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2015/05/06 22:19:04
Subject: D3negra
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Soooo glad I picked Cryx. Sweet model.
From NQ 60
She can take souls from models in her command range and put them on herself.
She can spend 1 soul to cast a cost 3 spell for free.
She can spend 1 soul to allocate 3 focus to a jack for free in her command range.
Def stats are same as stryker3/gaspy1.
Confirmed spells; gravewind, mortality, scourge, ghost walk
Feat is indeed she gains 7 souls. There doesn't seem to be a limit on how many times she can use the cast/allocate for souls abilities.. so yeah.
Focus stat is denny's usual.
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2015/05/06 22:24:10
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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She gets Lola to the face.
No, seriously.
Sweet model.... But gawd, I despise Denny! So awesome though!
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2015/05/06 22:26:44
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Deadnight wrote:She gets Lola to the face.
No, seriously.
Sweet model.... But gawd, I despise Denny! So awesome though!
If I buy her when she comes out, with the AIO I'll be ordering, my three Cryx casters I'll own will be Denny 1, 2 and 3
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2015/05/07 07:45:17
Subject: D3negra
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Satyxis Raider
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Feat for 7 souls that she can use to either cast a spell or fill up a warjack?
I think we are missing something, that seems way too powerful.
But hey, so far I like it. Denny is my favorite caster.
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2015/05/07 07:57:34
Subject: D3negra
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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Wow that is powerful if true!
I'm guessing she's lost stealth with her increased base size?
How many focus does she have I wonder 7 like normal?
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2015/05/07 11:48:43
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Abel
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She is a sweet looking model. I hope those wings are resin, or it's gonna be a pretty janky model.
Solid spell list, and her abilities sound great. Her biggest weakness? A Huge Based caster using Battle Engine rules. NOT a very good combo.
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2015/05/07 12:02:08
Subject: D3negra
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Drakhun
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I want to beat her in the face with Lola so badly.
I wonder if she will have stealth, I highly doubt it but it would be hilarious.
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2015/05/07 13:44:29
Subject: D3negra
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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With a huge base she'll be shot to bits I imagine
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2015/05/07 18:36:17
Subject: D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Mordekiem wrote:Feat for 7 souls that she can use to either cast a spell or fill up a warjack?
I think we are missing something, that seems way too powerful.
But hey, so far I like it. Denny is my favorite caster.
I think it will be she can only do one of each thing per turn. IE: Once per turn, she can spend 1 soul to give 1 jack 3 Focus. Once per turn, she can cast 1 cost3 or less spell for 1 soul. etc...
But hey, its Denegra. Who knows.
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2015/05/07 18:38:36
Subject: D3negra
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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That doesn't really go with the feat. What good would 7 souls be if you can't use them? :S
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
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2015/05/07 18:43:21
Subject: Re:D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Maybe she can do something else with the souls. Or its meant for her to sit on some, or maybe it gives her options if she's playing someone who denies soul collection, etc...
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/05/07 18:52:34
Subject: D3negra
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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I can imagine them putting a limit of one use of soul per spell per round. So you could cast all your spells but not more than once.
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
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2015/05/07 18:55:45
Subject: D3negra
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Cosmic Joe
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Wow! That is stunning.
I wish I played Cryx.
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2015/05/07 19:47:23
Subject: D3negra
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Purged Thrall
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From the battle report, i think she might have used souls once to boost as well. Can't remember.
As to her survivability, I think with access to souls she can camp pretty well, and under grave wind she's defense 17 with poltergeist. Unless you have a way to move again (energizer, side step, etc) you miss her and you're out of melee.
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2015/05/07 20:45:14
Subject: D3negra
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Not as Good as a Minion
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She regularly was sitting on something like 17/19 during the battle report, so pretty solid stats defensively, and she cast Mortality twice in a turn, but I can't remember if she used souls both times or if she used focus once and souls the other.
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2015/05/07 22:07:27
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Grey Templar wrote:Maybe she can do something else with the souls. Or its meant for her to sit on some, or maybe it gives her options if she's playing someone who denies soul collection, etc...
She can definitely use the ability to cast spells with a soul more than once per turn, its not clear if the load up a jack ability has any kind of restrictions. Worse case scenario she still has Cull Soul, so she still gets a 14 focus turn next turn.
