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Images of the purported plastic sprues:
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And some rumors:
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Warhams-77 wrote: Wintermute (Warseer Admin) posted tonight about the HH game
Originally Posted by RTB01
is there any other info you can give us at this time
Originally Posted by Wintermute
Yes there is.
According to my sources: the rules are not 8th Ed and they haven't been Sigmared/simplified. The major difference is that the 'read this first' sections and the reference cards have simple to follow tables. For example the BS rule instead of being the traditional 'BS3 =4+' style in fact has the BS as '4+'. All other rules are as per 7th edition which will also be in the box.
This may be one of the deals we’ve ever heard of from Games Workshop.
I hope this turns out to be true, cause WOW I don’t think finding Heresy players will be hard if getting the miniatures is this easy!
via Voices in the Trees 3-8-2015
Horus Heresy Starter Set
2 sides, Identically Equipped
Models are NOT legion marked.
Generic Heresy-era models.
– Early Heresy mark armor Astartes x20
– Cataphractii Terminators x5
– Contemptor Dreadnought x1
– Praetor x1
These contents seem to line up with the last set of rumors we heard back in FEB.
via Steve the Warboss 2-25-2015
-Gaming Set Includes a Supplement for the Age of Darkness
-Rules and a Dettachment for Playing Legio Astartes and Xenos in the Past of 40k -A new Allied Matrix including Xenos of the 31st Millenium
-Very generic Dataslates for the Models, only the featured Characters will have specific Background, but can used for any Legion
-Unlike the previous Sets, the Squads will have no unique Leaders, only names “Sergeant”
-Box will include 6 versions of new Sprues
Speculation about release date:
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Manchu wrote:October maybe? Warhammer World open house on October 18-17, with promise to unvail something:
We’re happy to announce that we will be releasing +++DELETED BY THE INQUISITION+++, which is really exciting!
Man I have been away from the geedub rumor mill in a long time (and this site heh!)
If I could get my grubby hands on a plastic MKIV set....sorry FW you can't take my monies! Now I admit I didn't read the last thread, but I thought geedubs and forgeworld wanted to stop stepping on each others toes? Well then again I guess whatever brings in the cash. maybe I'll get an official vx9 kit eventually.
I quite like that roll chart since theres barely any To Hit modifiers for bs. makes sense.
Contemptor Dreadnought Unknown model (conflicting reports say a “counter to Contemptor”, or simply a 2nd Contemptor)
Decal sheet for multiple legions, split evenly between Loyalist and Traitor Legions
If it's accurate... and in the same price point as AoS... I think 2 boxes for me. Maybe 3, if I like the Centurion, Praetor, and Contemptors enough (60 is plenty of Mk4 marines).
Ok off to airbrushing
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Contemptor Dreadnought
Unknown model (conflicting reports say a “counter to Contemptor”, or simply a 2nd Contemptor)
Decal sheet for multiple legions, split evenly between Loyalist and Traitor Legions
If it's accurate... and in the same price point as AoS... I think 2 boxes for me. Maybe 3, if I like the Centurion, Praetor, and Contemptors enough (60 is plenty of Mk4 marines).
Ok off to airbrushing
I really can't believe that. The sprues are not snapfit models and GW should give you 30 of those AND other stuff?
Even if it's true, I can't see a price below 150€.
That list seems to make a lot of sense even though it just seems like guesswork. I was hoping for some MKII Armour as well but I'm sure it will already be in the pipeline assuming this set is a success.
Curious to see what the price will be for this as it is seeming to be a pretty substantial set!
I suppose that one army is going to have a single Tactical Squad and the Contemptor and the other is going to have two Tactical Squads. So our two HQs are a Centurion in Artificer Armor and a Praetor in Terminator Armor. That is a pretty good division.
Honestly, I am still filing this in "Too Good To Be True". This would give someone the basis of a full Space Marine army. Unless this is going to be a $200+ set, this is way too good of a deal.
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Manchu wrote: If the figs are Legion-generic, buying multiple boxes is a no-brainer.
We can see from the images that the kits are not Legion specific.
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The box content rumours also come from the same source that said it was a Battle of Phall box with IF and IW, and that part's now been debunked by LoWG, so the contents are probably wrong too
Hanskrampf wrote: I really can't believe that. The sprues are not snapfit models and GW should give you 30 of those AND other stuff?
Even if it's true, I can't see a price below 150€.
They are not snapfit, but they come with few special/heavy weapon loadouts, so if you're buying them for just parts, yeah, you'll get a nice deal, but it's not like people were spending endless dollars on tactical marines with bolters.
