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Hi.
We plan to launch on September 1st. 7:00 am New York time (12:00 London time).
Express your opinion about my project before its launch.
Write about it on the project page at Kickstarter.
Please note, in small sets (less $ 100), you yourself can choose the figure at will.
Thank you.

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878482396/1470951245?token=77733870

I really like those dwarves!

But question - you mention metal or plastic... but how would you product these in plastic? Do you mean resin?

Yeah, you need to pick a material before launch, as it makes a massive difference to how much money you are going to need. Particularly since had plastic is potentially going to mean resculpting first.

I think you need some reward levels in between the $1 and the $100... people are going to miss that they can add whatever amount they want for whatever miniatures they want. They're just going to see that the first 'real' pledge level is $100, and move on.


The miniatures are nice, although this guy:

...could do with having all the hair cleaned off and new photos.


Using coins for scale is pointless, as it's completely meaningless to anyone unfamiliar with those specific coins. Use a ruler scale reference instead.


The minis are lovely, although I think the wolves need to be at least 50% larger. As is, they would be really struggling to carry those orcs...


Good luck with it!

I was going to make a post but insaniak has said everything I was going to say.

So +1 one to what he's said

Those wolves would collapse in seconds if carrying something that big

The minis remind me of the old 70s Lord of the Rings minifigs in a good way. Very old school, but well sculpted.

LOVE the dwarves.

The orcs.... those wolves are -way- too small.

I'll be keeping an eye on this one!

Size comparison with gw and mantic dorfs would be nice, gotta have those wonderful sheild dwarfs i think. A full front line of 5 different shield guys would be good.

I don't care about the wolf orcs, make them as small as you like cheif!

The Dwarfs are outstanding as a range, though hopefully a couple of additional sculpts will be added during the kickstarter to fill out the ranks a bit more.

Thank you for your feedback.
We will try to accommodate the wishes of its capabilities.

Yes, I agree with all of what Insaniak said, especially the part about rewards and pricing. As someone who is new to backing kickstarters, the easier it is to figure out what I need to pay for a reward, the easier I'll part with my money.

A number of those dwarf sculpts would be excellent for Hobbit/LOTR players, and would fit well with the current aesthetic. A size comparison of the shield/spear combo with a GW Vault Warden team could really help.

What exactly is meant by 'hard plastic' though? HIPS or PVC?

I can see a lot of these figures ending up in my KoW armies, either as additions for variety or forming whole units of some of them.

AlexVolf wrote:
Thank you for your feedback.
We will try to accommodate the wishes of its capabilities.

As has been said, pick a material, I would never pledge for a KS that didn't tell me what the models will be made of.

Frankly if you don't know, then I worry you don't know how to make models.

I'm pretty skeptical of the $200 reward level that gets you 37 miniatures, painted.

Either those paint jobs are going to be atrocious, or that price point is wildly unrealistic.

I like the models, although as said the orcs look too big for the wolves. The wolves look very nice though!

Strong wolves!

I think it is actually a clever move by them offering the figures in both hard plastic (HIBS) and lead-free pewter, if from the outset this is the case then it allows gamers to choose which they prefer. It will cut down on profit for them but widen the customer base to those who prefer one or the other. Generally I will be going for the metals.

Also noticed that on their Kickstarter preview page they have taken notice of what has been suggested and added smaller pledge levels, shown who will deliver the figures (UPS), and a few other things like showing some figures against a ruler so backers can see size. Like all these changes.

TinHat wrote:
I think it is actually a clever move by them offering the figures in both hard plastic (HIBS) and lead-free pewter, if from the outset this is the case then it allows gamers to choose which they prefer. It will cut down on profit for them but widen the customer base to those who prefer one or the other. .

The problem is that it's not as simple as choosing to cast in whichever material you choose. HIPS and pewter are very different to cast with, and due to the differences in how the moulds are constructed and the tolerances of the materials themselves, have very different requirements that have to be considered when the miniature is sculpted.

You can't just take a model sculpted for pewter production and produce it in HIPS.

Still I think it is a good move on their part. But as the figures I have seen are generally the lead-free pewter, and that is what I personally will be going for, it is academic to me. But the fact that they are willing to produce in both materials means that they will appeal to both markets if the figures are of good quality, and for me the pewter ones are.

What I think is important is for them to do during the kickstarter, if they can, is show figures in both materials.

TinHat wrote:
But the fact that they are willing to produce in both materials means that they will appeal to both markets if the figures are of good quality,...

Honestly, I think it's more likely to make potential backers think that they don't really understand the technical aspects of having models cast, and to refrain from pledging as a result.

