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Okay so I've been working on an army list for quite a while now. FYI I am not a fan of vehicles so try to stick to mostly troops and I don't know about kaptain badrukk or the flashgitz I haven't played with them but anyway heres what i've got. (I now the nobz are overpowered, but they work very well for me).
-1x, Ork Warboss; Power Claw; ‘eavy armor=104 points
-1x, Kaptain Badrukk; 3x ammo runts=119 points
-10x, Nobz; 3x Power claw; 5x Big Choppa, 1x WAAAGH Banner, 2x Slugga and Choppa, 10x ‘eavy armor; 1x ammo runt=353 points
-5x, Flash Gitz; 1x ammo runt; 5x Snazz gunz=113 points
-19x, Grots; 1x Runtherd; One Squig hound=72 points
-29x, Ork Boyz-1x Nobz+Bosspole+Power Claw=222 points
-29x, Ork Boyz-1x Nobz+Bosspole+Power Claw=222 points
-1x, Ork Battlewagon; Ram; Lobba cannon; 4x Big Shootas=135 points
-9x, Loota’s=135 points
Total: 1,476
Also where can I get 'eavy armor for my orks?? Or do I just tell my opponent that those units have it???
Cheers, C66

Okay, here goes:
If you like walking rather than vehicles, make sure you take the Ork Warband formation. Then, you can waaagh every turn after the first. Not too shabby.
The battlewagon: what is it for? IOn this list, I guarentee its going to die on your opponents first turn, every time. At 1500 point, there will be plenty of anti-armor weapons around, and since its the only viable vehicle, its going to get singled out and popped. Orks thrive on consistency: mix n match doesnt do super great for them, with minor exceptions.
The warboss should definitely be taking DLS, that rerolling saves, attacks, and wounds is amazing, and +1 WS for his whole blob is worth every point.

Honestly, it looks like you fell for the age-old trap of choosing toys over boys.

Eavy armor is acquired by gluing on any spare shouldr pads and whatever other junk you can onto your guys. As long as they look 'arder than the average guy, it should work. I would reccommend announcing it though if you opponent asks though.

eavy armor on boyz is a waste honestly. you might want to scale back a few other things and get 12 lootas in that battlewagon. i think the rule is they can go 6inchs and fire at full BS and then going 12 they still fire snapshots.

So I should drop the battlewagon?? Also do you think captain badrukk and the flash gitz would work with this list?

You can make it a mobile strong point with lots of fire power

 Ghazkuul wrote:
eavy armor on boyz is a waste honestly. you might want to scale back a few other things and get 12 lootas in that battlewagon. i think the rule is they can go 6inchs and fire at full BS and then going 12 they still fire snapshots.

Not quite. If the vehicle moves combat speed, the models firing out of it count as having moved. Though, sometimes people bring a big mek in MA to give them SnP, so that you can still move at fire full BS (at a 2, wooo!). Moving over 6" will make all units fire snap shots. Though, tbh, with the difference it makes, might be nice to use it to blitz forward. And remember that if you do put a MA hq in with the lootas, they can fire and assault. Though no overwatch.


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 Ghazkuul wrote:
eavy armor on boyz is a waste honestly. you might want to scale back a few other things and get 12 lootas in that battlewagon. i think the rule is they can go 6inchs and fire at full BS and then going 12 they still fire snapshots.

Not quite. If the vehicle moves combat speed, the models firing out of it count as having moved. Though, sometimes people bring a big mek in MA to give them SnP, so that you can still move at fire full BS (at a 2, wooo!). Moving over 6" will make all units fire snap shots. Though, tbh, with the difference it makes, might be nice to use it to blitz forward. And remember that if you do put a MA hq in with the lootas, they can fire and assault. Though no overwatch.

I do concur about 'eavy on the regular boys though.

I'm putting heavy armor on the nobs not the boyz

So what should I drop the battlewagon for then??

Moar Boyz. Always for more Boyz.

If I were you I'd scale back the Nobz unit. There's not really anything a 10 man unit of nobz with 3 klaws can do that a 5 man unit with 3 klaws can't. I'd bump them back to a unit with 3 klaws, 2 big choppas, a bosspole on the big nob, and a waaagh banner. Right now as they are, assuming they are footslogging, they have a massive bullseye painted on their back, That unit is more than 20% of your points, and I can guarantee it won't pull its weight. Halve the unit, or split it into two units with 2 klaws + 3 big choppas each.

The biggest thing, I find, when it comes to building ork army lists is that every time you spend points on something, consider how many boyz you could get for the same cost, and evaluate if its worth it.

But yeah, I run 60 boyz in a hybrid footslog + outflank trukk list mostly as a distraction until the trukks arrive, but in a pure footslog you're gonna want more than a hundred, easily.

