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That perennial question, which I wouldn't be asking if I could find an answer to it that isn't from 2011.


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I'd say it depends on the squad size.

If it's a minimum 5-man squad, I'd go with deathmarks. The fact they're deepstriking makes them more likely to get benefit from their rapid fire weaponry.

Necrons also lack high str low, AP ranged weapons and while arguably synaptic desintigrators don't have high strength, they will always wound on a 4+ and sniper means they'll be AP 2 on 6's to wound.

If we're talking bigger squads, I'd opt for immortals. Big blobs of deathmarks aren't safe to deepstrike. You could put Orikan the diviner in a big blob of immortals and they'll run around the board till the end of time unless the opponent is firing a hih volume of AP3 into them.

End note: if you're facing alot of vehicles, I'd choose immortals anyway because they have acces to gauss.

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Both, use warrior bodies for immortals.

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the_scotsman wrote:
Both, use warrior bodies for immortals.


Lol. Warrior torsos are TINY by comparison!

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I've used deathmarks against my friends Eldar army. They're good for a one turn hit, but they get wiped out pretty hard after entering the field.

Immortals are a required unit for Decurion, so they're easy to add more to without having to buy a whole new unit, and they can be pretty versatile. Their main security comes from the opponent only seeing a troop choice, and never devoting much firepower to wipe them out.

That said, If you think your opponents will be deep striking a lot and you want to intercept their plans, go deathmarks.
They're really fun to run in a list, and they can pretty much cripple any unit or wreck any vehicle on entry, just don't expect them to last very long after that.
They will not take out a wraithknight. It just wont work. Just thought I'd add that.

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Myc wrote:
That perennial question, which I wouldn't be asking if I could find an answer to it that isn't from 2011.


Well, I'd want 5 Immortals to start with to give me access to the Decurion. Maybe another 5 so that I have the option of min troops in a non-Decurion list.

After that, I'd definitely recommend Deathmarks.

Immortals don't really have much purpose in this book. They're not awful or anything, but they don't really bring much, either. If you have the funds, Tomb Blades are basically Immortals +5.

Deathmarks at least fulfil a useful role, and are useful against MCs and GCs (something we might otherwise struggle with).

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 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


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 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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I really like the Deathmark model over the Immortal (maybe because of the gun, or the hea.d.. not sure lol).

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 vipoid wrote:
Myc wrote:
That perennial question, which I wouldn't be asking if I could find an answer to it that isn't from 2011.


Well, I'd want 5 Immortals to start with to give me access to the Decurion. Maybe another 5 so that I have the option of min troops in a non-Decurion list.

After that, I'd definitely recommend Deathmarks.

Immortals don't really have much purpose in this book. They're not awful or anything, but they don't really bring much, either. If you have the funds, Tomb Blades are basically Immortals +5.

Deathmarks at least fulfil a useful role, and are useful against MCs and GCs (something we might otherwise struggle with).


So you're saying I could run Deathmarks and Tomb Blades and get pretty much the same result?
   
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Sorry, the same result as what?

If you mean the same result as Deathmarks and Immortals, then yes. Probably better, as the Tomb Blades make up for being slightly fewer in number with TL weapons, and can get stuff like Ignores Cover, as well as having inherently faster movement.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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 vipoid wrote:
Sorry, the same result as what?

If you mean the same result as Deathmarks and Immortals, then yes. Probably better, as the Tomb Blades make up for being slightly fewer in number with TL weapons, and can get stuff like Ignores Cover, as well as having inherently faster movement.


As just having immortals. OR Immortals + Deathmarks.
   
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Depends on what you have already and what you personally want. I have 2 10-man units of Immortals, and 15 Deathmarks. I frequently enjoy using both.

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