GW paint changes confirmed (new Dry paints - pg 2)

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**Ghaz**

Mod Edit: New info from Warhams-77, originally from Gamestrust.de:

Warhams-77 wrote:

Via Gamestrust.de

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,games-workshop-bilder-preisliste-cover-bemal-white-dwarf-94,id47080.html

A few months ago there was a RUMOR that GW was dropping a few colors from the paint line. Here is that original rumor:

Adeptus Astartes

Via anonymous sources on Faeit 212
I've been told that some of the GW paints are going OOP. I don't know if they're just being discontinued or whether they're being replaced, I just know it's due to happen in November. The colours going are:
Ratskin flesh
Warpfiend Grey
Slaanesh Grey
Ungor Flesh
Bestigor Flesh
Dark Reaper
Thunderhawk Blue
Tyrant Skull
Mourn Mountain Snow
Lamenters Yellow
Daemonette Hide
Etherium Blue
Blackfire Earth
Lustrian Undergrowth

The trade brochure for the Best Sellers range has red dots next to the paints and when I asked what that was that's when I was told.

-Aaron

Buttery Commissar posted the following yesterday in this THREAD in Painting & Modeling:

Now two things stand out to me that lends credence to the previous rumor. First, there are only five Basing Combinations listed on the chart when there are currently six. Second and most telling IMHO, Lamenters Yellow is definitely missing from the Glazes on the chart. If anyone else has their White Dwarf yet, can you confirm or deny the other changes?

**Herzlos**

That does look like a useful chart. But yeah, it looks like they've dropped some surplus items; better stock up!

**alphaecho**

If the poster is the same as the one on the bulkhead in GW Southampton, Etherium Blue is still on it.

I was looking as I was planning on revamping the way I paint my UMs should I pick up Betrayal at Calth.

**Ghaz**

As noted above, it is different than the one released with White Dwarf Weekly #66 (May 2015), its just too small to tell how different.

**Kavish**

Not tyrant skull! I neeed it.

**Buttery Commissar**

There are 31 base colours in that chart, and 33 on the one from April:

(click to embiggen and compare if it takes your fancy)

Note: Scanned chart is missing texture paints as I did it for triad reference.

EDIT: original has 3 uses of Abaddon Black, which if you dropped the duplicates makes 31. May well be that they just chopped those to fit the new metallics in.

**Panic**

yeah,
Still no baal red.

Why no red wash?

Panic...

**Matt.Kingsley**

Carroburg Crimson is a red wash, isn't it?

**Zanderchief**

I'll take a few colours lost for dropper bottles please GW :-)

**angelofvengeance**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Carroburg Crimson is a red wash, isn't it?

Yes.

**Bottle**

I bought some Thunderhawk Blue today, just in case.

**Panic**

Yeah,

angelofvengeance wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Carroburg Crimson is a red wash, isn't it?

Yes.

Looks pink?

Panic...

**namiel**

Zanderchief wrote:
I'll take a few colours lost for dropper bottles please GW :-)

Dropper bottles conserve paint, gw wants your paint to go bad so you have to buy more. Hence the crappy jars

**angelofvengeance**

Panic wrote:
Yeah,
angelofvengeance wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Carroburg Crimson is a red wash, isn't it?

Yes.

Looks pink?

Panic...

It's red- I use it frequently.

**mdauben**

This is one of the reasons why I stopped using GW paints. Why can't they just leave the line alone? People just get used to using certain paints and colors and then GW changes. Makes it very difficult to maintian a consistent paint scheme across a whole army that might take years to collect and paint.

**Vermis**

Ungor and bestigor? Two of their four decent lighter skintones? That's not much good.

namiel wrote:

Dropper bottles conserve paint, gw wants your paint to go bad so you have to buy more. Hence the crappy jars

Dropper bottles clog and seperate paint. It doesn't conserve so well when a big splat is deposited on the palette, or when you have to crack it open and give it a stir anyway.