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2015/05/08 03:39:08
Subject: D3negra
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Will be getting that model ! I love it.
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2015/05/08 14:39:53
Subject: D3negra
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Abel
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novaspike wrote:From the battle report, i think she might have used souls once to boost as well. Can't remember.
As to her survivability, I think with access to souls she can camp pretty well, and under grave wind she's defense 17 with poltergeist. Unless you have a way to move again (energizer, side step, etc) you miss her and you're out of melee.
Go look at 3Lylyth (the Legion warlock on a huge base). She can get a stupid high defense and armor as well, and she can transfer damage, and she has windwall! It doesn't help her any at all. The main way to deal with her is by shooting her.
While Warmachine/Hordes is a melee game, shooting is a viable component, and if you play a shooting army, then you make sure those shots count. There are a ton of ways around DEF and ARM buffs these days, and having a huge based battle engine warcaster... she will never get a + DEF for cover, concealment, or elevation, nothing really blocks line of sight to her, she will have an arc for attacking... sure, she can't be knocked down, slammed, pushed, thrown or made stationary... but those advantages just aren't enough compared to the disadvantages. Who knows? Maybe PP has really been watching 3Lyyth and has made enough adjustments to D3negra to make her a powerful warcaster?
She will probably be a solid, mid tier warcaster that won't show up in too many Steamroller lists considering how good some of the other Cryx casters are (Denny2, eGaspy).
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2015/05/08 15:50:16
Subject: D3negra
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Nihilistic Necron Lord
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I already know what I want to do for a conversion for her, just need to see if I can find the right size/shape of wings.
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2015/05/08 15:53:37
Subject: D3negra
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Infiltrating Broodlord
The Faye
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The mount kind of looks like Terminus. Do you think Gaspy took him down and used his left overs, like Daemortus ?
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We love what we love. Reason does not enter into it. In many ways, unwise love is the truest love. Anyone can love a thing because. That's as easy as putting a penny in your pocket. But to love something despite. To know the flaws and love them too. That is rare and pure and perfect.
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2015/05/08 20:11:08
Subject: D3negra
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Hacking Shang Jí
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Love it!
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2015/05/08 20:15:01
Subject: D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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obsidianaura wrote:The mount kind of looks like Terminus. Do you think Gaspy took him down and used his left overs, like Daemortus ?
Given that Terminus is suffering from a bad case of "Stryker to the Face" at the moment he doesn't have a body to loot right now. Certainly not the one his rules currently portray.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/05/08 21:51:13
Subject: D3negra
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Purged Thrall
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I totally understand trying to keep huge bases alive. I've been on a skorne kick with eXerxis, both with and without a krea.
Denny does have the advantage of cheap arc nodes and fast troops to keep her back from the action. I feel like the inflictor needs to actually get a model to go with her, but a bokur isn't a bad substitute in the mean time.
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2015/05/13 11:07:20
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Drakhun
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Was checking out the PP forums and I've seen this as well.
The Horror, the Horror.........
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2015/05/13 15:08:03
Subject: Re:D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Oddly enough, her rules are actually pretty balanced.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/05/13 15:10:34
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Has there been any more spoilers other than the ones from the NQ battle report?
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2015/05/13 15:12:13
Subject: Re:D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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No, but going off of experience that should be about 90% of her rules accounted for.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/05/13 15:17:51
Subject: Re:D3negra
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Tea-Kettle of Blood
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Grey Templar wrote:No, but going off of experience that should be about 90% of her rules accounted for. So you think that Haley only has 4 spells? That is pretty unprecedented for an 8 FOC caster.
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2015/05/13 15:21:26
Subject: Re:D3negra
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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She might have 1-2 more spells, or its balanced out by her secondary versions have 4 spells between them that she can also potentially cast.
Remember she's effectively only got 4 focus to play with if she "upkeeps" her past and future versions.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2015/05/13 15:26:16
Subject: D3negra
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Drakhun
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From what I've heard, each of the other Haley's also has four focus. And on her feat turn each Haley gets plus 2 focus. It's much nicer than Haley2's feat. And present Haley can cast a spell that past and future Haley have already cast.
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