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So heres a list im going to try, avoiding WK and scatterbikes but im keen to use new dex's opptunities

Biel Tan 1500

Combined Arms Detachment

Spiritseer 70

12 Guardian defenders 108

3 windriders 51

Fire prism 125

War walkers x3 180
Scatter lasers 0


Crimson Death

3 Crimson Hunters 420
Exarch 10

Aspect Host (+1 ws)

6 Shining Spears 150
Exarch 10
Star Lance 10

10 Striking scorpions 170
Exarch 10
Scorpions claw 30
Biting blade 5

10 Howling Banshees ( using my now defunct harlequins) 130
Exarch 10
Executioner 10


may change guardians and SS for farseer on bike & windriders but i love the models...

im aware its not "top tier" but i want to try a different tack

1) surely you don't want biting blade and claw?

2) surely 3 crimson hunters is too many

3) how you going to use the banshees?

Other than that for a fun list it will be entertaining.. i should imagine the shining spears will be fun

Crimson hunter exarch is +20.

I'd consider dropping to 2 and forgoeing the formation, might be a touch overkill for 1500.

Possibly throw an autarch in with the spears with a mask+lance. Mask will stop overwatch.

Ah my bad! +20 for exarch then

Well both weapons on the scorpion exarch was because I had a spare 5 so I thought well why not.

Hmm I see your point on the 3 crimson hunters, perhaps I will drop to 2, I was interested in the formation and obviously they will provide the main part of my AT punch, autarch with banshee mask though is a fantastic idea. Think I might do that!


In regards to the banshees, I was considering either using the increased movement they have to hop between cover, which probably wont end well, or fish for invis with the spiritseer and join him to them, or go for the safe conceal at least. Obviously he slows them down though :/

Bobug wrote:
Ah my bad! +20 for exarch then

Well both weapons on the scorpion exarch was because I had a spare 5 so I thought well why not.

Hmm I see your point on the 3 crimson hunters, perhaps I will drop to 2, I was interested in the formation and obviously they will provide the main part of my AT punch, autarch with banshee mask though is a fantastic idea. Think I might do that!


In regards to the banshees, I was considering either using the increased movement they have to hop between cover, which probably wont end well, or fish for invis with the spiritseer and join him to them, or go for the safe conceal at least. Obviously he slows them down though :/

Spiritseer will slow the the Banshees down as I assume the extra movement is not transferred.

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