**Nevelon**

Vermis wrote:
Ungor and bestigor? Two of their four decent lighter skintones? That's not much good.

namiel wrote:

Dropper bottles conserve paint, gw wants your paint to go bad so you have to buy more. Hence the crappy jars

Dropper bottles clog and seperate paint. It doesn't conserve so well when a big splat is deposited on the palette, or when you have to crack it open and give it a stir anyway.

If GW just wanted paint to go bad, they never would have switched out the pots 4? versions ago (Brazen Brass in this pic) Unless the lid/threads were surgically cleaned after every use, the whole pot would dry out.

Not a fan of droppers myself, but the shifting formulas got old decades ago.

**Ghaz**

Buttery Commissar wrote:EDIT: original has 3 uses of Abaddon Black, which if you dropped the duplicates makes 31. May well be that they just chopped those to fit the new metallics in.

There are three bundles that use Abaddon Black as a base, two that use Castellan Green and two that use XV-88. Regardless, the end results are quite different when used with the layer paints. Add to that, you don't even have to stick with the bundles when you're painting.

Vermis wrote:Dropper bottles clog and seperate paint. It doesn't conserve so well when a big splat is deposited on the palette, or when you have to crack it open and give it a stir anyway.

Not all dropper bottles are made equal and maintenance also plays a big part. Good droppers that are well maintained will beat out pots every time, in my opinion.

**RoninXiC**

Why would paint in a dropper bottle seperate any other way than in any other kind of bottle?

The kind of mechanism to get the paint out of the bottle is 100% irrelevant to the seperation of paint.

A pin/needle and 2 seconds is all you need to remove paint from the dropper. it's as easy as it gets.

Droppers are in any way supperior to GW pots, especially if you airbrsh (which I do).

**Buttery Commissar**

Checked in GW today, and if it's coming, the staff haven't heard. Though that could be pretty standard.

**CragHack**

Meh, I wasn't planning on using these anyways

**Ghaz**

Buttery Commissar wrote:
Checked in GW today, and if it's coming, the staff haven't heard. Though that could be pretty standard.

Its pretty much par for the course that GW staff are the last to know.

**Kaiserbudheim**

BRING BACK BLOOD RED DAMN YOU GW!!! Wild Rider Red has failed as a substitute!

**Vermis**

Nevelon: I still have a few of those pots. A couple even have wet paint in them!

Ghaz wrote:
Not all dropper bottles are made equal

True, I have dropper bottles from SHC Web that have a much better nozzle design than the vallejo bottles that people keep raving about. But who bothers with the former?

RoninXiC wrote:Why would paint in a dropper bottle seperate any other way than in any other kind of bottle?

The kind of mechanism to get the paint out of the bottle is 100% irrelevant to the seperation of paint.

Tell that to my bottle of golden yellow, or green-brown... or the bottle of cork brown that burst in my face and across half the room because paint decided to stick, seperate and congeal up in that tiny narrow nozzle.

Good droppers that are well maintained

A pin/needle and 2 seconds is all you need to remove paint from the dropper.

Not so perfect then.

**Ghaz**

I have no problem with the Vallejo droppers. Its the Reaper ones that I've always had problems with.

And it doesn't take any longer to keep your dropper bottles in good shape than it does to clean the rims on your paint pots to ensure a good seal.

**Buttery Commissar**

Ghaz wrote:
Buttery Commissar wrote:
Checked in GW today, and if it's coming, the staff haven't heard. Though that could be pretty standard.

Its pretty much par for the course that GW staff are the last to know.

Cheerfully wouldn't believe me would be a better way of putting it.

**Ghaz**

I guess its a part of their training when they're hired to not believe that their customers usually know more than the company tells their employees

**Zanderchief**

Edit

*In relation to any change they may be doing it would be nice for them to fix the bellow issue i see*

Besides I still have issues with some of their paints (in particular whites and yellows) giving a chalky / powdery effect. Since I am in China my options are sometimes limited. Any suggestions on alternatives guys?

**AegisGrimm**

Count me in for being tired of paint changes......

**Ghaz**

I'm okay with changes as long as 'changes' equals additions to the paint line and not sending colors OOP.