I'd drop the wagon as evveryone else is suggesting, and honestly I wouldn't take badrukk either. You'd be better off with a Painboy for one of your blobs, or another Warboss to dish out pain and keep morale up.

Lootas are fine in the list, I've never had luck with them but your mileage may vary. The grots should be split into two min units no upgrades if you have enough points after buying more boyz. March them in front of the boyz in a congo line to give them 5+ cover, eat overwatch, and eat charges so boyz can countercharge and get FC bonus.

Eavy armour wise just start tossing bitz on em like extra shoulder pads, metal jaws, etc.. The more orky the better!!!

Models with Assault weapons can still ride 6 inches and fire full ballistic.

Lootas have heavy which makes them snapshot with any movement. Typically, snapshots aren't a big deal with Lootas, either you roll one shot and t your shooting sucks or you roll 3 shots and overkill it.

Your Nobz are too expensive. Consider losing all five big choppas and maybe drop the banner -or- the third klaw. At 350 points you could have 9 meganobz

For you to run nobz or flash gitz at the heart of your army you have to supply more targets for Str 8 fire. Kanz, and also boyz with attached painboy are good ways to do this. I won't pretend it's competitive though.

My problem with Badrukk, is he only has 2 wounds, and will likely kill himself with his plasma gun.

Flashgitz I love though.

The only way I'd take Badrukk is in his formation that gives Flashgitz Mastercrafted Snazzguns.

I am also not a fan of nobs. They are expensive and hard to make work right. I prefer mega nobz in almost any situation. In groups of 3 with killsaws is my preference, but I'm not going to twist your arm since they require vehicles.

I also prefer my warboss on a bike or in mega armor. MA gives him 2+ armor, which most of the time is beneficial. Unfortunately you still are instantly killed by anything str 10. But a bike gives you heavy armor a 4+ cover save and you can only be instantly killed by weapons with the instant death special rule since they are toughness 6.

I notice you don't have much anti armor unless you are thinking the lootas and power klaws are enough.

Just giving you things to think about

So I should split my grot unit into two seperate units. I should drop the battle wagon for more boyz. Drop badrukk for a painboy. And I will split the nob unit with 2 PKs and 3 Big choppas in each of the two units and I will drop the waaagh banner, all extra points should go to more boyz. Do you guys agree with this??

If youre footsloggin bring 80+ boys at least. Support units like mek guns and lootas go well with this kind of list too. Let them target units that fire pie plates and you might get half your boyz to krump city if youre lucky.

Here is my new and revised list based on the information you have given me:
1 Ork warboss; Power Klaw; 'eavy armor= 104 points
1 Painboy; with attack squig= 65 points
5 Nobz; 2x Power Klaw; 3x Big Choppa= 175 points
5 Nobz; 2x Power Klaw; 3x Big Choppa= 175 points
5 Flash gitz; 1x ammo runt; 5x snazz gunz= 113 points
10 grots; 1 Rutherd= 40 points
10 grots; 1 Rutherd= 40 points
29 boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 222 points
29 boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 222 points
25 boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 198 points
9 Lootas= 135 points
Total Points= 1489
That gives me 11 extra points to apply elsewhere. What do you guys think???
Thanks, Cheers C66

its always been my view that you only need 1 Pk in a small unit, If you ditch the nobz weapon upgrades except 1 Pk you have a lot of extra points to give your Nobz Eavy armor and getting more boyz.

Ditch the flash gitz completely, you wont get anything out of them in a foot slog list like this. use the saved points to get a Lucky Stik on your warboss and maybe give him a bike instead of eavy armor, remember you can attach a character with a bike to any unit.

Sorry about the 'eavy armor on the nobz my bad I counted in the points for the 'eavy armor but forgot to say that they had it. Anyway heres another list, (sadly I can't afford to get the warboss on the bike, due to my own budget) Also I gave this list an extra 70 points for you guys to work with as you see fit.
- 1 Ork warboss; PK; 'eavy armor= 129 points
- 1 Painboy w/ attack squig= 65 points
- 5 Nobz; 2x PK; 3x Big choppa, 5x 'eavy armor= 175 points
- 5 Nobz; 2x PK; 3x Big choppa; 5x 'eavy armor= 175 points
- 10 Grots; 1 Rutherd= 40 points
- 10 Grots; 1 Rutherd= 40 points
- 29 Boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 222 points
- 29 Boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 222 points
- 29 Boyz; Nob w/ PK+BP= 222 points
- 10 Lootas= 140 points
Total Points= 1430

Thanks, Cheers C66

One list, two threads?

After awhile people loose interest in old threads,and move on to new ones. So I kind of renewed my older thread.

Thats true. At least wait for one of them to die totally, so it isn't necro'd up to the top. Otherwise, theres a slightly embarassing echo effect ;p.

I'll stay with the other one from now.

Lol sorry about that