If you take away the snapfit aspect, the model count is close to Space Hulk, which is one of the best-loved box sets GW's ever come out with. Soooo....
But frankly, I'd take them even if they were snapfit (though it would be far less awesome). The Dark Vengeance snapfits are fantastic.
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Rygnan wrote: The box content rumours also come from the same source that said it was a Battle of Phall box with IF and IW, and that part's now been debunked by LoWG, so the contents are probably wrong too
Yeah, no argument that rumors are rumors.
Still, we've seen the alleged 2 hero sprues, and the space marine sprues, so if it's just a hoax, it's a mighty fine hoax. And as to guesswork, yeah, it's probably a pretty reasonable guess. I mean, you could get 20 space marines instead of 30, but it's not like you'll get 10 to split between UM and WB.
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Wouldn't that be wonderful? In plastic.... *dreamy eyes*
Kinda goes against the whole not legion-specific thing, plus it's not even from one of the rumoured legions in the box.
Maybe it's an indication that they're going to start phasing the Legion-specific dreadnoughts? It was always ridiculous that we had as many contemptors as we did...
Perhaps they're retiring the legion-specific dreadnoughts once they run out of stock of them, to be replaced by a generic, plastic contemptornought that'll be supported by legion-specific upgrade kits. Doesn't seem that far-fetched, does it?
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casvalremdeikun wrote: We can see from the images that the kits are not Legion specific.
We cannot confirm the authenticity of those images.
I'm not sure I understand this.
Its pictures of what are quite clearly Heresy Era marines on plastic sprues. The cost of creating physical, hard plastic sprues of that nature are so vast that the idea there is the remotest possibility they are some sort of internet con is, I think, a non-starter.
And no other company is producing heresy era marines in hard plastic.
NoggintheNog wrote: Its pictures of what are quite clearly Heresy Era marines on plastic sprues.
And so far, that's all we actually know about them.
If they are legit (and there's a very good chance they are) we still have no actual confirmation as to what they are for, or who actually made them. Assuming (again, as is likely) that those pictures are GW sprues, there's been at least one plastic sprue produced in the past that was shown to the public but never actually made it into production (the original buildings for CoD) and there have been rumours over the years of other sprues that were produced but never made it to production due to various issues with them.
For all we know, these are just a limited run thing for some internal use at GWHQ, like the original Praetorians were. The expense of producing plastic sprues is nowhere near what it used to be, so that's not entirely outside the realm of possibility.
NoggintheNog wrote: The cost of creating physical, hard plastic sprues of that nature are so vast that the idea there is the remotest possibility they are some sort of internet con is, I think, a non-starter.
Unless of course the con in question is selling knock-off models, which is already profitable enough for certain Chinese companies to entice them to invest money in creating hard plastic sprues for things like Knights.
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NoggintheNog wrote: The cost of creating physical, hard plastic sprues of that nature are so vast that the idea there is the remotest possibility they are some sort of internet con is, I think, a non-starter.
Unless of course the con in question is selling knock-off models, which is already profitable enough for certain Chinese companies to entice them to invest money in creating hard plastic sprues for things like Knights.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but those pictures have been floating around for more than a month.
Wouldn't we see certain Chinese/Russian companies SELLING them by now?
kronk wrote: Wouldn't we see certain Chinese/Russian companies SELLING them by now?
I guess the same could be said about GW (see insaniak's post above). I would rather not get into a purely speculative discussion about the miniatures bootlegging trade. The point is, everyone is free to believe that these pics are authentic but no one can solidly claim they are without further proof. It's sort of like the poster above who says one rumormonger "debunked" another rumormonger. Well, the truth is both are just slinging rumors and that poster decided to believe one over another.
Kalashnichris wrote: I just looked up "Cataphractii Terminator Squad" images (wanted to check which style that was-not to familiar with hh stuff) on bing and it said " forgeworld.co.uk has removed or replaced this image"....
Did you check ForgeWorld? I guess not.
They're still available.
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More Dakka wrote: Excited, but my excitement is somewhat curtailed by the fact that it's MK IV armor and not MK VI :(
I don't think there was much chance of MkVI at all, at this point it's still pretty rare (almost non existent in legions that aren't the Raven Guard and Alpha Legion until the siege of Terra I believe).
Besides there's actually some Mark 6 stuff in normal 40k kits.
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There is also a Non-Termi HQ.
I bet there is a coms/medic/banner dude as well.
Maybe on a sprue we have not yet seen.
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