioneer Rifle/MG, 6x Pioneer Rifle/MG, Kfz 15 field car, 3x Kfz 70 truck
- Replace Command Pioneer Rifle with Command Pioneer Panzerfaust SMG
- Pioneer Supply 3-ton truck

Panzer Platoon (380)
- Command StuG G or StuG IV, 3x StuG G or StuG IV

Anti-tank Gun Platoon (210)
- Command SMG, 4x 7.5cm PaK40 gun
- Kfz 15 field car, 3-ton truck per gun

Light Panzerspah Platoon (190)
- 2x Command Sd Kfz 223 (Radio), 4x Sd Kfz 222 (2cm)

Armoured Artillery Battery (235)
- Command SMG, Staff, Kfz 15 field car, Kfz 68 radio truck, Observer Rifle, Sd Kfz 250 half-track, 3x Wespe

Anti-aircraft Gun Platoon (140)
- Command Sd Kfz 7/2 (3.7cm), 2x Sd Kfz 7/2 (3.7cm)

Total 1875
Platoons 8

Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. 
   
Made in gb
1st Lieutenant







Use the 43's as 38's.

Wespes are far too overcosted for what they deliver IMHO.

I only use one platoons trucks, all you ever need as its so rare for both to be moving.

My FOW Blog
http://breakthroughassault.blogspot.co.uk/

My Eldar project log (26/7/13)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5518969#post5518969

Exiles forum
http://exilesbbleague.phpbb4ever.com/index.php 
   
Made in gb
1st Lieutenant







Was toying around with this more, and thinkbi'll a very viable list. On defense you have the two pioneer carts, + lots of AT4 infantry backed up by panzerschreks and PaK 40's. On attack you have smoke, flamethrowers and breakthroygh guns - not to mention almost every platoon rerolls morale checks as does company morale too

HG panzer pioneers
HQ + 1 Faust
2 Panzerschrek
2 HMG
2 platoons of 7 stand pioneers + carts
4 stuh42
4 PAk 40
2 8 rad
4 10.5 artillery
3 15 Nebs
2 flak 38

My FOW Blog
http://breakthroughassault.blogspot.co.uk/

My Eldar project log (26/7/13)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5518969#post5518969

Exiles forum
http://exilesbbleague.phpbb4ever.com/index.php 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





after a bit of thinking I've done some messing about and my list now has some Fallschirmjager instead of the security platoon. i've got them in by shrinking the two big pioneer platoons and moveing the supply vehicles around. so one platoon has a goliath the other two have supply RSO's. so i have two assault platoons in the Fj and the goliath platoon and two defencive platoons in the two supply RSO platoons. and yes i still lack recon but i prefer the pionier's to the panzerpioniers.

Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. 
   
Made in gb
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so whats your list in total now?

My FOW Blog
http://breakthroughassault.blogspot.co.uk/

My Eldar project log (26/7/13)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5518969#post5518969

Exiles forum
http://exilesbbleague.phpbb4ever.com/index.php 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Pionier Kompanie HQ (180)
Company HQ
- Replace Command SMG Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
2 MG42 HMG
2 8cm GW34

Pionier Platoon (205)
HQ Section
2 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Goliath

Pionier Platoon (200)
HQ Section
2 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply RSO

Pionier Platoon (200)
HQ Section
2 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply RSO

Schwere Panzerjager Platoon (380)
Command StuG G
3 StuG G

Fallschirmjager Platoon (195)
HQ Section
2 Fallschirmjager Squads

Divisonal Anti-Tank Gun Platoon (210)
HQ Section
4 7.5cm PaK40
Kfz 15 Field Car, 4 3-Ton Trucks

Grenadier Artillery Battery (220)
HQ Section
2 Gun Sections
5 3-Ton Trucks

Divisional Anti-Aircraft Gun Platoon (105)
HQ Section
3 3.7cm FlaK43
Kfz 15 Field Car, 3 3-Ton Trucks

TOTAL
1895

the two rso platoons get the weapons from the company HQ, while the goliath platoon takes two flame throwers and acts as an assault force with the stug's and FJ

Only the Insane have strength enough to prosper, Only those who prosper may truly judge what is sane. 
   
Made in gb
1st Lieutenant







I think only having short platoons is going to cause you problems, only 5 stands is very vulnerable to assault.

If you're in a mission where you defend with only half your platoons you'll be able to get all your support, but you won't have enough infantry to keep them safe.

My FOW Blog
http://breakthroughassault.blogspot.co.uk/

My Eldar project log (26/7/13)
http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=5518969#post5518969

Exiles forum
http://exilesbbleague.phpbb4ever.com/index.php 
   
Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Pionier Kompanie HQ (180)
Company HQ
- Replace Command SMG Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
2 MG42 HMG
2 8cm GW34

Pionier Platoon (275)
HQ Section
3 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Goliath

Pionier Platoon (200)
HQ Section
3 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply wagon

Pionier Platoon (200)
HQ Section
2 Pioneer Squads
- Replace Command Rifle Team with Command Panzerfaust SMG Team
Supply wagon

Schwere Panzerjager Platoon (285)
Command StuG G
2 StuG G

Fallschirmjager Platoon (285)
HQ Section
3 Fallschirmjager Squads

Divisonal Anti-Tank Gun Platoon (160)
HQ Section
3 7.5cm PaK40
Kfz 15 Field Car, 3 3-Ton Trucks

Grenadier Artillery Battery (220)
HQ Section
2 Gun Sections
5 3-Ton Trucks

Divisional Anti-Aircraft Gun Platoon (105)
HQ Section
3 3.7cm FlaK43
Kfz 15 Field Car, 3 3-Ton Trucks

TOTAL
1900

your right my assault platoons where a little small so done some rejigging. oh the advantage of not having finished buying and building my force. going to leave this list like this i think as i really need to start building and painting it. basic plan for use is the two big platoons are my assault platoons and start in reserve with the stug's and either the Pak40's or the AA depending on my foe. the rest digs in on the table as my defensive force.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/02/19 11:01:18


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