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So the preamble for this list is I only play casual with my friends, using the BAO Warhammer 40K Competitive Event Missions. Opposition consists of pretty much everything but Orks and Tau. The list is also my painting goal and the I want to include warbikes and killer kanz as I currently want to paint them the most. I also like having lots of units. Any suggestions or thoughts on the list would be appreciated. Oh and I don't have grots to pay the troop tax for CADs.

CAD 1

HQ
Warboss - Warbike, Klaw, Lucky Stikk

Troops
10x Boyz
10x Boyz

Elites
3x Mega Nobz - Trukk
3x Mega Nobz - Trukk

Fast Attack
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt

Heavy Support
2x Mek guns - Traktor, 2x ammo runtz
Killer Kan - Grotzooka
Killer Kan - Grotzooka

CAD 2

HQ
Painboy - Warbike

Troops
10x Boyz
10x Boyz

Fast Attack
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
5x Warbikes - Nob, Klaw

Heavy Support
2x Mek guns - KMK, 2x ammo runts

I am pretty sure I still have 8 points to play with. Extra grots for the Mek Gunz?

1) Are those squads of 10 boyz in trukks?

If not, kiss your MANZ trukks goodbye turn 1

2) Love the buggies huh? Maybe consider swapping 3 of them for a unit of Deffkoptas

Put the deffkoptas with your WB/PB and gain Scout + Hit & Run


3) KANZ!? Out of all the heavies you pick kanz?
You obviously have some sort of preference and thats cool man, but I'd put my points in almost anything else

Trukks w/ tank bustas since you're going trukk heavy (if #1 is correct)

4) No boss poles on anything? Very brave....

Calm down he said casual and all those choices besides not putting those boyz in trukks are perfectly alright.

You know its odd, I have not really had an issue of my trukks blowing up first turn and I only own 4. Dunno, prolly luck I guess. I usually try to get cover, out of los and all that junk. Was thinking of putting the buggies in front of the trukks for a cover save or something.

I picked Kanz because I hadn't played them yet.

The boyz, i do feel bad for them. barebones and minimum goes against everything Orky. Mork is angry at me. I can take out 2 buggies, and find some points to give 2 of the units trukks. But unfortunately I only own 4. Perhaps if I am reducing the number of buggies, I can collapse the list into 1 CAD and just run 2 troops?

I'll have a play around with the numbers. Thanks for the feedback.

if you drop the 2 squads of boyz you can collapse it down into one CAD. The 2 squads net you enough points to upgrade a squad to 11 guys with eavy armor plus a nob with claw, bosspole, tl shoota, and a trukk to ride in with 2 points to spare I believe.

Drop a squad of meganobz fer a squad of tankbustaz fer huntin dem tankz. U get 9 guys and a trukk for 3 pts less than the nobz. Enough for a big shoota on yer one squad of boyz. Maybe try to find 10 pts for shootaz on the 1 sqyad of boyz have em objective camp.

You'll have to drop some buggies probly.. I'd recommend maybe 2 buggies, a squad of deffkoptaz, and your squad of bikes. Maybe consider givin the warboss the special warbike for that dead killy gun it has. My list alterations would give you more flaxibility and ranged killing power against vehicles. Less squads to get stuck in but one cool thing might be the warboss with special warbike, join him to the koptaz, enjoy hit and running at I4 sigh AP3 barrages followed by claw attacks on the charge. Give them buzzsaws to make this even more killy. They'll be your super killy melee squad with str 8 ap3/str 6 shots galore, enjoy crumping space marine bikes/termies/wraithanything. Run them with buggies and trukk out front, bikes in behind em with koptaz movin up. Koptaz can move up quick over everything if need be. Remember, you need at least 1 kopta alive for hit and run, your boss will get stuck in otherwise.

Thanks for the reply Nalydyn. Two votes for Warboss with Koptas, and for toughing up the boyz. Okie dokie.....