There is no chance of those models being cast as is in HIPS. Which means that if they do go ahead with offering HIPS, the end result is going to look substantially different from the models shown in the kickstarter, and that's a guaranteed way of really annoying backers.

 insaniak wrote:

Honestly, I think it's more likely to make potential backers think that they don't really understand the technical aspects of having models cast, and to refrain from pledging as a result.

There is no chance of those models being cast as is in HIPS. Which means that if they do go ahead with offering HIPS, the end result is going to look substantially different from the models shown in the kickstarter, and that's a guaranteed way of really annoying backers.

Well if that is the case then what I said about them showing during the kickstarter models made from both materials is important. In a worst case scenario then it would allow backers to choose the lead-free pewter as their choice. And considering the figures I have seen and the comments around the community on various forums there are quite a number of people who aim to back the project. But we will find out over the next month anyway.

This Kickstarter is now live:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878482396/28-mm-miniatures-with-individual-character/comments





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Good afternoon.
I want to clarify my project. I put through an intermediary.
Since I am from Ukraine and imagine yourself on a project Kickstarter can not.
With regard to production figures.
Here in Ukraine at the moment is very high inflation, and I was very satisfied. The wage level is low. Commodity prices hardly raised.
Not somnivayus, I have a good gap on the price.
I will fulfill his promises!
The decision is yours!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878482396/28-mm-miniatures-with-individual-character

AlexVolf:
I would like to pledge, but the claims about HIPS make me cautious. I would like to know what you mean with HIPS. Is it really injection moulded polystyrene, like in model kits or games workshop sprues? Or do you mean resin?

The miniatures are nice, but this matter of not knowing how you will actually make them is "stumbling" your campaign.

What i can imagine is that the MAIN GOAL, is to make them in HIPS (high impact PS-hard plastic).

And as you have them sculpted, you also will make them in metal; this will requiere you a lot of extra work preparing the minaitures to be "Mould-able" in metal solid moulds to have the pieces injected without problems..

I think you tried to say "metal AND plastic" not "or".

I say this because personally,i have sculpted minaitures to be made in metal moulds, however, while i wait to have the funds to make them, i can produce them in metal.

Other matter is, the miniatures are priced in metal.. or plastic?

IMHO i would set a low funding goal to make them all in metal, and as high stretch goal, the posibility ofmaking them in plastic, and if that happens, backers would recive the double miniatures (because the prices would be set in metal, and since plastic is cheaper, it would make sense offering the double for the same price)

I wish you luck, and if necesary, a re-launch with a more accurate outline, the minaitures are really nice !

 Menhir Games wrote:

I think you tried to say "metal AND plastic" not "or".

They very specifically reworded it before launch to give backers a choice of either material.

Which just isn't realistic at $20000. If they actually can produce moulds for plastic at that price, and have a way of actually casting the miniatures shown so far in plastic, they're going to need to explain how. Because as is, I don't see any way that this can possibly be fulfilled as promised.

 insaniak wrote:

 Menhir Games wrote:

I think you tried to say "metal AND plastic" not "or".

They very specifically reworded it before launch to give backers a choice of either material.

Which just isn't realistic at $20000. If they actually can produce moulds for plastic at that price, and have a way of actually casting the miniatures shown so far in plastic, they're going to need to explain how. Because as is, I don't see any way that this can possibly be fulfilled as promised.

That's the crux really. We've all seen too many HIPS projects stumble and fail, and become too aware of the costs/complexities involved with the process to be fobbed off with a few vague promises about having a plan and everything working out. If he has some super cheap way of doing HIPS, we want to see evidence of it, or if he's denying that it's expensive, then we simply won't risk our money.

I personally would invest purely on the strength of the metal models, but I'm not touching this project until I see more detail from the creator on this HIPS aspect. Because I worry that if he hasn't got the HIPS aspect down, who says he has the metal one?

HIPS for all these minis would be possible if they cofund something like double what they are asking for. This would not include materials, costs for re-sculpting the minis if they have a sculptor in-house (for they are certainly not tollable the way I see them) and would require labor-free costs.

They are certainly castable in resin/metal, most of which single pieces too, thus not requiring assembly (except a very few ones). Some sweet looking models I think.

Anyway. Best of luck!!! :-)

PS. Edited for spelling mistakes.

It could easily be spun-cast plastic like Gamezone's newest plastics (which are exxxcceeellleeenttt) and Trollforged, etc

The Orcs on wolves remind me more of Hobgoblins from DnD. For me this is a good thing but I want them on foot bwaaaa.
Ok ok.. I'll be watching this. Best of luck.

It seems this kickstarter is being ended so that the creators can start a new one but concentrating solely on Pewter figures.

Link to the update is: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1878482396/28-mm-miniatures-with-individual-character/posts/1341293

Personally I hope they get the new kickstarter organised soon, rather looking forward to including some of these figures in my KoW armies.