CAD - 1250

HQ
Warboss - Warbike, Klaw, Lucky Stikk
Painboy - Warbike

Troops
12x Boyz - Nob, Klaw, Pole, TL-Shoota, 'eavy armour, Trukk
12x Boyz - Nob, Klaw, Pole, Shoota, 'eavy armour, Trukk

Elites
3x Mega Nobz - Trukk
7x Tankbustas - 3x Squig Bombs, Trukk

FA
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
4x Deffkoptas - 1xbuzzsaw, TL- Rokkits

HS
2x Mek guns - KMK, 2x ammo runts
Killer Kan - Grotzooka
Killer Kan - Grotzooka

Somewhere along the way I lost my bikes and 2 mek gunz. The loss of the Traktors is not much of an issue in the games I play, no one spams fliers and there is a few TL-rokkits to try and get them down. I am sad about the bikes though. If i drop the boyz armour and the buzzsaw i could get the 5x Warbikes - Nob, Klaw back in?

No eavy armour on the boys. It ain't worth it. Buzzsaws overpriced, I'd group the buggies and split the koptas. 1 casualty still causes an Ld check.

Take the bikes.


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Squig bombs are also average as. I'd loose them and take kombi skorchas on the MANz

Bomb squiggs hit 83% of the time with tank hunters... They are well above average on a bad day.
But I'd want the bikes back even though your WB is rolling with the deffkoptas. As a second fast squad they're great.

Drop the 'eavy armor on one squad an' give em shootaz instead for more dakka. Then drop a kopta and get sum bokez for EVEN MORE DAKKA, WAAAGH! U got enough for 2 bikers and a boss nob to tank some hits with 3 points to spare. Find 2 points to give him a bosspole. Maybe switch the killsaw to a klaw on the biker nob? Then you have multiple melee threats, though not as concentrated. The bikes aren't as good as lots of FnP koptaz tho and you have alot of dakka anyway.

Thanks again for all the suggests and advice. Dropping the 4th Kopta was an easy choice, since I only own three This is what I have come up with:

CAD - 1250

HQ
Warboss - Warbike, Klaw, Lucky Stikk
Painboy - Warbike

Troops
12x Boyz - Shootas, Nob, Klaw, Pole, Trukk
12x Boyz - Shootas, Nob, Klaw, Pole, Trukk

Elites
3x Mega Nobz - 3x Kombi-Skorcha, Trukk
7x Tankbustas - 2x Squig Bombs, Trukk

FA
Warbuggy - Twin linked rokkitt
3x Deffkoptas - TL- Rokkits
5x Warbikes - Nob, Klaw, Pole

HS
2x Mek guns - KMK, 2x ammo runts
Killer Kan - Grotzooka
Killer Kan - Grotzooka

I think that would be fun to play with. And fun to paint up.

Every Ork list that does'nt have a stompa is an casual all comers list

I like that list alot. Very mobile, and pretty good unit saturation. I'd still like to see the blitzbike on the warboss since he can flat-out with the jetbikes a bit better and gets a sweet sweet AP3 gun that will mess up marines in a big way. But other than that it's pretty much as good as it's gonna get in that point level. Everything is a melee threat, and everything can deal with different targets in some form or another pretty much. No matter what your opponent chooses to shoot down, the green tide of orks will close with klaws eventually. U could drop the 2 bomb squigs, or 1 squig and a kombi scorcha and you'd have the 10 pts you need for blitzbike. Cuz the custom dakkablasta is amazing, as is 18" flatout for your str10 5 atks on the charge. Just a small suggestion. Also, would look awesome I've seen a few really badass bike conversion for biker bosses, they look sweet.

Actually I was paying the Ranged Wargear cost of a kombi-skorcha, not the cost in the Mega Nob entry. Ork fail. So I got the points for the blitzbike and to put the 3rd squig bomb back in.

Nice! Ya that's why I use army builder haha. Even the free version is just so useful for quickly calculating unit costs. Wait a second though, why do meganobz pay 5 pts less?! That's so odd. Oh well. Orks can use anything they can get lol. If you need some more points for whatever reason you could consider rokkits on the kanz. Longer range and 5 pts less. And you take more advantage of the good(by ork standards) BS of the kanz. I like kustom mega blasterz even better, since kanz usually just get blown up fast anyways, and it gives AP2. Str 6 2xblast is still solid though. Although considering the BS3 and short range, gotta make sure you aren't endangering your own guys! 8-9" is a danger zone for grotzookas, and your boyz, and the trukks they're in, will both get stomped by bad scatters.( which is another reason I prefer rokkits/blaster) Anyways man, good luck in the tourny, post how ya do here!